PAL after Recurrent Losses - come join us!

[daviess3]

Jenny good luck sweetie, ur going to b fine, an u puppy an Florida pls get pics ladies Jenny u will have to take one on ur phone as they won't give u a pic! Xxx

Puppy wow u really have been prodded an poked! Bless u! I had extremely had white blood in my blood once after a kidney infection. They asked me have I recently had a death in ur family or a bad car accident! I was like we no!! Y? They said the results showing extremely high levels nothing like that had happened to me an it battled doctors! 2 weeks levels stayed elevated, then they just went down!
Would it be anything to do with nk cells? X

 

[filipenko32]

Might be! White blood cells fight infections like nk cells!

 

[daviess3]

Just thought it maybe worth mentioning to doctors? X

 

[puppycat]

If it is nk cells would it be too late? I'm 10 weeks now. I wish i had the fertility appt before bfp. Been sick this morning too

 

[petitpas]

Puppy, after my pulmonary embolism I ended up in hospital with breathing problems and chest pain. It turned out I had some kind of infection and the next day I realised they were right as I came down with a horrid cold. Sometimes we are just more affected by nasty germs than other times. It doesn't necessarily mean your body is attacking your baby.
There have been some studies showing that the level of nkcells in your blood (not the same test as white blood cells!) don't have a bearing on the level of nkcells in your womb as they are a different type of cell. So ignore the threat of nkcells right now and ask your epu for a scan to set your mind at ease after this scare.
Fingers crossed that all will be fine just like after your last scare fxfxfxfxfx

 

[daviess3]

No I don't think so puppy I reckon u would maybe need to start some treatment, ur having pg symptoms so don't stress about that, I didn't mean to stress u out!
I don't no enough about them to comment, an I probably shouldn't of said it, it's just i had that problem years ago an if I didn't get any answers I was going to have the nk cells test for that reason! One of the ladies on here must b able to help u more though they must no more about the scenario than me, or mayb ask on rec mis thread coz think there was a few more over there?? X

I bet ur still waiting Jenny queues there are a nightmare!! I learnt an would book 845 appointments so I could b first! Lol xx

 

[puppycat]

I guess so petit. I have an upset tummy today, just been to loo so maybe it was that?

 

[bumpyplease]

hi ladies

just popping on quickly to wish those ladies that have scans this week the best of luck! hopeful congrats on being 12 weeks now, love love love those pics of your bubbas so cute!!

puppy, hope you are ok sweetie, just read back and saw you were in hospital yesterday. hope you are taking it easy.

fili sending you a big squeeze, hope you are ok chick xx

hi to everyone else, you are all doing so well, i hate that i cant join you yet, but wishing you all tons of luck xx

 

[petitpas]

Puppy, I have regular blood checks due to the fact that I have been on blood thinners almost continually for three years now. My white blood cells were normal even when I had my nk cell blood test and it came back high so I don't think it is an indicator. It is only when you are on steroids that the white blood cells become low.

I have heard of nk cells possibly causing later losses (it seems to be very rare, tbh) but the treatment advice is to start steroids at ovulation or bfp. Once you reach 10 weeks the placenta is a pretty good barrier between mother and baby and my doc was positive that all would be well from then on.

I hope that makes sense. I'm no specialist so this is just the information I pieced together from internet research.

 

[filipenko32]

Oh no puppy you don't need to worry about nk cells!

 

[daviess3]

Puppy looks like everyone knows better than me, I didn't say to scare u I just wondered if u could ask the question to doc sorry if that made u worry!!

Jenny where's ur update u ok xxx

 

[heart tree]

Morning chicks. I was hoping to wake up to some news this morning. Hope we get some great scan news today. Puppy are you getting scanned? I hope so. You could use the reassurance right about now.

I got a little better sleep but still woke up at 4am! Managed to fall back asleep at 5am and got up at 7. I'm not a big fan of this 4am waking business. I used my Doppler first thing when I got up and couldn't find the hb. Took a shower and tried again with an empty bladder and there it was. Phew! Music to my ears. This is the longest I've had to go between scans. This Doppler is keeping me sane!

 

[hopeful23456]

Mornin!
Croy- you r in Seattle right? The news screen in the elevator at work said you r to get a foot of snow today! We don't even have snow here in mn twin cities which is sooo rare! I love it.

Puppy and Florida- good luck today!

 

[hopeful23456]

Jenny- good luck today! Hope you don't have to wait too long.

I just got breakfast at the cafeteria at work and I'm there quite a bit getting food so I told the cook I was preg and his wife is too, then the girl next to me said she just found out she was too, like within the past couple of days. Her first appt isn't until mid feb and she's in her 30s . Didn't dare tell her I've had 4 mc, would freak her out!
That was the first time I've told people I don't know!

 

[petitpas]

Hopeful, I find it easier to tell people I don't know. Whenever I get food for example. As I'm so fussy it is embarrassing.

Sorry Davies, I hope I wasn't contradicting you! I'm not saying any of us do or don't have an nk cell issue (although it would seem that I do ). I just wanted to reassure that for the ladies on steroids I've read about, reaching 10 weeks is an important milestone and a good prediction of success. At that point it does seem like there is little point to start looking to treat.
Nkcells are a really interesting and hotly contested subject. Not everyone believes in them, the testing process or the treatment. It is always worth finding out your own doctor's opinion even if you disagree with it.

 

[hopeful23456]

heart - i am not getting enough sleep either. i try and sleep at midnight (after watching my recorded shows) then up around 1:30 to pee, maybe up at 3:00 to pee, but for sure up at 5am to pee and then can't sleep until around 7 or 7:30. should be to work by 8 or 8:30 but been getting in around 9. so around 5 hours of sleep/night total if that?

pip - i bought $11 worth of candy at the gas station not too long ago and i was the only one there and couldn't stop laughing as it looked so funny. i think she thought i was super high or something. lol

i didn't want to tell random people i was preg net.

 

[filipenko32]

I had serious insomnia from all my pregnancies and I get 'hangovers' from them too after the pregnancies have ended so my sleep patterns take about a month to right themselves. I think it's preparing you for those sleepless nights when they're born!

 

[filipenko32]

Just done a clear blue digi and it is 2-3 . That means my hormone level is less than 2000 which means I ov in about 2 weeks so I'm hoping to do an Andrea! So technically right now I'm PUPO pregnant until proven otherwise! So no point me leaving this thread also I like talking to you girls!

 

[hopeful23456]

fili - don't leave this thread! we love having you here!

 

[heart tree]

Great news Fili!!! You are such an optimist. I need to drink some Fili juice.

Hopeful I've been able to stay in bed and not get up to pee but I'm not sure how much longer that's going to last. I always have such a hard time falling asleep again once I wake up. It's a curse I've always had. I wish I could take a sleeping pill! I need a full night of rest. If I clear this NT scan and get the ok from my doctor I think I'm going to start doing some prenatal yoga. I think part of my problem is my lack of exercise. When I was exercising regularly I slept like a champ.