long cycles support thread :) the yelping vaginas club! (closed group)

[cmwilson]

Beautiful little bean Louise!

 

[Rachel789]

Nice scan pic Louise! Glad to hear everything is looking good

 

[raventtc]

Raven - why do you say time is ticking? Is it your age or just general fed-up ness? (I don't think that's a word but hey)

yeah my age gets to me every now and again, and i do have 2 daughters from a previous marriage 12 (soon to be 13)& 11 so haveing a big big age gape with them makes me think hurry hurry too!! i will be 32 this year too...

and good for you about not finding out the sex!! i didn't with either of mine and it drove my family nuts!! but i liked the idea of surprises too, and picking 2 names and neutral colors are just as cute!!

Raven - I hope you're not giving up yet! I just know you're close to your bfp! How long have you been TTC?

i am not giving up just yet...i have been charting and such since sep/oct2011 but hubby and i we not protecting for a lot longer

 

[raventtc]

nice pictures ladies of your beans!! so exciting

well not much going on with me, af -- has left -- thank goodness!! hubby and i will get some alone time around when i should o .. if everything stays on the same track as it has been, so that will be a huge + for us!!

 

[Diddums]

Just picked up my prescription for provera so will take my first one tonight. Then I'll try soy 3-7 at 160mg days 3-5 and 200mg 6-7 and hope I ovulate xxx

 

[foquita]

bethany i can't remember if i said this but i'm so sorry for your loss

Nat! You're back! I missed you! That is great that you might have O'd!! That's so exciting! And natural cycle too!! My sister just started taking soy, days 3-7 160mg days 3-5 and 200mg days 6 and 7. I'm excited to see if it works!! To answer your questions for now I'm only doing one combo cycle but if I get nice follies this cycle then I'd probably do it again. We are definitely doing an IUI if we get a follie.

I'm just sitting here waiting for AF. I was proud of myself today. You know how yesterday I was talking about how I caught that my doc had prescribed me too many drugs for a combo cycle and that dropped my cost significantly? Well it was still higher than what my doc had said so I looked into it and the lower cost was related to enrolling in the "Heart Program" so I enrolled and it cut my cost in half! SCORE! Yay for me being proactive!

good luck to your sister caroline, you need to keep us updated on her progress does she have irregular/annovulatory cycles too? fingers crossed you get plenty of follies and you can save loads of money! love your proactivity, i think you deserve to treat yourself with the money you saved

Caroline - sounds great! What's the heart program? How do you enroll?

I'm not finding out the sex... It's one of life's few surprises these days. I want to experience that first moment of finding out like nothing else right now!

I just went to the doc this morning and got the results of blood test #2. Good news and bad news:

My HCG is now 2089! It was 519 the first time - so that is the good news.

The bad news is that my progesterone is only 11.8 (down from 15.3 last time). The doctor says there is conflicted research on the number and what it indicates, but he likes to see it above 20, and since mine has gone down, there is the risk of miscarriage. He wants me to start the progesterone pills today. They are inserted vaginally or in the rectum three times a day.

Does anyone have experience with this? Which way should I insert them? I think Caroline took them once...?

I am pretty worried about the bean now...

so much admiration for you lil with the keeping the sex a secret! i would love to but i don't know if i could resist

for the low progesterone, they've found it though and are doing the best they can to prevent miscarriage. i'll be keeping everything crossed for you will you get your progesterone tested again in a few days time? will they keep testing to keep an eye on it?

Well ladies, i'm back. My appointment was good and bad. The Dr was very nice but also very honest. She said its most probably my recent weight gain that caused my annovulation and once i lose some weight my periods should start up again. I most definitely agree with her as before i went on BCP i had regular 31 day cycles and i weighed a lot less. The game plan is to go back in 6 months after i have lost 4 stone (bringing my bmi to 35). I have an appointment booked for 1st feb 2012. She said if after losing the weight i still don't ovulate or aren't pregnant she will prescribe more tests and clomid. I think the appointment was the kick up the arse i needed as I'm suddenly very serious about losing the weight....hence the fitnesspal ticker! I will be following slimming world and adding in exercise when i can. We will buy an exercise bike so we can use it in the evenings when we watch tv.

In the mean time i have a prescription of provera (10 tablets at 10mg). She didn't really want to give them to me, but she said psychologically she could see that I needed a period so gave them to me, but said i couldn't get anymore. Interestingly, she said thats it's not advisable to get pregnant on a provera induced cycle, but that makes no sense as most clomid cycles are started after a course of provera, especially if woman aren't ovulating. Any idea why she would say that? Any hows i'm going to take the provera on sunday (can't get it before then) and then try soy for one cycle. Chances are it won't make me ovulate but i have to try something while i lose weight. Any idea on dosing? I don't want to start off too low as chances are I will only get one shot at this until my body sorts itself out.

How are you ladies doing?
Lou, what did you say to the EPU? Are you paying for your scan? Very excited for you!!!! Make sure you post pics xxxxxx

Sorry for the long post lol, just wanted to get it all down xxx

they say if you lose 10% of your body weight it increases fertility so if you're losing 23k you'll be mega fertile you'll be pregnant in no time katya, especially with your hubby's super sperm i'm confident of it sorry the appointment wasn't what you expected though soy is amazing, i can't praise it enough! don't be disheartened if you don't ovulate the first cycle, just up the dose and try again it didn't work on my first cycle but then worked on cycle 2, 3 and 4 i took 80, 120, 160, 160, 200 CD3-7 and it didn't work so from then on i took 200mg CD2-6 and it worked a charm!

Sorry it took a while to get on here but the clinic was behind, so i got home and had my dinner and shower first

We have one beanie baby with a good strong heartbeat, measuring exactly as says in my ticker
Picture isnt great quality.

https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh163/klassykitty81/scan2.png

lovely! you must have been so excited to see it, did your DH go with you?

 

[foquita]

GUESS WHO just had a 28 day cycle?!?

meeeeeeeeee!

so i guess i did ovulate on CD18, had a 10 day LP and got AF today. i'm really hoping it's not a fluke, i'm going to temp next cycle and figure out a pattern of BD for low sperm count and i'm going to buy soft cups! i am so pleased that my healthy eating and stupid amount of vitamins are finally paying off! i don't know if i would have seen the effects earlier if i hadn't taken soy, this was my first natural cycle since i changed my diet at the beginning of march. i'm so over the moon because i was really frustrated about changing so much and not seeing any effects, but then i did see effects so i was worried for nothing i've weight since march too so that might have helped as well, i wasn't intending on losing weight - it just happened! i'll have to try and keep it off. i went from 11st 1lb (155lb) to 10st 4lb (144lb) i think, i hardly ever weigh myself though

 

[mrsc81]

Thats great having a sort cycle Nat!

Yes my dh went with me, when we were sat in the waiting room he said, this feels more real now
We told his mum this afternoon, we went to her house and she was over the moon, she cried! I was so surprised at her reaction, she said she will be walking around with a smile on her face, and gave us both a big hug, it was sooo sweet.

 

[Diddums]

Yay Nat!!!!! Loving the 28 day cycle!!!!

Thanks for the info. I think I might go for 200mg from the out. I only have one shot at soy because my dr won't prescribe anymore provera for me! Xxx

 

[foquita]

i would defo go for the 200mg then katya it worked a treat for me every time!

aw louise that's so sweet! have you told your family yet?

 

[mrsc81]

Yes i told my mum on the phone, she told my dad, and i told my sister by txt wish i had told them in person now though , my mums reaction wasnt like dh mum, but my mum did know we were trying.

 

[foquita]

yeah so she would probably have been expecting it i don't think i would be able to wait to see them in person either

 

[Rachel789]

Nat-Congrats on the natural 28 day cycle, that is absolutely amazing!! I think 10 day LP is the bare minimum they like to see, are you taking B6? I hear that can work wonders on extending the LP.

Caroline-I see AF showed Onto Femara and injectables, I hope this is it for you

Nothing happening here, just on boring old CD 8 and awaiting my saline sono on Tuesday morning and hoping to get my bloodwork results then. Then once AF shows I will have to do the HSG next cycle. The dr. doesnt want me to do meds that cycle he mentioned something about increased risk of miscarraige the same cycle as the HSG but as much as I trust him I don't agree with that. I googled it and could not find anything about that. I am going to push for meds the same cycle and ask him for statistics as to how much higher miscarraige rates are on HSG cycles. I am seriously considering if he won't give me anything taking either soy or the lowest dose of clomid since I have an Rx still for it, actually I have two scripts for clomid. I would only take the lowest dose since it is screwing up my lining. Do any of you know if soy does anything to the lining, maybe I would be better off trying out the soy...

 

[foquita]

i don't know anything about soy and the lining, i was actually wondering myself the other week. maybe you could find something with some googling? to be honest i don't think it'll thin the lining because it's not 'chemical' but i could be totally wrong?

what's the difference between saline sono and HSG?

yeah i'm taking B6 along with all the other B vitamins, my LP has varied between 10 and 12 days...not really sure why it changes? i haven't had spotting the day before AF since i started taking the B complex though which i'm going to tell myself is a good thing it's proper red blood, i love to see that because i didn't used to have that!

 

[Rachel789]

I think the fact that you don't spot during your LP is a great sign that your progesterone is at a good level. I wouldnt worry then, I read that if it is at least 10 days you can get pregnant as long as the levels arent low.

The dr. explained to me why clomid can thin the lining in some people. It is because it remains in your system for a long time after taking it. It is still strong in your system for 7 days after your last pill but can linger for up to 72 days. So what happens is it tricks your body into thinking there isnt enough estrogen which sends out high levels of FSH which in turns tells your ovaries to produce follies. Because clomid remains in your system it continues to block estrogen which is needed for good cm and to build your lining. I think up to 30% of women having lining and cm issues due to clomid. Now with Femara (letrozole) it leaves your system in less than 2 days of your last pill so your body has plenty of time to build the lining and get good cm.

Now when it comes to soy I don't know if it lingers like clomid, I am going to try to research it more.

The saline sono is where they place saline in your uterus to blow it up and then the dr. peforms a vaginal scan. Because the saline blows it up and makes it easier to see they can tell if there are any abnormalities in the uterus like fibroids or polyps. In the HSG they can't see that as well but they can see if the tubes are open. I wish I could have both done in the same cycle. I am so impatient

 

[foquita]

i'm impatient too rachel though to be honest i'm becoming more patient as time goes on weirdly enough it sounds like they are being really thorough though which can only be a good thing! so while you're unfortunately having to be patient right now, it might lead to you getting your bfp quicker when you start the femara

soya in general probably thins the lining then, they don't recommend it when you're TTC because it makes your body produce more estrogen so it probably has the same effect! if you ate no soya products and took soy isoflavones i don't know if it would stay in your system or not. i cut soya out of my diet (so hard being practically a vegan and not being able to eat soya!) at the beginning of may so i don't know if that has also contributed to my normal length cycle?

i am having awful, awful cramps

 

[Rachel789]

Sorry you are having bad cramps My AF this 3rd cycle of clomid was almost nothing, my lightest yet. Barely any cramps and I had a light flow for two days then it was pretty much gone. But I expected that due to how thin my lining measured a couple days before I o'ed. I guess I just want to try something next cycle because I know I won't O on my own and I really don't want to waste an HSG cycle because you are supposed to be really fertile after it. Now if the dr. can show me some statistics that say miscarraiges are increased by 10% or more on an HSG cycle I won't do anything but if it is not a big difference I will self medicate. Obviously the ideal would be that he will let me take femara and do the IUI the same cycle. I am going to be persistent. I am driving my dr. and DH crazy because I won't listen to the dr

 

[foquita]

you could try soy instead? or maybe the HSG will make you O? helena_lynn had an HSG and ovulated for the second time ever, first ever natural O that cycle

i'm well looking forward to the HSG!

 

[mrsc81]

I actually started having soya milk in my b/fast about 2 months before i got my bfp

 

[cmwilson]

Woohoo on the 28 day cycle Nat! I hope this is a trend!

Rachel - Good luck on Tuesday! I'm sure it will be fine.

AF started today! I'll call my doctor tomorrow for my plan. I really hope this works and I get a follie or two.