MAY we all be blessed with baby! May 2013 and beyond (BFFs Seeking BFPs)

[mummy2o]

Tangerine: I am so sorry that has happened to you. Its horrible

Chulie: Thats good that he found a way around it.

AFM FF has said I've ovulated so currently in my 2WW. I did O late so can you move my testing date to the 8th. I don't hold much hope as we didn't dtd on the day but twice the day before and once the day afterwards so hopefully we managed to catch it.

 

[Hopeful2014]

@newbie2013 You're an important part of our support group as well! Thanks for being with us.

@mummy2o I'm so glad that FF confirmed ovulation for you. I updated your date. The day before is a very important day and since you dtd twice that day I think you should be covered. Remember it's all about having the sperm there waiting. I think you have a very good chance! Good luck!

 

[Hopeful2014]

Ladies, I've been doing some reading and research on chemical pregnancies. I'm not finished, but I wanted to share a little of what I've found so far. I do think that some of it makes me feel a bit better at this point. It is somewhat encouraging. There are also two interesting links at the bottom about a study that found some women who had recurrent miscarriages seemed to be 'super-fertile'. This has no connection to one cp happening, but it is very interesting.

-"This means that the embryo implanted and started to grow, but then stopped developing very early, so the only sign of pregnancy is the hCG level – the chemical."

-"If the patient has had a chemical pregnancy there is a high likelihood that she will achieve pregnancy eventually."

-"The majority of chemical pregnancies occur because the embryo is genetically abnormal."

-"It means the embryo progressed in its development, hatched out of its shell, attached to the endometrial lining and the lining grew and enclosed the embryo." (this seemed promising to me)

-"Her body can do what it needs to do, and it is just a matter of getting a perfect embryo into her womb for her to be successful."

-"In most of these cases, it is a spontaneous abnormality that occurred at the time of embryo division and not something that the woman carries."

-"Pregnancy loss is before the fetal cardiac activity could begin."

-"Miscarriage is interpreted as a normal period."

-Some say to wait a month and some say not to wait because you are supposed to be more fertile afterwards. Doctors sometimes want you to wait for dating purposes, but also for emotional/grief purposes. However, one reason you are advised to wait is to avoid infection. They suggest waiting at least until after you stop bleeding before you bd.


The study below is interesting. It's not just about chemical losses specifically. It's about women with recurrent losses, so it's not the same as one loss or losses at different times throughout the years but it's interesting.

This describes a very interesting study of healthy embryos and poor-quality embryos and "Super-fertility" may explain why some women have multiple miscarriages, according to a team of doctors.


Another interesting article that is about "Recurrent miscarriage can now be seen not as failure to carry a pregnancy, but perhaps as failure to prevent one, in other words super-fertility, but with distressing consequences,"

 

[chulie]

Thanks so much for your support, it means a lot. I'll put more info in spoiler tags in case anyone might be upset by it:

Spoiler

My doctor decided to reschedule my appointment with him on Friday and sent me to the local hospital to make sure I was ok since I was vomiting and had heavy cramps/bleeding. I ended up getting an ultrasound and blood tests that unfortunately confirmed an early pregnancy loss at 4 wks +4. I'm home resting with some pain meds and already feeling better; they said it might take some time to complete naturally and for my hormones to return to normal but they don't expect any problems.

The doctor at the hospital said we can try again this month if we feel up to it, but take it easy and no BD until my bleeding and cramps have stopped completely. She said it's fantastic that we were able to conceive so quickly even if it ended in a loss this time. Even though I do have a higher m/c risk she still thinks we have a very good chance to have a healthy pregnancy in the future. OH feels good about trying again ASAP too so we'll probably be in this month, but just try as well as we can to keep the stress level down for both of us.

I am going to chart my BBT because I have no idea when O might be happening this cycle. I guess we just have to wait and see.

I'm glad you feel up to trying again. I can't imagine the emotion toll it's taken on you and you dh....make sure you rest lots and when your ready...I'm sure your body will be too! I'm glad you see the silver lining in being able to get pregnant if that was a concern for you...but I'm sure it doesn't make things easier in the moment. We're all here rooting for you!!!!! Xoxoxox

 

[KatyW]

Ladies, I've been doing some reading and research on chemical pregnancies. I'm not finished, but I wanted to share a little of what I've found so far. I do think that some of it makes me feel a bit better at this point. It is somewhat encouraging. There are also two interesting links at the bottom about a study that found some women who had recurrent miscarriages seemed to be 'super-fertile'. This has no connection to one cp happening, but it is very interesting.

-"This means that the embryo implanted and started to grow, but then stopped developing very early, so the only sign of pregnancy is the hCG level – the chemical."

-"If the patient has had a chemical pregnancy there is a high likelihood that she will achieve pregnancy eventually."

-"The majority of chemical pregnancies occur because the embryo is genetically abnormal."

-"It means the embryo progressed in its development, hatched out of its shell, attached to the endometrial lining and the lining grew and enclosed the embryo." (this seemed promising to me)

-"Her body can do what it needs to do, and it is just a matter of getting a perfect embryo into her womb for her to be successful."

-"In most of these cases, it is a spontaneous abnormality that occurred at the time of embryo division and not something that the woman carries."

-"Pregnancy loss is before the fetal cardiac activity could begin."

-"Miscarriage is interpreted as a normal period."

-Some say to wait a month and some say not to wait because you are supposed to be more fertile afterwards. Doctors sometimes want you to wait for dating purposes, but also for emotional/grief purposes. However, one reason you are advised to wait is to avoid infection. They suggest waiting at least until after you stop bleeding before you bd.


The study below is interesting. It's not just about chemical losses specifically. It's about women with recurrent losses, so it's not the same as one loss or losses at different times throughout the years but it's interesting.

This describes a very interesting study of healthy embryos and poor-quality embryos and "Super-fertility" may explain why some women have multiple miscarriages, according to a team of doctors.


Another interesting article that is about "Recurrent miscarriage can now be seen not as failure to carry a pregnancy, but perhaps as failure to prevent one, in other words super-fertility, but with distressing consequences,"

This really backs up what my doctor told me - embryo quality/abnormalities are the reason, usually. Thanks for posting

 

[chulie]

Hmmmm.....@hopeful now THAT is super interesting!! You always find the most interesting reads! I love it!

 

[Hopeful2014]

JUNE , HERE WE COME!!!

Ladies, Remember
1. That it's not over until AF comes
2. That many ladies get false negatives
3. That implantation happens 6-12 dpo
4. That we are here for you no matter what


June is here and we are ready for some more BFPs! Some of us got a BFP in May and we are starting to see BFPs in June! Some of us are continuing on our journey into June and July. I look forward to hearing more about the pregnancies already taking form and the upcoming pregnancies soon to be announced. We started this group in April-all with the same goal-wanting a BFP. Since then we have expanded on that goal. I want us to have a thread where we all know each other and can help each other along. I want to see a BFP blinking by each of our names. I want it to be a place we can look back on in time (while cradling baby!) and remember our struggle and and share our happiness. We will keep adding to the list from May and on until we can see everyone have that beautiful beside her name. Good luck and fingers crossed!

TESTERS:
June 25:
FrancoRie710
J_Lynn

 

[ClandestineTX]

@Hopeful2014: great research! Now, I'm trying to tell myself that it's actually a good thing I haven't had a BFP of any sort in my 8 cycles of TTC... hopefully, my body is just super-selective and won't let just any embryo implant. FX it's not so selective that it won't let one implant at all! [Seriously is now giving me flashbacks to giving dating advice in college ]

 

[zilla]

can I join?

My son is almost 7 months old & we're TTC as I want them close together in age.
We were NTNP from March 1st, but I still haven't had a natural AF after giving birth, even though I bottle fed.

I had tests: LH, FSH, TSH, Prolactin & Progesterone which all came back normal.
Was put on Provera to induce AF (that was at the end of May, I had a withdrawal AF at the beginning of June), have been charting but not temping - can't temp as I'm still up a lot in the night with LO.

I got cross hairs & EWCM & + OPK last week so just seeing if that was an actual ovulation or just my body plays tricks with me.

If I get a BFP then that would be brilliant - if I just get AF then I'm still happy as it means my body is settling down now!

I'm currently 5dpo (going from FF) so just going to wait and see now

x x x

 

[Lala8]

Hi guys, I'm having a bit of a low day. I am on cycle day 46 and have taken two hpt both saying bfn and now a lump is appearing in my right breast which is usually a sign that my af is on it's way.

I'm so sad but I am going to the doctors on Friday with my husband and I would like her to take some blood tests to test whether I have been ovulating. I'm hoping for the best.

It's all about the positive thoughts and believing that it will happen for me.

It is hard to be positive though when you are feeling so upset. I'm sure you all understand.

 

[Lala8]

Thanks so much for your support, it means a lot. I'll put more info in spoiler tags in case anyone might be upset by it:

Spoiler

My doctor decided to reschedule my appointment with him on Friday and sent me to the local hospital to make sure I was ok since I was vomiting and had heavy cramps/bleeding. I ended up getting an ultrasound and blood tests that unfortunately confirmed an early pregnancy loss at 4 wks +4. I'm home resting with some pain meds and already feeling better; they said it might take some time to complete naturally and for my hormones to return to normal but they don't expect any problems.

The doctor at the hospital said we can try again this month if we feel up to it, but take it easy and no BD until my bleeding and cramps have stopped completely. She said it's fantastic that we were able to conceive so quickly even if it ended in a loss this time. Even though I do have a higher m/c risk she still thinks we have a very good chance to have a healthy pregnancy in the future. OH feels good about trying again ASAP too so we'll probably be in this month, but just try as well as we can to keep the stress level down for both of us.

I am going to chart my BBT because I have no idea when O might be happening this cycle. I guess we just have to wait and see.

Stay positive doll, everything happens for a reason and I hope you are feeling better soon.

 

[momwithbabies]

So sorry, Lala8. I'm glad you're going in to the doctor to get everything checked out. The best remedy for AF is a hot bath, a mindless TV show, and maybe a glass of wine or two. Those have been the things that pull me through AF these past 3 years.

 

[ClandestineTX]

@Lala8: I wish we didn't understand, but we do. Good to get checked out by the doctor - cycles that long definitely mean something is awry. Good news though is everything that causes irregular/ long cycles are all things that are treatable! Keep us posted and good luck to you!

 

[Lala8]

@momwithbabies thank you for your support and kind words. You are so right, I will do just that when my af appears

@ClandestineTX thank you also to you for your support. I will definitely keep you updated after my doctors appointment.

 

[River54]

Just to let you know, af did arrive on the weekend. Will update my date when I get a confirmed O.

 

[chulie]

Hi guys, I'm having a bit of a low day. I am on cycle day 46 and have taken two hpt both saying bfn and now a lump is appearing in my right breast which is usually a sign that my af is on it's way.

I'm so sad but I am going to the doctors on Friday with my husband and I would like her to take some blood tests to test whether I have been ovulating. I'm hoping for the best.

It's all about the positive thoughts and believing that it will happen for me.

It is hard to be positive though when you are feeling so upset. I'm sure you all understand.

Oh hey listen Lala....we all get it for sure!!!! I mean the goal is ALWAYS positivity but that doesn't mean every now and then we aren't allowed to rest at less desirable place like....feeling down and being negative....so stop...have a rest here....and then get back up and keep heading towords feeling positive!!!

 

[Lala8]

Oh hey listen Lala....we all get it for sure!!!! I mean the goal is ALWAYS positivity but that doesn't mean every now and then we aren't allowed to rest at less desirable place like....feeling down and being negative....so stop...have a rest here....and then get back up and keep heading towords feeling positive!!!

Thank you Chulie for the pep talk, it was much needed

 

[Tangerine]

@Hopeful2014 - Thank you, I too have found that reading about early loss is very therapeutic because it helps to not feel so alone. I think that both times, for me, the hardest thing to deal with has been this lonely, empty feeling that I don't think anyone else understands unless they've experienced it.

Yesterday the hospital was having a very busy day so I had to wait quite a while in the waiting room for an empty bed. The waiting room volunteer just had a new granddaughter so she was showing around newborn pictures, talking about her daughter's pregnancy and birth, other grandchildren etc. etc. All right in front of me while I sat there with my own mum. I just tried to close my eyes and not listen but I couldn't stop the tears from coming. The triage nurse noticed what was happening (bless her!), apologized and quickly found us an empty exam room to wait in instead. There was no way for the volunteer to know what I was going through and I felt so alone because everyone else was so happy for her while I was so sad.

It helped a lot having my mum there for support - she has had 8 pregnancies but only 2 surviving children, my sister and I. I called her in the morning and as soon as she got off the phone she took the rest of the day out of work to be there with me. She said she was very sad that I had to experience this too, unfortunately it happens far too often and to far too many women, as we know here. She and the doctor both said that I will feel extra emotional and teary for a few days, and a lot of it is due to pregnancy hormones that still need to come down.

I found this study that also mentions chromosomal abnormalities, and that autoimmune diseases may actually cause these problems in an embryo:

https://www.emaxhealth.com/4214/miscarriages-may-be-caused-autoimmune-disease

It's also somewhat reassuring to know that maybe if there was a problem with this pregnancy, whether it was caused by my autoimmune disease or not, I feel like my body might have done the right thing in detecting it and letting it go so early. Everything I've read also reiterates that as painful and disappointing as it is, having a chemical pregnancy (or two!) means that future healthy pregnancies (and babies!) are very likely for all of us.

@Lala8 I totally agree with chulie! We all want to be positive most of the time but let's face it - TTC can be a HARD and BUMPY road. I think most of us are here because we all have our own unique struggles, and we know those negative feelings all too well. I am very happy that you're seeing your doctor about your long cycles, like Clandestine said it's very likely that your doctor will be able to offer some help with them!

 

[Mrs A]

Hey gals, well I got my blood results back. My cd21 progesterone was 63.2 what does/ can this mean?

 

[Dannixo]

Hey gals, well I got my blood results back. My cd21 progesterone was 63.2 what does/ can this mean?

The number itself can not tell you that your pregnant. Doctors like to see 10 on a non medicated cycle and over 15-20 on a medicated cycle. It just shows you indeed ovulated now with that said my highest number on all 6 of my clomid cycles was 28 and I never got pregnant so 63 is a very strong high number. Could be twins or could just mean you had more eggs at the time of ovulating resulting in the higher number. Good luck!