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Fili honestly as someone who has flown for 12 years next month i have seen many people fly with all sorts of historys, As u can imagine in my industry its primarlarly women so there is quite a few ladies with rec mc history an they have all flown gone on holiday some have even continued working flying!!
I have heard of some people recommending not flying but i asked my consultant an she said it does you good normally tp get away!!
Like i said lots of water an food snacks xx
 
Fili, as Davies said, lots of people fly when pregnant. I was just surprised that the Prof was so insistent with me when normally she says that flying isn't considered dangerous. I suppose it is because I lost my second baby on my second trip to the States that month despite being on heparin and aspirin.
Davies, isn't it policy to ground flight staff when they are known to be pregnant? Have you told work yet? It certainly seems to be a very controversial subject with no evidence to back either side and to be fair, I can't remember whether the no-fly order was for just first tri or afterwards as well. I know that ladies who bleed are generally told not to fly in first tri, either.

I think that not only is there a fear that miscarriage can be caused by flying, but if you are at risk you need to consider what you would do if you started miscarrying on a flight? Or on holiday?

Again, there is no proof whatsoever that flying harms pregnancies. The only thing flying is known to do is cause clots and APS also causes clots. Being on heparin and aspirin can counteract this so it may not be a problem at all for you. Why don't you contact St Mary's and ask for advice specifically on flying? You don't need to say when exactly the flight is for...

As for trying before your test... :blush: well, I was at St Mary's and they asked us not to ttc while they came up with a plan. But I'd already had all my tests so ahem... we decided not to prevent and fell pregnant right away. Oops. Sadly, the baby didn't make it (early loss, funny shaped sac). And to be honest, since then nothing was added to my treatment by St Mary's. I was already on heparin and aspirin and it was my local consultant who then put me on progesterone supplements.
So you had best not ask me for advice! I'm a very bad example!
In general, if you are still waiting for tests, which might determine a different treatment plan, then I would say wait. If you will be on the same treatment regardless of what the results are then... :shrug:
If you wanted to be totally and utterly careful then you could put ttc-ing on hold until both St Mary's are happy and you are back from holiday. But we all know how difficult that would be! :haha:

Fili, whatever you decide, I'm sure it will be the right decision for you. Just don't worry once you have made it. You are in good hands now that you have a medical team to support you and we are not here to judge you! :hugs:


Heart, happy 12 weeks! This really IS a significant milestone! :yipee:
I am having my hair cut tomorrow morning - for the first time since September! And I have a bob... :haha: My instinct is to cut my hair short again but after giving it some thought I am going to attempt to grow it so that I can pull it back easily once ducky is born. Bye bye lovely bob :cry:
 
Yes pip ur right as soon as u say ur of they ground u which is y I'm going into a shop!! Boring!! No u don't go back after first tri u just stay in shop!! Which is fine saves driving to gatwick!!
I personally would travel?!! But ur right I think we r all diff with regards to flying etc in ur situation I can understand them telling you to not fly, u should prob ask bout ur individual case! But I think hol is a fab time to chill relax an make babies fili?? Xx
 
Congrats on all the lovely scan pictures, so happy for you ladies!

For those of you with losses and fear of losses please try to hang in there. We have all been there and I promise there is light at the end of the tunnel.

Heart, you asked if any of us had upcoming scans so here you go: next Thurs. January 26 I have 2 scans, my regular one at the perinatologist is at 10 am followed by a specialized heart scan. Apparently in my state women after 35 get those fetal heart scans just as a precaution. So I get two that day lol.
 
Lol, Davies, I bet that shop has a fast turnaround on staff - always pregnant! :rofl: and though not as exciting as trips to Thailand, I can imagine that the atmosphere there is quite friendly and relaxed. Do you have to wear a maternity uniform? :haha:

Looking back, I now don't think that flying was the cause of my miscarriage. I lost at least one healthy one after that and didn't fly during that pregnancy at all!
I flew the day after I got a bfp with ducky and so far it hasn't had an effect. But, I do know that flying is a risk factor for clotting. I have to inject heparin for any flight over 4 hours even when I am not pregnant as I've already had a DVT. So DH and I have decided no more flights for me until ducky is here. We are off to France next week and taking the car. The added advantage is that we have a ton of boy-baby handmedowns we can fill the car up with :D

Heart, you asked about my low-lying placenta. At the moment, it should not cause a problem. A quick google suggests that 90% of placentas will rise out of the way by 32 weeks. If mine doesn't I will be at higher risk of bleeding and might need a c-section. But it would be a planned c-section so I'm not too bothered. As long as ducky arrives safely and I hopefully get to keep my uterus, then I am happy.
 
Holy porn star boobs, Batman!

I have been lucky so far that the girls have not felt very sensitive, but this morning hubby snuggled and grazed a boob and it really hurt. I didn't think much of it, and dozed back to sleep. I finally got up and started to get dressed when I passed the mirror in the bathroom I thought there was a couple of strange bald men standing in front of me! Hello girls.

They are pretty much laughing at my bra as it tries to keep them in line.

Oh dear.

So ladies who have had babies before. How soon do you buy a bigger bra, and how many do you have to get throughout pregnancy? Do I just get a maternity bra now or am I dreaming that they are going to stay this size?

Please help a suddenly large boobed woman out! Anyone else having this dilemma?
 
Croy it's so funny! I was only saying to my mum today that mine are ATLEAST a cup size bigger!! I definitely need to invest in new bras but I just want to see if they grown any more! They're humongous!!
 
Congrats on all the lovely scans they are so cool xxx

Sorry not been on much today I have ear and headache I'm going to go to the out of hours doctor when hubby gets home xx

Amanda can you update me I have a scan at epau at my local hospital on Monday at 12 x
 
I bought non-underwired bras from Mother care online when pregnant with LAura. There's no real cut off point, just whenever you feel it necessary to buy a bigger bra. I just 'fill out' don't really grow enough to go bigger x
 
Mon and Jenny, I added your scans. Now our list is looking good! I love scan days for everyone!

Croy that's so funny! My boobs hurt a lot at the beginning, but don't hurt that much anymore. They've grown, but not enough to buy new bras yet. They just look big in bras. My husband loves it! I like the idea of non underwire bras. I might go get one.

Pip I'm glad you aren't stressing about the placenta. There is still plenty of time for it to move. And HAPPY 20 WEEKS!!! Talk about a milestone! WOW!
 
Happy 20 weeks Pip!! Is time passing quickly, or is it dragging?

I can't believe I am 12 weeks already but I also feel like I have been pregnant forever!
 
Time is ticking along nicely, thank you :kiss:
It really doesn't feel so long ago that I was in first tri...

My ladies are mahoosive, too. Well, they weren't small but now they are giant. And heavy, too. I bought a new bra (Elle McPherson 34FF!) about ten days ago and it is the only one I can wear so I am handwashing and drying on the radiator overnight... will I need an even bigger one when my milk comes in?
 
Pip they don't have huge turn around at the shop I'm going to coz I live 60miles from the airport but the shops nearer do, an lots if girls go in the crew room which is a no e atmosphere as u see everyone an get the gossip! It's bit boring in shop as u don't really book holidays, h more talk make tea!! Can b mind numbing! I like talking to people about hols but that's it!! No wonder they advised u not to fly with dvt etc that's prob alters your risk factor I would say!! an congrats on 20weeks hun x

Croy you made me laugh haha!! X
 
Pip they don't have huge turn around at the shop I'm going to coz I live 60miles from the airport but the shops nearer do, an lots if girls go in the crew room which is a no e atmosphere as u see everyone an get the gossip! It's bit boring in shop as u don't really book holidays, h more talk make tea!! Can b mind numbing! I like talking to people about hols but that's it!! No wonder they advised u not to fly with dvt etc that's prob alters your risk factor I would say!! an congrats on 20weeks hun x

Croy you made me laugh haha!! X
 
Pip, when your milk comes in a couple of hammocks should do nicely. I went from a b to an f. I'd get yourself just one nursing bra (if you are planning on nursing) maybe a cup size bigger and then get measured again once you are out and about after ducky is here and the milk has settled down a bit. On day 3 they are concrete and like boulders but it settles down after a couple of days.
 
Thanks for the info!

:rofl: at the hammocks :rofl:

Oh, for anyone interested, I've popped today's bump pic into the first post of my journal.
 
Happy 20wks pip an cool bump pic x you are so lucky you a very neat x boys are good to their mums girls take your beauty lol x

Croydon I am normally a 34E/F an already went up a size wearing mat bras I got last time I've also got back extenders on standby x def can't wear my underwired now too sore x I have 3 mat bras an 2mat sleep bras then will invest in more if grow even more x
 
FF pip? holy moly

I think i'm around a D right now up from a C. I won't wear a bra as they are tight and when I take it off my boobs hurt for a day.

i'm still wearing my loose sports bras.

just got a call for the NT bloodwork results and they are great! she said like a 1 in 130 risk for just age I think before bloodwork? and it went to a 1:700 risk after bloodwork. so to me, that's zero risk. wasn't worried about it but it's nice to know. she said all the numbers looked good.

it's strange as some girls on other forums say their risk is like 1 in 10,000 even when they are the same age or older than me so I think different labs just have diff ways they calculate it or report it?
that just seems like such a high number/really low risk for older gals...
 

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