long cycles support thread :) the yelping vaginas club! (closed group)

[Diddums]

Wooooo Nat!!!!!!! So so happy for you! I will be following your progress

AF has gone now and will start opk in the next few days and try to BD every other day

Been on another 10milea bike ride today! I'm loving the cycling

Lots of good news lately. Good luck to all the lovely ladies in the TWW xxx

 

[cmwilson]

Rachel - I think they like to see over ten at 7 dpo but I think there is a reason why they like to test on 7 dpo because the progesterone is at its highest. It is possible your progesterone will increase. Did they say anything about giving you progesterone?

 

[cmwilson]

Nat - I just realized I never answered your question about how I'm feeling in the TWW. I don't know, I just honestly can't envision a time when I will ever be pregnant. I just can't see it happening. I guess if you really look at it, I've only O'd twice so I guess you could look at it like this is only my second month trying so my chances are probably like 30%? I guess we'll see...

 

[seabean]

I am going to have to read back and catch up, although I have been stalking still! I'm just in the boring waiting-to-O phase

Rachel - what DPO was your prog taken? Did they report the units or just say 7? Your temps look high enough to make me think your prog is ok

Nat - glad you are positive! I just need to catch up on the posts now to see why

When are the TWW-ers testing?!?!?

 

[jbk]

I'm testing next Friday @10dpo

 

[Rachel789]

Dee-i had it done first thing in the morning on 5 dpo. They told me my level was 7.4 and that was all. I spoke to the nurse she called to say my results indicate I o'ed so I asked what the level was and that was that.

Caroline-i think because I wasn't on meds or monitored this cycle and the Dr doesn't know exact dpo so they likely wouldnt bother offering me supplements. I assume if I was monitored I would have been. Next time I see him I will make sure to ask about the level and what his thoughts are.

I wonder if by 7 dpo there is a chance it would reach 10 or more. I really hope so...

 

[foquita]

thanks Katya I'm in awe of your cycling, I think I need to take a leaf out of your book! you're doing amazing

I can't either caroline I did used to be able to but now I'm just going through the motions I wish I could switch my feelings off!

have you googled rach? maybe someone on another forum has asked a similar question and got an answer?

well girls my temp is low this morning, my OPK was whiter than white yesterday and I have no fertile cm so I think it's safe to say that I haven't yet and am not going to be ovulating in the next few days, I am really disappointed actually it must have just been a fluke last cycle, or maybe I didn't actually ovulate but for some reason AF came after 28 days, who knows it doesn't matter anyway because I have the provera and letrozole

should have known it was too good to be true though! I'm going to start taking provera today, does it matter what time I take it at? and how long after I finish will I get my period?

 

[Diddums]

Nat I took my provera in the morning with breakfast and for 10 days. Got AF two days after stopping. The day after stopping I had some some cramps and on the second day some spotting in the morning and then at lunch time she appeared! Xxx

 

[foquita]

thanks katya, I'll have mine with breakfast too then I'm only CD19, do you think it's too early for me to take it? I don't really want to wait much longer I'm too excited

 

[Diddums]

It's up to you Nat. If you think there is a chance you will ovulate in the next week you could wait. But I'm impatient and would probably start taking it today!

Lou - did you notice weight loss slowed a bit when you started exercising? I've been cycling an hour everyday for the last week and my weight loss has slowed. Guess it muscle growth and my muscles retaining more water?

 

[foquita]

I don't think I will I've only ovulated on soy before, then last cycle I thought I did but I wasn't temping so it's not confirmed but I believe I did, on CD18, it must have been a fluke though because I have no signs of ovulating now and no reason to believe it'll happen at all this cycle. I was positive I would ovulate on CD18 so I'll take the provera today so I can get cracking on with the femara

 

[rmsh1]

Nat, big on having a productive appointment for once, I am so happy they are going to monitor you and really get this BFP ball rolling for you. Sorry I have been absent from your journal lately, I have had a lot on, and just no time

I still try to stalk all of you whenever I come on

I am sending lots of and good thoughts

 

[mrsc81]

Katya - i cant remember to be honest I dont think i was weighing myself alot in the beginning, but when i was properly keeping track i was losing a steady 2lbs a week, only a couple of occasions i lost 3lbs.
You may have just hit a plateau after the initial weightloss and now your body needs to kick it up a gear again. I would suggest not doing the same exercise all the time but mix it up, your body responds better to this when you want to lose weight, doing the same exercise all the time is fine for maintaining. I get newsletters from virgin active, and this weeks said that swimming uses more muscles than a gym workout, maybe give swimming a go?

 

[seabean]

Nat, I liked taking Provera at night because it made me a little tired and upset stmoach. And I think you are actually not supposed to take it with meals, but I could be wrong. Be sure to take it around the same time though, whatever time you do choose. I did the 5 day higher dose and was actually on norethindrone, not technically Provera, so maybe it is slightly different. I got AF within 3 days every time I took it, which I think was 3 times. Sorry this cycle isn't promising at the moment. But it sounds like a great plan and I haven't seen you this chipper in a while, so that's great!! Also, my last two natural cycles were a few days off for ovulation day. Not to give you second thoughts on sticking this cycle out, but I just wanted to bring it up just in case!

 

[foquita]

thank you bex I'm so chuffed!

thank you for the advice dee! I am really, ridiculously tired today and I took my first provera this morning so maybe that's why! so i should take it in the mornings now? if I have to take it again next cycle I'll definitely take it at night did you have any other side effects?

I didn't want to wait any longer, I was too impatient I should have waited a few days but I want to get cracking on

 

[seabean]

Dee-i had it done first thing in the morning on 5 dpo. They told me my level was 7.4 and that was all. I spoke to the nurse she called to say my results indicate I o'ed so I asked what the level was and that was that.

Caroline-i think because I wasn't on meds or monitored this cycle and the Dr doesn't know exact dpo so they likely wouldnt bother offering me supplements. I assume if I was monitored I would have been. Next time I see him I will make sure to ask about the level and what his thoughts are.

I wonder if by 7 dpo there is a chance it would reach 10 or more. I really hope so...

Here is the progesterone chart that I refer to. At 5DPO (in the AM), the "average" levels for progesterone is about 6.4-16, in what I am sure are the units your bloods were measured in. 7.4 is totally in the range for average, so don't worry! Plus, your temps are up and stable. I have seen charts on FF with totally erratic BBT and spotting, and I think those are the cases with low progesterone that I think can be really problematic for implantation and sustaining a pregnancy. If you are still concerned, is there any way to have your levels checked again to make sure they are higher now?

 

[Rachel789]

Nat-it's possible you still had a kind of fluke ovulation last cycle because it was your first cycle off soy I can't say for sure but just a guess. That is why I am thinking I o'ed on cd 18 the first cycle after clomid. I haven't changed anything else and I doubt my body all of the sudden just figured it out. That's why I am still considering taking soy with my hsg cycle because I don't trust my body to O again on it's own (at least o by a decent time in my cycle) I think if you don't feel like you will o soon that starting the provera is just fine. I started mine one time on CD 16 after my gyno did a scan and saw no follies, she told me to go ahead and start it so I don't see the harm in it. Good luck, I can't wait to follow your first femara journey!

Dee-I think my RE wrote me a prescription for the same kind of progesterone you were on but he prescribed it for 10 days. I think the 10 day course is tortrous and I always end up starting AF by day 8-10 of the pills anyway so I wonder if I could just decide on my own to take it 5 days if I ever need to use the prescription. How many mgs did you take daily?

I am still concerned about my progesterone levels. I tried to research it online but the problem is the levels quoted are for 7 dpo so I don't know what is normal for 5 dpo I have been considering running out and buy progesterone cream. What do you girls think? It that not a good idea? Is it too late anyway since I am 8 dpo? Ugh I just hate this worrying. I just wanted to feel like I actually had a chance to get pregnant for once but I am thinking I may not...I always thought if I didn't have spotting during the TWW and my LP was long enough that my progesterone was good. I wish I didn't even ask what the level was or waited until 7 dpo to get the test.

 

[Rachel789]

I just posted that previous post before I read what you put up Dee. Thank you sooo much for this!!! I feel so much better

 

[Rachel789]

Does anyone know why I would have ewcm on 8 dpo? I woke up this morning to a huge glob of ewcm, very clear and stetchy, honestly better quality that I see around O time go figure. Then I saw creamyish cm that stretched as well. Sorry for TMI but I usually don't have this much cm around this time, its crazy. I would think ewcm isnt a good thing because that indicates estrogen right?

 

[seabean]

I just posted that previous post before I read what you put up Dee. Thank you sooo much for this!!! I feel so much better

Oh GOOD!!! I seriously think you are fine - don't worry!!!

As for the progesterone, I did 10mg for 5 days, so half of the time and double the dose. Once I called b/c online it seemed there were more women doing the 5mg/10 day route, and the nurse practitioner said it doesn't make a difference at all, either way your cycle will come when you stop. So if you just want it to be over with, then I would just do the 5 days! The only difference I can think of is that side effects might be worse on the 10mg, but that can vary. I can't even remember if they were bad for me, so it must not have been that bad. I also took it at night, like I said to Nat, which probably helped. Also, the 10d course is more normal to a natural LP, so some people prefer that, if they are using it to keep regular cycles. But if you are just using it once to get your period and start treatment, then I don't think it should matter too much. There are tons of debates about 5mg/10d vs. 10mg/5d on BB and other sites if you want to check them out