parents who dont vaccinate your babies??

[Randianne]

Right, so you make an appointment with the doctor and pay the bill and your insurance company reimburses you? Or you don't pay but you do some paperwork at the doctor's office and then they either follow up with the insurance company or the government if you don't have insurance? Or if you don't have insurance, do you go to an A&E or a free clinic and wait or something?

Here in NZ you just make your appointment and the nurse administers the shots. At my clinic, because I'm registered, there's no cost, no paperwork, but I think if you're not registered there's a low cost per visit (maybe $10-30 per visit, and you would need about six visits for the full schedule).

You give them your insurance information up front and the doctor's office verifies it. Then you pay the copay (what insurance won't cover) at the time of service. It gets confusing though, because insurance companies have complex rules regarding what they will or won't cover. We're lucky that our insurance covers 100% of her vaccine costs so no copay at all. Just the $300 a month we pay for our insurance plan.

If you don't have insurance, you have it done at the health department for $25. That's only my area though. It varies greatly by city and state. Some families qualify for free healthcare for their kids, but there are a lot of people who make too much money for government help but not enough to buy insurance. It can get insanely expensive.

ETA: Doctors can refuse to treat you if you don't have insurance. The exceptions are emergencies and women giving birth.

 

[zombiedaisy]

I know around here they offer free clinic for the uninsured to get vaccines, checkups and even dental work. Our schools also offer free vaccine and dental clinics throughout the year. All children around here can get free insurance through the state if the parents can't supply it for whatever reason.

 

[xSin]

Wow this thread is going off on a tangent and a half.

I am doing a delayed vaccination schedule -- while I both understand and appreciate the benefits of vaccinations, I also strongly feel that bombarding an infant's immune system with SO many different things in such a short amount of time, with all the freakin' awful additives and crap that go into the vaccinations is NOT the route that I personally want to take. I would prefer to help my baby's immune system develop naturally and then do some vaccinations (not all) later on.

I don't personally intend on doing any vaccinations until after my LO is a year old.

this may get ugly and be locked................

my LO is fully vaccinated on the regular schedule. i could never live with myself if she got ill or nearly died from a rare disease, because i was selfish and thought i knew better than doctors....

I don't make my decisions out of "selfish" motives, but after several medical history courses do NOT believe that doctors know "everything" because once society falls total prey to that we end up with situations like Buck vs. Bell (US Supreme Court Decision 1927)

"We have seen more than once that the public welfare may call upon the best citizens for their lives. It would be strange if it could not call upon those who already sap the strength of the State for these lesser sacrifices, often not felt to be such by those concerned, to prevent our being swamped with incompetence. It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind. The principle that sustains compulsory vaccination is broad enough to cover cutting the Fallopian tubes."

 

[Scottish mum]

I think we need to remember babies have been getting vaccinated for years over 30 years anyway!! If it was bad it wouldn't be done. It's allot of crap that doctors only dish out because they get more money!!!! Most give valid points about not vaccinating there children but allot of it sounds crazy new age nonsense "IMO" lol

 

[EarthMama]

I choose not to vaccinate because my LO has a family history of strange reactions to vaccines. People on his daddy's side have nearly died and were in critical condition due to vaccines they were given. I already was on the fence about vaxxing my baby but upon hearing this my decision was final not to go through with it, not with that family history.

 

[Shezza84uk]

some illnesses are most infectious during the incubation phase though, such as chicken pox, children are infectious for 2 weeks before the blisters break out, this was how my son's whole class come down with pox over xmas when he was in nursery. So you can not be sure your child isn't ill even if they seem well with certain viruses xx

Agree with this, my baby just got over Chicken pox I have no idea where he caught it because DD had it at 3.. I was not able to stay in with him until he got vaccinated because I am a single mum and I take DD to school so as you can imagine he would have caught anything else going had it been going around at that time.

I respect everyone's decision but from a personal point of view I am more confident now knowing my children are vaccinated I was constantly on edge and felt guilty that I am potentially leaving him vulnerable because I would unknowingly go around children who are not vaccinated and there was a huge risk of him catching whooping cough or worst.. Now ill just have to hope he wont end up catching mumps or measles before he is 1..

 

[Feff]

What if scientists developed a vaccine that could prevent your children from getting cancer (or any other big, terminal illness)? But it was still filled with the 'toxins' like the other vaccinations we are talking about? Would you stand by your word of not injecting unnecessary ingredients into your child or would you let them have it? Sorry if I offend anyone I'm just curious over topics like this

 

[pinklightbulb]

If it actually promised (guaranteed) they would never get cancer I would

Current vaccinations don't promise protection. They aren't a guarantee.

 

[omfgski]

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[My_First]

I guess what some people have strong views about ( or I know I do), is because most of the 'evidence' against vaccinations is from discredited, quack Drs(and I use the term loosely),or scare mongering websites, and I feel it's important to have unscientific evidence challenged, because someone may come on here and believe it, without giving it a thought. It's a bit like if I said car seats are not necessary, but lying down in the back will be just as safe and provided a link that demonstrated that causation. I think it should be challenged and pulled apart as its down right dangerous, and someone may read and believe it.

I edit to say yes I realise it's different as car seats are a legal requirement, but I was trying to make a case in point.

 

[Feff]

If it actually promised (guaranteed) they would never get cancer I would

Current vaccinations don't promise protection. They aren't a guarantee.

What if there was a 75% chance that they would never get it? Would you let them have it then? x

 

[pinklightbulb]

Well, if it was guaranteed, sure but I don't know how they would come up with a concrete percentage like that.

 

[Scottish mum]

My_first you've hit it on the head! That's why I read some of the posts which are anti vaccine and really worry about people who will think it's genuine and NOT vaccinate there children. Maybe this thread should go to the debate forum as there are allot of mothers here who are very passionate about vaccines and we can't help say what we feel!! It wouldn't be a discussion otherwise!!

 

[pinklightbulb]

It seems a debate topic to me too

 

[Feff]

Pinklightbulb, me neither just curious

 

[pinklightbulb]

Pinklightbulb, me neither just curious

I think vaccinations are a chance thing really. Your kid is either gonna be lucky enough to get the most out of it, or they won't. I prefer not to take the chance at all as I don't like the idea of vaccinating my sons

 

[shorman]

One thing to consider is that the shot initially causes psycho-emotional damage. Giving this shot to a baby overwhelms their sensory nervous system and gives your baby much unneeded distress. Many studies have already concluded that not only does a baby feel pain but they will store and remember it in a different way adults do, and this will affect them in the future. This is an unnecessary infliction of pain to your baby.

This is pretty much straight from that Dr Mercola article, right?

My baby had his Vitamin K shot. He did not even notice. Literally did not make a sound. This sort of thing is just unnecessary scaremongering. A lot more traumatising things happen to a baby in the 24 hours surrounding its birth. Getting born, for example.[/QUOTE

Oh my goodness I agree total scaremongering all my children ha the vitamin k when they were born and I did my research they didn't even notice!

 

[omfgski]

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[ukgirl23]

my thread was never meant to be a debate. I asked why people choose not to vaccinate out of curiosity. People were asked not to judge or rant but they have and now I'm annoyed that SOME people have turned my thread into a forum to put others down or question their motives!!

everyone is entitled to cast an oppinion but be mature and respectful after all we are all different and have reasons I simply asked what those reasons were..

no one should be affraid of judgement so be nice or dont post.

 

[ukgirl23]

feff they kind of already do have a cancer vaccine for girls against cervical cancer, cancer is a big killer in my family so my daughter will be having the vaccine if she wants, she'll be a teenager then so she can decide.

When children are vaccinated in school all together do you have to request not to have the vaccine given to your child if you are anti-vax? Do you get bad responses from other parents or do your children get negative feedback from children who do get the vaccine?