pushing it here. anyone else over 45?

[amommy]

Wow how scary angelic, I sure enjoyed seeing your activity here and learning about your progress.. So sorry you have instead having to go through awful health issues!!

I hope you can ttc someday soon, and if you want it please don't give up!! HUGS and my name on FB is Christi Hosking.. Look me up and add me!!

 

[Desperado167]

Judy,get better soon,

 

[heavenly]

Well, I logged on to start a thread just like this one! It must be fate. I need your help girls.

I have been trying for 4 years ( am 45 now), OH is 35. 3 years ago, we had a test each, his sperm count was fine and my FSH was 7.4, which I am told is pretty good for an old trout! Anyway, since then I have been using the ClearBlue Ovulation Monitor and I do ovulate majority of the time. I got the monitor as I have irregular cycles (periods (anything from 23-28 days). Past year, I have been suffering anxiety and depression, I am on a low dose of Citalopram and have been having counselling, I am making huge progress and part of my depression was brought on by the thought of never being a mum. So I am working through it, trying to prepare myself it may never happen. But my counsellor said I need to really give the 'getting pregnant' a real proper go and be more aggressive (which I haven't been), find out everything I can, and go back to my GP and ask for more tests. So at least, if it doesn't happen, I know that I have done everything I can. We don't have the money to go private. So not sure just what the NHS will stump up for an oldie, like me. I am just scared the GP will just say 'you're 45, there's no point'. It's just one of those things that I met the love of my life later in life and we have so much love to give!

Any advice?

 

[lilmamatoW]

One week shy of 46 years old......and wait for it.....I'm pregnant. Yep. And naturally. I'm still in shock as are my 24 and 25 year old kids (and scared, nervous, anxious, with a bit of hope creeping in...and a fairly large range of emotions in the blink of an eye)....as originally, I thought I was pre-menopausal. I could not believe what the doctor was telling me.....and I was convinced that I had ovarian cancer or some other reason to raise my HcG levels and to miss a period. I went through some very tough losses three years ago. One miscarriage and then a loss of my daughter in the second trimester. During my grief the following year....I asked my doctor if it was possible to get pregnant again....and his kind response was that it would be extremely unlikely and difficult at my age to get pregnant unless I went through interventional means. Not having the funds to do that...I tried to move forward in life. That said.....here I sit with my little miracle baby. I am officially 8 weeks today. I am currently struggling with so much fear and anxiety right now. It is hard to temper any hope....with the odds of miscarriage and genetic issues so high....and it feels like there is so much against us. I also have a blood clotting disorder...so they have immediately started me on daily injections of the blood thinner Lovenox. I am scared, scared, scared of everything right now. On top of things....when it seemed that I might be ill in the beginning....the father who wanted to marry me....was very supportive (we are not married - and he was not the father of any previous children). When he found out that I was really pregnant....he became another person....and let's just say I dodged a bullet. He continually tries to bully me....and says that I ruined his life. I lost my job with cutbacks 7 months ago....and I have exhausted all my savings up until now. The father has left....but continues the bullying in messages and emails. So here I sit....feeling a little desperate for a rainbow....and trying to take one day at a time. I know that God must have a plan....and I'm just trying to keep the faith. So here's hoping for all of you who are still trying....it is not impossible to conceive at this age. Please say a prayer for me and my little miracle.

3saCharm, thank you so much for your post! All the best to you--hope all goes well with you and your little one.

 

[Desperado167]

Hi heavenly,I wud use ovulation predictor sticks as well,start temping and bd every day after af till u know u have ovulated,also give the cups a try ,and u are def not too old,I am 44 and I know I will get my sticky bean soon. ,good luck Hun

 

[Angelicdragon]

I conceived and had a baby at 45 with no assissstance. My FSH then was 6. I am on zoloft and have ben charting since 2003. My cycles are anywhere between 23 and 33 days. Quite a wide range. But I still can get pg every 6 mths or so, just can;r seem to keep them now, but I am 47.
I have been really sick laely and in critical care in hospital for a week and my GP wanted me back there yesterday. I have liver damage and as I don't drink alcohol we are all stumped as to why. I think liver levels affect fertility which could be why I can't stay pg.
Good luck and just get in some more BD action and try charting as well as OPKs.

 

[amommy]

Heavenly I would use temping as well as OPK's as OPK's only predict ovulation but don't confirm it.. The only accurate way to confirm O is to see a shift in temperature. There are many supplements you can take to enhance ovulation, and also people have suggested using preseed, soft cups, and definitely doing the feet up the wall trick!! it sounds funny but you have to give it a fighting chance..

Get involved here, use us for support, we are all here adn we all understand.. I have suffered from depression in the past as well, and I know that keeping ot myself always made it worse..

I think if you are not temping that you may be missing your O.. Not for certain but it sure may be possible!!

Hugs and hoping good things for you! stick around, we are a great bunch of gals!
Oh and by the way I had my last kid just shy of 39, and I am 47 and TTC again!

 

[StarSign]

Well, I logged on to start a thread just like this one! It must be fate. I need your help girls.

I have been trying for 4 years ( am 45 now), OH is 35. 3 years ago, we had a test each, his sperm count was fine and my FSH was 7.4, which I am told is pretty good for an old trout! Anyway, since then I have been using the ClearBlue Ovulation Monitor and I do ovulate majority of the time. I got the monitor as I have irregular cycles (periods (anything from 23-28 days). Past year, I have been suffering anxiety and depression, I am on a low dose of Citalopram and have been having counselling, I am making huge progress and part of my depression was brought on by the thought of never being a mum. So I am working through it, trying to prepare myself it may never happen. But my counsellor said I need to really give the 'getting pregnant' a real proper go and be more aggressive (which I haven't been), find out everything I can, and go back to my GP and ask for more tests. So at least, if it doesn't happen, I know that I have done everything I can. We don't have the money to go private. So not sure just what the NHS will stump up for an oldie, like me. I am just scared the GP will just say 'you're 45, there's no point'. It's just one of those things that I met the love of my life later in life and we have so much love to give!

Any advice?

Instead soft cups to keep the swimmers close to your cervix, Siberian ginseng to help increase uterine lining. What have you already done? Do you know what your hormonal profile is (high estrogen, low estrogen, low progesterone, chemical mc's). That'll give us all an idea on what to recommend also.

 

[heavenly]

Well, I logged on to start a thread just like this one! It must be fate. I need your help girls.

I have been trying for 4 years ( am 45 now), OH is 35. 3 years ago, we had a test each, his sperm count was fine and my FSH was 7.4, which I am told is pretty good for an old trout! Anyway, since then I have been using the ClearBlue Ovulation Monitor and I do ovulate majority of the time. I got the monitor as I have irregular cycles (periods (anything from 23-28 days). Past year, I have been suffering anxiety and depression, I am on a low dose of Citalopram and have been having counselling, I am making huge progress and part of my depression was brought on by the thought of never being a mum. So I am working through it, trying to prepare myself it may never happen. But my counsellor said I need to really give the 'getting pregnant' a real proper go and be more aggressive (which I haven't been), find out everything I can, and go back to my GP and ask for more tests. So at least, if it doesn't happen, I know that I have done everything I can. We don't have the money to go private. So not sure just what the NHS will stump up for an oldie, like me. I am just scared the GP will just say 'you're 45, there's no point'. It's just one of those things that I met the love of my life later in life and we have so much love to give!

Any advice?

Instead soft cups to keep the swimmers close to your cervix, Siberian ginseng to help increase uterine lining. What have you already done? Do you know what your hormonal profile is (high estrogen, low estrogen, low progesterone, chemical mc's). That'll give us all an idea on what to recommend also.

Thank you everyone for your kind replies. You see, this is my problem, I am not clued up at all! My test, which was actually 2 years ago, says the following, I don't know if this helps. Do I need any more tests?

Serum TSH level - 2.31 mu/L
Serum LH level - 5.2 iu/L
Serum FSH level - 7.4 iu/L
Serum progesterone - 18 nmol/L
Serum oestradiol level - 248 pmol/L


I have actually no idea what this all means, apart from the fact my GP said my FSH was the most important thing and that was a good level for my age. I haven't had any chemical miscarriages, not that I am aware of anyway!

I don't even know what soft cups are. I'm rubbish at this!

 

[angifi]

I just wanted to chime in and say : Don't give up.

Last month in the Australian Women's Weekly there was an article about a well known news reader who had her second baby at 43 - without any assistance at all. Then in this month's magazine, they had the article about the mum who had her first child at 50, but also a letter from a lady saying that she had three babies in her forties, all naturally, the last one at 49.

It helped me feel a bit more positive.

I recently got my AMH result which was "less than 1.1, very low ovarian reserve". I was really depressed by it, but now I think it is just telling me what I already knew - that I don't have a lot of eggs left. However it doesn't measure the quality of the eggs, so hopefully I still have one more good one in there, and will go on to have a healthy baby.

I also had some recurrent miscarriage tests done, after 2 miscarriages, and it was found that my testosterone is low (am taking homeopathic DHEA for it), and the tests picked up that I have autoimmune markers, which may have contributed to the miscarriages. I'm going to see a specialist in a couple of weeks. Maybe I just need some aspirin to sort it out.

Heavenly, are you charting? I have found that to be such a useful thing to do - it has really helped me understand my cycle and keep up with what is going on in my body ( most of the time.LOL). If you are considering it, there is a great website : Fertility Friend, which is great, and teaches you how to do it.

The conservative, normal medical system does seem to think we are too old, but you will find many natural therapists, and traditional Chinese medicine practioners will say you still have time.

I'm doing regular acupuncture treatments, and they have been very helpful. I used to have period pain, but now I don't get the slightest cramp or twinge. I also find acupuncture to be really calming, which helps when you are ttc.

Good Luck!

 

[amommy]

Wanted to send a shout out to everyone here who has been so supportive of me and my POAS obsession, nervous days, and prolific posting!!

The blood at my cervix is red now, and even though it has not reached my panties I am fairly certain that this will be AF.. Might take a couple days of spotting but I am sure she will arrive.. A bit sad that my luteal phase is so short, but to be expected at my age.. Getting old sucks.. it really does, and somehow I was hoping I would cheat the hands of time and get one last miracle.. I'm not so much sad about the baby thing, but at life itself and how much time I have wasted and let time pass me by!!

Most of the tests I have taken do not really have lines anymore, the IC's still have the leftovers and they were actually looking kind of +, but just never could get a dark BFP no matter how many different brands I tried.. Did an Answer early tonight and i got an indent line with what looks like no color!! I think my testing experience has ran the gammet this month.. evaps, grey lines, pink evaps, multiple + that faded to -, while lines, indent lines, and of course NO BLUE dye evap.. It has been quite the journey, spent a bit too much on PG tests, but I guess as far as hobbies go it was a fun one to partake in.

I hope to continue to come back here and be supportive of others, I have really enjoyed that and gotten very excited as people get their BFP's and their journey takes a diff path.. I have given birth, had babies and even graduated 3 children from High school already, I would say that is quite the accomplishments!! and for the past 7 years I have done the parenting as a single mom.

All in all, by far the most important thing I have done in my life is raise my kids, if I can give any advice to anyone here who is just starting their journey to parenthood... Enjoy every moment of it!! It goes way to fast.. My baby is now 7 and quite independent!!

Hugs and huge amounts of baby dust to all the ladies here who are trying to conceive, or those who are done trying but have children who depend on them.

Night night
xposted in 2 ww and pregnancy test gallery!

 

[heavenly]

Heavenly, are you charting? I have found that to be such a useful thing to do - it has really helped me understand my cycle and keep up with what is going on in my body ( most of the time.LOL). If you are considering it, there is a great website : Fertility Friend, which is great, and teaches you how to do it.

The conservative, normal medical system does seem to think we are too old, but you will find many natural therapists, and traditional Chinese medicine practioners will say you still have time.

I'm doing regular acupuncture treatments, and they have been very helpful. I used to have period pain, but now I don't get the slightest cramp or twinge. I also find acupuncture to be really calming, which helps when you are ttc.

Good Luck!

I have used Fertility Friend chart, and I use the CBFM which tells me when I peak, but I have not done any temperature taking, this seems to be the thing I should be doing? Also, I have been advised to try acupuncture so think I will give that a go. I am seeing my GP this week, seeing I haven't had any tests for 2 years, I am going to see what she can offer me and am hoping she has not given up on me.

 

[Angelicdragon]

Hi, I'm back with an all clear to TTC
Surgeon said the 'tumour' in my liver is just diffeerent tissue and is not dangerous and to ignore it.
I did some fertility testing too and my FSH is still 5 and all other levles are good although not given the levels for those.
I do now have asthma and have to be on a preventative every day and ventolin and some things (inclduing BD) set it off bad How do you TTC when BD sets off asthma and you can't breathe? I can't go outside after the sun disappears over the hill coz then the air is too cold. I hate having adult onset asthma.
That's my whinge.
Christi hun don't give up. We can do it hun. We are not old by the new generation only by the very old view of things. Says me who goes to bed at 8pm every night with aching ribs from coughing.
Having fun though as my tax return came in so I spent u BIG time on lots of trees and plants for the garden so put new garden beds in and now just need another batch of dirt to finish off. I do however need manpower help to dig out the black currant bushes. I have found having 15 bushes gives us way too much fruit and there is only so much jam yu can make.
So spring time and TTC fever are here.
Lets prove us over 45'ers can still do it
BTW I am on DHEA 25mg daily and coQ10 100mg a day as well as the vitex 1000mg a day. Surely something has to work

Judy

 

[Just_married]

AngelicDragon, I really hope you feel back to full health soon. I just wanted to give you some encouragement not to give up. My wee gran had her last 2 at ages 45 and 47, both healthy girls. This is reassuring for me as I turn 40 next month. I am talking 40 yrs ago too as which is even more encouraging as there was no kind of intervention, it was all natural. She was still having children when her older children were having there's brilliant eh? xxx

 

[Garnet]

Hi, I'm back with an all clear to TTC
Surgeon said the 'tumour' in my liver is just diffeerent tissue and is not dangerous and to ignore it.
I did some fertility testing too and my FSH is still 5 and all other levles are good although not given the levels for those.
I do now have asthma and have to be on a preventative every day and ventolin and some things (inclduing BD) set it off bad How do you TTC when BD sets off asthma and you can't breathe? I can't go outside after the sun disappears over the hill coz then the air is too cold. I hate having adult onset asthma.
That's my whinge.
Christi hun don't give up. We can do it hun. We are not old by the new generation only by the very old view of things. Says me who goes to bed at 8pm every night with aching ribs from coughing.
Having fun though as my tax return came in so I spent u BIG time on lots of trees and plants for the garden so put new garden beds in and now just need another batch of dirt to finish off. I do however need manpower help to dig out the black currant bushes. I have found having 15 bushes gives us way too much fruit and there is only so much jam yu can make.
So spring time and TTC fever are here.
Lets prove us over 45'ers can still do it
BTW I am on DHEA 25mg daily and coQ10 100mg a day as well as the vitex 1000mg a day. Surely something has to work

Judy

Glad all is well with you and hopefully you will get a pregnant soon!

 

[amommy]

welcome back angelic.. sure missed you!! you came just in time to find me on yet another short cycle!! spotting/bleeding at 8 dpo. Tried soy this cycle and not sure if that has affected it, or if maybe it was a chemical pregnancy!!

Either way, so glad you got the all clear!! can't wait to see you posting again! and your FSH is awesome!

 

[onmymind17]

my inspiration is a lady I know from church. She is 6 months older than me, has had all her babies as home births, never had a loss and is up to baby #10. Not that I want that many, 6 all up alive will do me fine lol. Her youngest is about 6 months so if I hadn't of had one of the m/c last year we would have been pg again together. Lately though we both get pg and she has a a baby and I lose one. Her eldest and my eldest are a week apart, then her next and my next were born the same day 2 hrs apart and after that our paths went awry until 2004 when Belinda is 2 months older than my Samuel and since then she has had 3 more.

What chances are there overseas for any assistance TTC over the age of 45?
here in Tassie you cannot cycle with your own eggs after the age of 44. If you are TTC #1 or 2 then you may be able to have donor egg or embryo but other than that you are on your own after your 44th birthday.

I am sorry for your losses, i have had 4 m/c only one of them was a natural conception, the other 3 were from IUI. For me i cannot seem to get pg on my own, and when we do IUI, i get pg but cant seem to keep them. I am going to try for an IVF, i just turned 44, we figured we will give it one try with my eggs, and then if it does not work, then we will try with donor eggs. We are still TTC our first little one. Have you tried taking DHEA? I have heard great things about it, and have just started it myself in anticipation of the IVF. Also i have heard amazing things about Maca Root, both are supposed to help with the egg quality. I sure hope you can get a super sticky bean real soon!!

 

[Desperado167]

Didnt realise ladies cud take the macca too,does it affect your cycle ?

 

[onmymind17]

Didnt realise ladies cud take the macca too,does it affect your cycle ?

I have not tried the maca yet, but i have heard wonderful things about it. For now i am going to stick with just the DHEA and see what happens.

 

[Angelicdragon]

I had a friend in UK who said it was macca got her sticky BFP. I've never tried it.

I am having a stressful asthma day, the more stress the more asthma so I am off for a nanna nap and try to relax. $ problems and stuff. No lines on OPKs yet but DH is making sure he does his bit so every day so far he has it 'lucky' So if we don't get pg this month it won't be from his lack of effort.