Kate McCann releasing a book...

[sophxx]

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[purpledahlia]

soph have you read all the links that have been posted in this thread?

I came into the thread fully believing that she was alive and in some basement somewhere after being abducted, but ive spent around 24hours reading now, and i have changed my mind. There IS evidence out there, i dont know why the authorities cant put it all together, or do anything about it. I dont understand the politics of it, but there seems to be a lot involved. Theres definately something wrong with this situation

Ive never heard of any child abduction cases that theres been NO sign of abduction? forced entry or foot prints, fingerprints, damage inside, etc....?

ETA, talking abotu abductions similar to this where someones gone into a house and taken a child, im not talking about abductions that have been to kids who werent inside

 

[purpledahlia]

yes heat makes smells intensify, but in no way does dirty nappies or meat, smell like death. Theres lots of info's on the cadaver dogs in this thread, dogs dont lie?

 

[AppleBlossom]

Theres more evidence of a cover up than an abduction though

which is easily done as there is no evidence of abduction lol

exactly! was for sophxx

the chances of it matching 15/19 and not being maddie must be tiny

but we would never know that unless we were experts did they ever test the twins to see how much of a match to the dna they were?

but that wont explain the dog sniffing out the death smell....

but what aboiut all the other cases of children going missing and there being no sign of abduction or a struggle ect does that mean all ther parents must be involded to?

as for the smell of death its oviously could be mixed up with other smells as the mccans are still free i really dont think a dog trained to smell something is enough eveidence to prove anything and oviously others must not either else the case would be open

No it doesn't but no other cases have been so confused as this one. As in there is absolutely not signs of an abduction but plenty of signs that there was some foul play. Also, remember Karen Matthews? She played the victim quite well, everyone sympathised with her, held fundraisers for Shannon, spent hours and hours searching for her. The whole time, Shannon was hidden in her Uncle's apartment. I'm not saying this shows that the McCann's must be guilty, it just shows that sometimes people will do anything to get publicity, as sick as it is. And if the McCann's thought that they could gain something from the tragic death of their daughter then they would do all they could to get it. It's not a nice thing to imagine a person doing, especially in the circumstances, but there is no telling what some peopl will do and I don't think that can be ruled out completely. Just my opinion.


But, like I already said, they're dogs. They have no desire to cause a conspiracy. They are highly trained and as we all know, dogs have a sense of smell that is totally above anything us human's have, hence why they are used in such practices. They had never got a case wrong before, they had solved every one they had been given. If that isn't enough proof, along with the fact that it only picked up this scent in the McCann's apartment and car, despite being taken to all of the apartments of the Tapas 9 and let loose in the car park and not shown a specific car, then I really don't know what is?

 

[taperjeangirl]

It's the cavader dogs that threw my whole view on this and made me dig deeper.
They wouldn't lie about what they smelt!

They are soley trained fir that one smell, nothing else will smell the same

 

[sophxx]

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[AppleBlossom]

It's the cavader dogs that threw my whole view on this and made me dig deeper.
They wouldn't lie about what they smelt!

They are soley trained fir that one smell, nothing else will smell the same

Agree. Dogs don't have an agenda. they're just dogs

 

[Tasha]

Theres more evidence of a cover up than an abduction though

which is easily done as there is no evidence of abduction lol

exactly! was for sophxx

the chances of it matching 15/19 and not being maddie must be tiny

but we would never know that unless we were experts did they ever test the twins to see how much of a match to the dna they were?

but that wont explain the dog sniffing out the death smell....

but what aboiut all the other cases of children going missing and there being no sign of abduction or a struggle ect does that mean all ther parents must be involded to?


as for the smell of death its oviously could be mixed up with other smells as the mccans are still free i really dont think a dog trained to smell something is enough eveidence to prove anything and oviously others must not either else the case would be open

if they really though it was them why did they left four other familys stay in that room before they sealed it of and let fornesics in

im sorry girls but you can say what you want but i just dont buy it if its not there in black and white then im not intrested as i dont belive theres enough evidence and i dont think ill change my mind until a bodies found and its proved they were involded

They have said it would be open if the Mccann's would cooperate

The police have admitted mistakes were made, they didnt see them as suspects until too late.

And I am not able to use v, h and c on tis site for some reason so taking me ages to reply

 

[sophxx]

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[Tasha]

yeh ive read them and my own research but i dont buy it and i never will unless its proved ive even watched the documnetarys on youtube that were on in portugal

like i say each to there own i belive what i want to from reading the things ive read i cant be bothered to discuss it any more cos its just going round in circles and im not going to change my mind

theres been a few cases where children have been took with no signs of entry ect there always on the crime channels and if you google you should find some

some times there on missing the programe during the day

But te exit tat was supposedly used was too small for an adult to get out of, witout some sort of disturbance

Sorry about te spellings but I really cant be arsed to add lots of h

 

[Midnight_Fairy]

I didnt really think it till this thread now I am certain that sooner or later the truth WILL come out!

These were not just any old dogs, they were trusted dogs with excellent track record!

 

[sophxx]

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[AppleBlossom]

I doubt that in the serious case of a missing child they would plant evidence around. The Portugese police sacked the leading officer when he started to believe the McCann's were involved with the disappearence. I doubt they would have spent all those man hours just to try and pin it on them. Plus, they were working closely with British Police who were in the country at the time also and they are so potective over the case that they refuse to discuss any possibility that there may have been no abduction at all. But anyway, you're entitled to your opinion as we all are to ours. We may be right, we may be wrong. Who knows. I personally think that I can say with certainty that I'm on the right lines. But none of us can be 100% certain. If the McCann's would co-operate then the case could be re-opened and maybe we could know once and for all.

 

[Tasha]

I didnt really think it till this thread now I am certain that sooner or later the truth WILL come out!

These were not just any old dogs, they were trusted dogs with excellent track record!

Did you see the wages

No they wouldnt Soph but they ant go any further without them answering questions

 

[LoraLoo]

how do they know that? its eas to say those things but for example my bros friend is 6ft 5 he climbed out my mums tiny window with his big rucksack full of camping stuff starpped to his front and we didnt know? no one can say that a adult cant climb out of any where cos no one knows who took her

how do we know they didnt use a older child? you dont and i dont thats the thing

and if a pheodfile ring did take her then they would have ready access to younger children

But he didnt have a child in his arms, and he would have left DNA behind.

 

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[AppleBlossom]

The McCann's are very well off. They were in contact with Gordon Brown shortly after Madeleine's disappearence, their official spokesperson was a close contact of ex PM Tony Blair and Rupert Murdoch, one of the most influential men in the British Media who heads The Sun and Sky News amongst other things. Not only that but they hired FOUR top celebrated lawyers. When you've got that kind of back up and not quite enough evidence to know that if they were taken to court they would be tried and charged for definite, then there isn't much else the police can do. I'm not 100% certain of the politics of the whole thing but there is, for some unknown reason, some sort of cover up going on. Why would you bother hiring not one, but four lawyers, if you were innocent of something?

 

[LoraLoo]

how do they know that? its eas to say those things but for example my bros friend is 6ft 5 he climbed out my mums tiny window with his big rucksack full of camping stuff starpped to his front and we didnt know? no one can say that a adult cant climb out of any where cos no one knows who took her

how do we know they didnt use a older child? you dont and i dont thats the thing

and if a pheodfile ring did take her then they would have ready access to younger children

But he didnt have a child in his arms, and he would have left DNA behind.

hes just as capable as any one else of cleaning ect these big child snatch ing rings if thats who did take her are practised you see the documentarys on telly and they have it down to a tea

ot but some one stole a van of my drive yesterday we watched it happen out the window in the space of 20 seconds he picked the lock hot wored it and drive off the guys whos van it was followed in my car while the police blocked the road as we rang 999 and the guy jumped out of the van and ran he had no time to clean it yet there were no finger prints no dna on the straps ect it was completly clean?? good know show but career criminals know what there doing

I disagree, not in a resort where he may be caught with a child who was probably struggling, in such a short time frame, how could they clean away evidence and hold a 4 year old. There would be SOMETHING