*** Positive Mental Attitude TTC - Anyone joining us? ***

[babybemine]

Hi ladies, all good, sorry it's taken so long. App was 10:30 not done until 11:45, dashed home, lunch then back to work. Then we've been at my mums for dinner.

All good I'm measuring 12w4d and h have a due date -yey 7th June. It would not stop wriggling again-sonographer struggled for ages to take measurements! All starting to seem real now and getting exciting. Thank you do much!!!

Oh I think I may have thrush! Never ever had it but itchy/uncomfortable down there-gonna go see doc tom. All be worth it in the end though!

What day are you on now Smiler?babybemine? Ov approaching? x x

about 9dpo with lots of gas. Long loud flatulance, and very bloated.

 

[Smiler82]

Hopeful that's amazing so pleased! Was getting worried!! So exciting to have a due date but not the thrush!!

AFM, cd 14 no sign of O....

 

[lilesMom]

hopeful thats great honey woo hoo. hurray for good news xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

babybemine, gas was my first sign , that and crampy feeling. but last time i never had the crampy feeling, some people say u get the crampy feeling more if u have had d and c like me. i still burb like a big man if i eat certain things.
i stopped eating onions for that reason i eat them yest cos i love um and yes it still causes giant burbs ha ha

smiler, dont lose hope its stil early enough, fx for tomor xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

[DiscoRia]

Such great news from the expecting ladies!

Babybemine, flateluence is also a good sign. Do you normally get lots of gas pre af or no?

Smiler, I have everything crossed for you this cycle! Just because there is no OV yet, doesn't mean it wont happen *hugs*

I went to Turin for the weekend with friends. My in-laws have a little apartment there, so we did lots of walking around the city, some shopping and lots of chocolate eating (they make AMAZING chocolate in that city). That was great fun, but now I'm in bed, sick

I've got the whole week off work and I had to leave work after only 3 hours yesterday due to insane dizziness. I nearly fell over a couple of times yesterday and again today in the doctors surgery

Doc doesn't really know what is wrong, thinks it could be sinus related, so I've got a short course of antibiotics to take, but she said not to ttc while taking them. I want to do a little reading as to why... I should be OVing sometime after this weekend and hate the idea of this cycle just going out the window But if I'm sick, I should take care of myself first right? If my symptoms don't go by Friday I have to make an appt with the ear nose and throat doctor.

My gp is also a reproductive specialist, so I asked her about the 'rules' here in Italy. Turns out they are the same as in the Uk and after 12 months ttc with no pg, we should go in for tests. She actually said that if there is no pg by jan/feb I should go back... I feel really ambivalent about the whole thing. There have definitely been months when we haven't bd at the right times and if we go in 2-3 months early then I feel like we're not even giving ourselves a fighting chance of conceiving alone BUT I also feel that if there is something wrong with either or both of us, it's better to find out earlier rather than spend another 6 months trying with no luck right?

Ugh. I am having a really shitty day and just want to curl up and cry. My digital opks still haven't arrived, I feel like I'm letting my colleagues down by not being at work (we have a new teacher starting and one teacher moving to another class, so there's enough change going on already, without my absence) and what with all the ttc nonsense I just feel overwhelmed right now.

I guess I just need a hug, but my OH is in Wales for a job interview. He won't be home until late tonight and I'm housebound thanks to my sick leave... it's not like I have any friends that live nearby anyway. Listen to me being a negative nelly.

It's time for me to find the positive again... I'm going to find out more about this no ttc on antibiotics malarkey and then have a(nother) rest.

Oh babybemine, we have some baby things stored away. A lot of people think it's super bad luck, but I don't believe that the universe works that way. You can chose to draw positive or negative things into your life through your attitude and the way that you view your experiences and opportunities. But for me, personally, I believe that my little baby stash is more about my limited willpower when it comes to adorable items and my love of spending money, than any conscious decision to bring a baby into my life. Unless you have a fear that by buying baby or materinity goods will 'tempt fate' into making something negative happen for you, then I don't believe it is bad. If you consciously made it into part of a ritual or part of your positive visualisation process, even better

Good Luck Lovely Ladies xx

 

[lilesMom]

discoria sorry u r sick chick, xxxxxxx big hugs, hope u feel better soon , xxxxxxxx
i knwo what u mean about testing, xxxxxxx if it was me as much as i woldnt wnat to do it, i prob wouldnt be able to wait but im quite impatient sometimes xxxxxxxxxxxx

 

[babybemine]

Such great news from the expecting ladies!

Babybemine, flateluence is also a good sign. Do you normally get lots of gas pre af or no?

Smiler, I have everything crossed for you this cycle! Just because there is no OV yet, doesn't mean it wont happen *hugs*

I went to Turin for the weekend with friends. My in-laws have a little apartment there, so we did lots of walking around the city, some shopping and lots of chocolate eating (they make AMAZING chocolate in that city). That was great fun, but now I'm in bed, sick

I've got the whole week off work and I had to leave work after only 3 hours yesterday due to insane dizziness. I nearly fell over a couple of times yesterday and again today in the doctors surgery

Doc doesn't really know what is wrong, thinks it could be sinus related, so I've got a short course of antibiotics to take, but she said not to ttc while taking them. I want to do a little reading as to why... I should be OVing sometime after this weekend and hate the idea of this cycle just going out the window But if I'm sick, I should take care of myself first right? If my symptoms don't go by Friday I have to make an appt with the ear nose and throat doctor.

My gp is also a reproductive specialist, so I asked her about the 'rules' here in Italy. Turns out they are the same as in the Uk and after 12 months ttc with no pg, we should go in for tests. She actually said that if there is no pg by jan/feb I should go back... I feel really ambivalent about the whole thing. There have definitely been months when we haven't bd at the right times and if we go in 2-3 months early then I feel like we're not even giving ourselves a fighting chance of conceiving alone BUT I also feel that if there is something wrong with either or both of us, it's better to find out earlier rather than spend another 6 months trying with no luck right?

Ugh. I am having a really shitty day and just want to curl up and cry. My digital opks still haven't arrived, I feel like I'm letting my colleagues down by not being at work (we have a new teacher starting and one teacher moving to another class, so there's enough change going on already, without my absence) and what with all the ttc nonsense I just feel overwhelmed right now.

I guess I just need a hug, but my OH is in Wales for a job interview. He won't be home until late tonight and I'm housebound thanks to my sick leave... it's not like I have any friends that live nearby anyway. Listen to me being a negative nelly.

It's time for me to find the positive again... I'm going to find out more about this no ttc on antibiotics malarkey and then have a(nother) rest.

Oh babybemine, we have some baby things stored away. A lot of people think it's super bad luck, but I don't believe that the universe works that way. You can chose to draw positive or negative things into your life through your attitude and the way that you view your experiences and opportunities. But for me, personally, I believe that my little baby stash is more about my limited willpower when it comes to adorable items and my love of spending money, than any conscious decision to bring a baby into my life. Unless you have a fear that by buying baby or materinity goods will 'tempt fate' into making something negative happen for you, then I don't believe it is bad. If you consciously made it into part of a ritual or part of your positive visualisation process, even better

Good Luck Lovely Ladies xx

Congrats on your wedding.
Have tried visualizing baby burrowing in. Keep seeing a little tail sticking out wiggling.
I have not bought anything for the baby to be yet. I think DH would facepalm himself

to you.

 

[Smiler82]

Oh Discoria Sorry you are ill! I know it's a real kick in the teeth when you find you have to skip a cycle but in my opinion if it is sinus related then you should really get it sorted out sooner rather than later. I haven't suffered with it myself but I know someone who ended up having to have an operation due to sinus issues that weren't treated properly and it was very painful for her - I'm not trying to scare you!! I just think if it's a choice between getting yourself healthy and skipping one cycle or leaving it, carrying on TTC and ending up more sick further down the line then it's just not worth it.

In saying that, I really think you should ask again about the antibiotics. With my first pregnancy I got a UTI and the midwife gave me a short course of antibiotics. Also, I had some trouble with a small patch of acne rosacea and I was given an antibiotic gel. I told the doc we were ttc and she said I would be fine to start off with, but I shouldn't use the gel for more than 3 months. I'm sure there are different types of antibiotics out there and I'm certainly no expert! But it's def worth asking - maybe can you pop to the pharmacist and ask them quickly?

How many months have you guys been trying? I think you just have to do what feels right for you. If you don't want to go bang on 12 months then don't, it's no problem. Yeah ok you could get pregnant quicker the sooner you go but I think it's as much about how you feel mentally. Like for me, I could've started on clomid well over a year ago, but I just wasn't ready for it in my mind and if I'd have started it under pressure from the doc then I would've been miserable. But now I want to be on it and I feel better Maybe see how you feel after Christmas? There's also no harm in booking an appointment for a chat and going over your options with you doctor.

Sorry you are alone when you feel bad!! My DH is often away for a night or two for work and it can be lonely Have you got any chocolate left?! If your OH gets this job will you be moving to Wales?

Big hugs hun xxx

 

[DiscoRia]

Liles Mom, I'm usually impatient too, but I guess I feel like I need to prove to myself that we can do this alone..? Silly really, how we start our family shouldn't be that important, but right now I guess it is

How is baby giraffe doing?

BabyBeMine, your visualisation sounds awesome! Thanks for the congrats At first dh did facepalm, but I found his weakness - newborn sleepsuits, AHAHAHAHA

When is AF due?

Smiler, don't worry, I am faithully taking the meds. I had sinusitis last year and it was excrutiating, which makes me think that this dizziness isn't sinus related. But I'm feeling a little better today which is good.

I found out that this type of antibiotic can cause bone and/or cartilliage damage to all children... born or unborn. Scary. My last dose is tomorrow (if symptoms go bye bye). Part of me thinks that there are no risks because I OV after the doses are finished and part of me likes the idea of a no pressure, not trying month. Guess we'll go back to sex for recreational purposes

This is our 7th Month of trying. Your words are so insightful Smiler, thank you you're right, it is about how I/We feel. I guess we just need to re-evaluate the situation ourselves and see where we're at. But I agree that talking to the doc won't do any harm.

Yeah, I ate a little chocolate and stayed up till he got home. If he gets this job, yes, we will move to Wales. He's not confident about the interview and I get the feeling he is a little unsure about the job too, but it is good that he has now made himself visible and let the right people know that he wants to move around (it's for another division of the same company) Either way I wouldn't move until the school year is out. Guess we'll have to wait and see what happens

Any signs of OV yet? Still have everything crossed for you, even my eyes! xx

I'm busy planning healthy meals for the following week and trying to find xmas presents for my family. If I'm not too dizzy I'll attempt some fertility flow yoga later.

I also got hold of the visualizing pregnancy meditation. I really REALLY enjoyed it and it brought up some previously buried feelings and beliefs that I now have a chance to work through. I find that she talks a little fast though, I'd like more time to process what she is saying and take it all in. But I still enjoyed it and will definitely give it another go this afternoon.

I am starting to feel a little off kilter again, so time for a wee nap me thinks.

Happy Hump Day Ladies xx

 

[lilesMom]

disco ria u r so right, do it all at ur own pace. xxx dont let anyone persuade u if u dont feel ready xxx u stil have 5 months left in the yr anyway and i think the yr is just a guideline anyway for people xxxx fx for u honey xxxx
does u rdoc know u r finished antibs before u Ov, def follow docs orders even if it means skipping a month, better to wait another month to have healthy LO and no guilt xxx really hope u feel better soon sweetie, i have sinus trouble a lot and its yucky xxxx
dizziness is not fun xxxxxxxxx people dont take it very seriously but when u have it , its yuck xxx big hugs xxxxxxx

hoep all the girlies here r good xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
fx and for all xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

 

[lilesMom]

disco ria maybe its ear and sinus thing, i often have both together and the ear is more likely to cause dizziness, either way ur antibs r strong and will sort it out for u xxxxx

 

[babybemine]

BabyBeMine, your visualisation sounds awesome! Thanks for the congrats At first dh did facepalm, but I found his weakness - newborn sleepsuits, AHAHAHAHA

When is AF due?

\Happy Hump Day Ladies xx

AF due in two days. Patiently...anxiously waiting to test. I have a FRER just sitting in the box waiting for me to pee on it.
My morning will occur in about eight hours and I will see how I feel then whether I test or not.

 

[lilesMom]

fx for u sweetie xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx come on BFP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! xxxxxxxxxxx

 

[Smiler82]

Discoria it's nice to hear you sounding a little more positive today I hope the antibiotics kick the bug up the backside and it goes away I would be inclined to agree with you that OVing after the tablets have finished you will most likely be ok. Just think of all the people out there who don't realise they're pregnant and carry on drinking, smoking, eating badly, taking various medications etc etc...then their babies turn out to be just fine! Again, I don't know about all the antibiotics out there, but apparently in the book Taking Charge of your Fertility, the author actually says antibiotics can help with EWCM! So it could actually work out perfectly timing-wise x

Wow Wales would be a real change from Italy! FX for him though either way, hope he makes the right decision for his job, career etc. Nice to be with the same company though, and they can see he has ambitions

Oh yay glad you found a copy of the meditation track Yeah I think the first few times you listen to it there isn't always enough space between the things she's saying, but now I know the track quite well, I often find myself thinking about it when I'm just having some general quiet time. I spend more time imagining myself pregnant, as she says, and I find it a little easier to keep the positive thoughts at the forefront of my mind rather than the negative ones.


Lilesmom, how is everything with you? Yes, as discoria says how is little giraffe?? You starting back at work soon?

Babybemine - good luck if you decide to test tomorrow!!

AFM - got my +OPK today I thought I'd ruined it all by taking my very last OPK with quite diluted pee, and 2 hours earlier than I normally take it (I was busting haha) and it's very clearly positive! I've been ill this week though, and now it seems DH has come down with it But he says he won't be stopped haha

 

[lilesMom]

ooohhh smiler hurray that is sooo fab xxxxxxxxxx keeping my fx for u honey xxxxxxx
woohoo happy bd xxxxxx
fill ur oh with honey and lemon , he will be good to go ha ha
me and giraffe r good thanks
im feelng better than i have done in a long long time
ive stopped worryin about bub, 12.5 week scan worked that miracle
i believe it wil happen for me now, hopefull all will go well.
ive done lost of healing sessions (iet and reiki) and have had my angel course and i feel so much more normal mentally and physically
relaxation really is the best thing to help us xxxx however is good for u to relax is what u should be doin.
ur cd sounds lovely, u remind me i must get back to my hypno borth cds and up the ante on um ive neglected it a little lately
im still unsure about work but i dont care either way anymore cos im just glad things r goin well
my boss wasnt there when i rang last week, they said she would be back tues, i rang tues, they said she took an extra day to ring wed (today) i rang today , they said she isnt in and wil be back tomor. does she ever work ha ha so hoping il know tomor ha ha. whatever is supposed to happen will happen, if she says yeah and i go back then good, more dosh and time goes faster
if she says no can do , then i stay out and thats fine too xxxxxxxxxxxxx
i hope my new found PMa stays with me all the time, xxxxxx

 

[Smiler82]

Aw Lilesmom it's awesome to hear you so chilled and happy It just shows how important our state of mind is to our general well being. What is iet?

Argh that's annoying about your boss! But you sound too chilled to get really annoyed haha FX you find out once and for all tomorrow!

DH seems to be perking up a little; we have cough drops, syrup and Lemsip all at the ready He'll be fine, there's not much that can stand between him and some hahaha xx

 

[lilesMom]

smiler tell Dh im proud of him taking one (or 3 or 4 ), for the team while he has man flu (joke ) xxxxx ha ha
hope he feels better soon and hope ye catch they eggy this round xxxxxxxx yey
Iet is a type of energy healing, it helps u release stuff ur holdin onto, it feels a bit weird but good think i had a heavy session yest cos i was wiped out after it but felt lighter xxxxx it is lovely its along the same lines as reiki, it just works a little differently xx
just to share with ye , i can now eat food without feeling really sick, its a great feeling ha ha xx

 

[Smiler82]

Hahaha lol I will tell him I am feeling so excited right now but also really nervous! I just want it to be our turn already haha

Ooh IET sounds interesting. Great that you feel lighter after doing it, even if it was tiring. Aw that's so great you can eat without feeling sick Savour those flavours! xxx

 

[DiscoRia]

Babybemine, Good Luck for your testing, whether you choose the coming morning or not *hugs*

LilesMom, iet sounds really interesting! I'm really glad you're feeling so positive Also good news about less sickness. I am sure that feeling ill when pg has the silver lining of knowing it's all for the best of reasons, but it must be nice to just savour the flavours as Smiler said Enjoy!

Yay for +ve opk Smiler! All those little spermies will be ready and waiting for your eggy

My digi opks arrived, so now all I wanna do is pee on a stick, even though I did an ic this morning and it's very clearly negative... this is all shiny and NEW, hehe.

Has anyone heard of lunaception? Thinking back to my random OV last cycle, i wonder if this had an influence, because in the mountain house we sleep on the top floor where there are no curtains and there is a huge window right by the bed where star and moonlight just floods in (if it's not cloudy of course)... I'm totaly curious and want to do a little experiment this month now

 

[lilesMom]

smiler fx
disco ria hurray for shiny opk

 

[Smiler82]

Thanks Ladies!

Yes, I've heard of lunaception Discoria. I made a half-hearted attempt to do it but I'm not organized enough! You have to sleep in absolute darkness til something like CD12, then for three nights you allow a little bit of light in, then go back to total darkness. Unfortunately for us there is a massive streetlamp right outside our bedroom window and I think that type of orangey light is bad! It's meant to be a purer light, like the moon. They say that in the days before light pollution the moon had a much greater effect on women's cycles