Recurrent Miscarriage Thread

[Lamburai1703]

Thanks Widger. Always lovely to have a visit from a successful graduate on this thread!

 

[ovenbun]

Lee C thank for that info on the treatments it's useful to know what the Doc's will try. Im sorry you've been through so much i can imagine how hard this is I was recently signed of work with emotional exhustion im back at work but i had a panic attack last week. To be hit with that 2 more times I would be feeling the same. But as you said this time you got further hopefully look back with your baby and put it all behind you.

I remenber when i had 1 MC and thinking how do people cope with 3- but hear i am and its not over yet But I am finding support hear thank you to you all

ON the postitive I phone St Mary's today I have my appt for the end of march step forward in the right direction hopefully

 

[Rabbittchild]

Hi ladies,

thanks for all the good wishes, scan was ok, we have gestational sac and yolk sac all in the right place and size etc BUT Mr Rai agrees my loss of symptoms isn't a good thing and this probably won't end positively. Am to wait til my scan at EPU on the 16th and see if we end up with anything (which is unlikely) and then stop progesterone and aspirin.

I'm then to have a hysteroscopy and biopsy which has to be post ovulation and then they'll look at treating me with aspirin and heparin next time round. Am a bit sad as I won't be able to TTC til June probably and I won't be getting my 2011 baby. I know it's stupid and other ppl have been trying longer but it's been 18 months now and I thought I would be a mum by now, just so difficult when your hopes keep getting dashed.

At least we have a plan, which is what I keep telling myself.

Sorry I've not been a very good stalker/supportive am just finding it hard to keep myself afloat at the moment.

 

[ovenbun]

Lee, I'm only on my fourth but my emotions have been all over the place, too! The easiest questions such as what do I want for dinner have me completely flummoxed. Honestly, I don't know how my DH puts up with me sometimes!
I'm just about testing negative now (ignoring line eye) so hopefully some of the hormonal factors will be taken out of the equation. I also wonder how everyone else on here copes? What about work?

Rabbit, just wanted to send you some big fat as I know the wait for your scan is going to be hard for you. Just one more sleep, though xxx

I was wondering the same about dealing with work is really differcult i started a new job I had my 1st MC within 2 month of starting and then 3 in 6 months and I have also had a week of with exhustion 5 weeks in total, they have reduced my hours after a battle because I couldn't cope but I can feel the resentment. I have a risk assessment on Friday but I do fear another MC will send me into the dark not sure if I will be able to go back it was touch and go weather i would return after my last spell away from work.

 

[ovenbun]

Hi ladies,

thanks for all the good wishes, scan was ok, we have gestational sac and yolk sac all in the right place and size etc BUT Mr Rai agrees my loss of symptoms isn't a good thing and this probably won't end positively. Am to wait til my scan at EPU on the 16th and see if we end up with anything (which is unlikely) and then stop progesterone and aspirin.

I'm then to have a hysteroscopy and biopsy which has to be post ovulation and then they'll look at treating me with aspirin and heparin next time round. Am a bit sad as I won't be able to TTC til June probably and I won't be getting my 2011 baby. I know it's stupid and other ppl have been trying longer but it's been 18 months now and I thought I would be a mum by now, just so difficult when your hopes keep getting dashed.

At least we have a plan, which is what I keep telling myself.

Sorry I've not been a very good stalker/supportive am just finding it hard to keep myself afloat at the moment.

It seams strange to me it feels so negative when the scan was technically OK I think still hope of this pregancy.
I have to wait till June and my last MC was beging of december and have stopped TTC all this time which stinks

 

[maggsy11]

Hi Ovenbun.
My specialist prescribed me the progesterone, gp was a bit apprehensive but did write my last prescription.
Tbh honest it's more on a may as well try it basis as can't do any harm, and my m/c's always happen in early on.
I've also tried aspirin, this didn't help alone but again I've been told to take on a may as well try basis, plus the progesterone can thicken blood so the aspirin can apparently help as obviously it's an anticoagulant.
First 3 mc's no med. 4th mc 75mg aspirin, 5th mc aspirin and progesterone started 1 wk after BFP, 6th pg aspirin and progesterone started day after BFP, got further than ever in this one and heartbeat, unfortunately ectopic
It's been suggested now that low progesterone is best helped by taking supplement from OV, I'm on Cyclogest 400mg.
Going to discuss prednisone at my next appt on 16th too.
Sorry to ramble, but hope this helps.
If this doesn't work for me and dh, I don't really know what other options there are, so trying to do some further research prior to my appt.
The joys of pregnancy
Here's hoping though, especially as dh doesn't think I can cope with much more as it's been really difficult lately and we've been struggling due ro my erratic emotions, so here's hoping I can hold it together and persuade him to be nice to me
How is everyone else doing?
xxx

Hi, just wanted to thank you for this post, it has given me a lot of info that I can take to my appointment with consultant. I lost my daughter at fullterm in 2009, and have since gone on to misscarry 3 times. I asked about progesterone supplements but was told they dont prescribe them in Glasgow!! I will now ask about them, as before my first misscarraige I had the day 21 bloods done and they came back low, and it turned out I was pregnant at the time!! leaves me wondering if that pregnancy could have been successful had they given me the supplements then??

Anyway, before I start ranting about the nhs I'll stop, just thanks for your post and I hope you are successful next time

xmagsx

 

[stardust22]

Hi Ladies, sorry everyone is feeling so down. I have been like that alot lately but today I had some good news. the karyotyping me and my hubby had in December has come back all ok. I guess its the one I was most dreading as its very difficult to treat, I think IVF and PGD in the only option. Anyways. I have a follow up mid april to see consultant for my first proper meeting (I did see him as I work in the unit where I am being treated!) so he has seen me off the record (so to speak) I was told my result today in the corridor (rather than waiting 6 weeks for it)

Does anyone know how much it costs privately to have to natural killer cells blood test and where they do it? thanks.

xx

 

[hopefulmama2b]

Thanks Hopefulmama2be! How r u?

Doing ok! I'm still spotting kind of- just when I wipe not even enough for a liner, but I still don't like it. I have my 2 week D&C follow up tomorrow so hoping that everything looks good. We'll see I guess...

Rabbitchild- I hope it doesn't turn out as a mc even though you feel it's going that way. Good luck to you

 

[dairymomma]

Any advice on how to calm down other people when they find out you are preggo? I had 3 m/c before I went on Prometrium and baby aspirin and successfully carried my son to term. 6 months ago, I was diagnosed with a chemical pregnancy and learned that my 3rd m/c may have been one too. I am currently 8wks into my 6th pregnancy in 3 years. Of course I'm nervous about m/c again. Who wouldn't be? But I'm not going to stop living my life simply because of it. I've been on Prometrium and aspirin since wk4 but I was just diagnosed with a very small subchorionic hematoma. Both my doc and OB are okay with me resuming my daily activites, including milking cows. (I'm self-employed as a dairy farmer.) My m-i-l is wonderful-totally supportive and a great listener when I talked about my fears. However, my mom and sis just FREAKED out when they found out! I'm nervous enough on my own, I don't need to be dealing with their issues too. I've tried telling them that I'm following my doc's orders to a T-feet up when not working, no lifting over 20lb, no standing for more than 1 hr, etc and that both docs are okay with me working. But it's not enough for them. So any ideas on how to get them to back off a bit? I appreciate their concern but can't they just be happy that I'm preggo and things (other than the hematoma) are going well?

 

[LeeC]

Hi Ovenbun.
My specialist prescribed me the progesterone, gp was a bit apprehensive but did write my last prescription.
Tbh honest it's more on a may as well try it basis as can't do any harm, and my m/c's always happen in early on.
I've also tried aspirin, this didn't help alone but again I've been told to take on a may as well try basis, plus the progesterone can thicken blood so the aspirin can apparently help as obviously it's an anticoagulant.
First 3 mc's no med. 4th mc 75mg aspirin, 5th mc aspirin and progesterone started 1 wk after BFP, 6th pg aspirin and progesterone started day after BFP, got further than ever in this one and heartbeat, unfortunately ectopic
It's been suggested now that low progesterone is best helped by taking supplement from OV, I'm on Cyclogest 400mg.
Going to discuss prednisone at my next appt on 16th too.
Sorry to ramble, but hope this helps.
If this doesn't work for me and dh, I don't really know what other options there are, so trying to do some further research prior to my appt.
The joys of pregnancy
Here's hoping though, especially as dh doesn't think I can cope with much more as it's been really difficult lately and we've been struggling due ro my erratic emotions, so here's hoping I can hold it together and persuade him to be nice to me
How is everyone else doing?
xxx

Hi, just wanted to thank you for this post, it has given me a lot of info that I can take to my appointment with consultant. I lost my daughter at fullterm in 2009, and have since gone on to misscarry 3 times. I asked about progesterone supplements but was told they dont prescribe them in Glasgow!! I will now ask about them, as before my first misscarraige I had the day 21 bloods done and they came back low, and it turned out I was pregnant at the time!! leaves me wondering if that pregnancy could have been successful had they given me the supplements then??

Anyway, before I start ranting about the nhs I'll stop, just thanks for your post and I hope you are successful next time

xmagsx

Hi Maggsy

So sorry for you losses, my heart goes out to you.

Who are you speaking to in Glasgow, my doctor did not want to prescribe progesterone initially, so I got a prescription through a therapist I was seeing who was very understanding and even though the gp was apprehensive about progesterone therapy I went along to the surgery with so much info and research, I don't think she really had a case to argue, as she agreed it can't do any harm to try, especially as she knows my track record.
She def would not prescribe prednisone though, so, I have spoken to Maureen at EPAS at the Princess Royal, she has been so good to me along with the rest of the nurses at EPAS, she even came to visit me twice when I was taken in for emergency ectopic, bless her, anyway, I spoke to her last week, to ask how I would get a referral for Marco Gaudoin at the Southern, as I hear he is very good.

I have a follow up appt at the Princess Royal on the 16th, so she told me to speak to the ob there about prednisone.
She def agreed that the progesterone seemed to get me further than before and said to def keep using this.
I've spoken to the girls and my specialist about a number of things, so if this can benefit you too then great
I'm not sure that this is your problem in m/c, as don't know your situation, but I'm pretty sure low prog usually ends in early m/c.
Anyway, sorry for rambling, but that is a load of rubbish, it is prescribed in Glasgow, I'm living proof.
I think sometimes you just have to scream to get yourself heard, I'm english and moved here when I met dh, I have noticed the differences in the NHS, but there are some good guys in Glasgow who will help, honest.
Anytime you want to rant, I'm here.

Wishing you every success in getting your sticky xxx
I hope this post has also helped and if you are still struggling, please post or pm me and I'm happy to give you some more a

 

[LeeC]

.... some more advice that I've been given over the years xxx

 

[LeeC]

By the way ladies, I'm due to OV this weekend, I can feel it, dh is definitly not up for ttc this month, probably based on the fact that he has been living with a bunny boiler for the past 5 weeks, grrrrrr, it's so hard knowing an opportunity is passing by will be trying extra hard next cycle.
I'm very achey, feels almost like period pain, I usually get this, but feels slightly different, wondering if things are still sorting themselves out inside after the ectopic.
Joy!!!

 

[lynnb]

By the way ladies, I'm due to OV this weekend, I can feel it, dh is definitly not up for ttc this month, probably based on the fact that he has been living with a bunny boiler for the past 5 weeks, grrrrrr, it's so hard knowing an opportunity is passing by will be trying extra hard next cycle.
I'm very achey, feels almost like period pain, I usually get this, but feels slightly different, wondering if things are still sorting themselves out inside after the ectopic.
Joy!!!

Shame your DH is not up for trying, couldn't you seduce him

I'm on CD3 so I've told dh to get as much rest as he can this weekend as we're starting SMEP next Wednesday & I'm not taking 'I'm too tried' as an excuse , we WILL be every other day whether he likes it or not

 

[LeeC]

Seriously Lynnb, I look like a banshee at the moment lol... I'd have a better chance getting him drunk than seducing him!!! Good luck xxx

 

[LeeC]

Rabbittchild, I'm so sorry you are in limbo land. I know all about that!!!
I'm hoping your symptoms come back and that you are cursing morning sickness soon.
Keeping everything crossed for you hun xxx

 

[petitpas]

I was wondering the same about dealing with work is really differcult i started a new job I had my 1st MC within 2 month of starting and then 3 in 6 months and I have also had a week of with exhustion 5 weeks in total, they have reduced my hours after a battle because I couldn't cope but I can feel the resentment. I have a risk assessment on Friday but I do fear another MC will send me into the dark not sure if I will be able to go back it was touch and go weather i would return after my last spell away from work.

Hey ovenbun, sorry that your work aren't being supportive. I'd have thought reducing your hours would be a win-win solution? They pay you less and are more sure of you coming in because you won't be suffering from exhaustion.
Hopefully, the people carrying out your risk assessment are more understanding of your situation.

 

[ovenbun]

Hi all im not sure if this is the right forum to put this however can some one give me some advise- my cycle is usally regular 28 days ovulate day 17/18 this month I had 4 days of late ovulation pain this didn't finish until CD 25. Im now 1 week late I'v done 2x pregancy tests both negative. I keep getting mild cramp and occasional throbbing on 1 side but is mild anyone? should i be worried??

 

[Rabbittchild]

Hi Ladies, sorry everyone is feeling so down. I have been like that alot lately but today I had some good news. the karyotyping me and my hubby had in December has come back all ok. I guess its the one I was most dreading as its very difficult to treat, I think IVF and PGD in the only option. Anyways. I have a follow up mid april to see consultant for my first proper meeting (I did see him as I work in the unit where I am being treated!) so he has seen me off the record (so to speak) I was told my result today in the corridor (rather than waiting 6 weeks for it)

Does anyone know how much it costs privately to have to natural killer cells blood test and where they do it? thanks.
xx

Glad the karyotyping came back clear you're right it is so difficult to treat if that's wrong so am so happy you got good results.

With regards to NK cells there is a Dr in Epsom that allegedly treats it, Mr Shehata but he only does a blood test to look for uterine nk cells and feedback I've had on this is that it's not a very accurate way to diagnose it. I think Siobhan Quenby's research at Heartlands has a better test where she does a uterine biopsy but the trial is closed now I think and the trial data hasn't been published so it's not a standard test yet. Maybe some of the other ladies have some input on NK cells

By the way ladies, I'm due to OV this weekend, I can feel it, dh is definitly not up for ttc this month, probably based on the fact that he has been living with a bunny boiler for the past 5 weeks, grrrrrr, it's so hard knowing an opportunity is passing by will be trying extra hard next cycle.
I'm very achey, feels almost like period pain, I usually get this, but feels slightly different, wondering if things are still sorting themselves out inside after the ectopic.
Joy!!!

always so difficult letting an opportunity slip by, maybe get the DH drunk and jump him

Hi all im not sure if this is the right forum to put this however can some one give me some advise- my cycle is usally regular 28 days ovulate day 17/18 this month I had 4 days of late ovulation pain this didn't finish until CD 25. Im now 1 week late I'v done 2x pregancy tests both negative. I keep getting mild cramp and occasional throbbing on 1 side but is mild anyone? should i be worried??

maybe if you still had ovulation pain on CD25 you might have ov'd later and you might need to wait til CD39 for AF/bfp, is your LP 14days?

Thanks for all the good wishes ladies, no returning of symptoms I'm afraid, boobs are tingling and I've been feeling sick but to be honest I don't think this is anything to do with pregnancy. I just feel sad that I know in two weeks we won't be seeing a little heart beat and that I have to wait two weeks to begin the miscarriage process - I'd just prefer to get it over and done with.

 

[mummy1234]

Hello everyone, im afraid im another newbee that has been told of this site. Hope no one minds, but really need to speak to ppl who have gone thru what ive experienced.As trying to discuss it with family and friends who are completely unaware of miscarriage, is not really helping.What brave ladies you all are and was wondering if anyone has had similar circs to me.........had my little boy 3 years ago at 32 weeks spontaneous labour, went back on pill, got pregnant in Oct 2010 after trying 3 months (but didnt seem to ovulate for the 1st two months) .....sadly began to bleed early december and was confirmed baby had passed at approx 5 weeks.Miscarried naturally and scan confirmed all gone 24th dec .....neg preg test 2 weeks later....then period started 24th jan then did not stop bleeding for 3 weeks ! ...phoned early preg unit who asked me to do preg test which was positive !....had bloods of 285...which increased to 410 48hrs later then only 580 48hours after that...one week after those bloods it was 1100....scan 22nd feb couldnt see anything......( if u r all still with me and not asleep yet!).....anyway..had scan last mon 28th feb and still nothing in uterus or tubes but bloods up to 1400 but progesterone 7.5 so they told they will treat it as pregnancy of 'unknown location' and i had the methotrexate injection tues 1st march.....they said i cant try again for 6 months which has devastated me ,,,,,,,Has anyone had methotrexate and have any advice for me please? By just reading the last months posts on here i have found out about all different methods the hosp do to try to assist you with pregnancy.....i am considering visiting my doc to see if they wud refer me for tests. I know this is my 2nd but maybe taking my 32 week prem baby into consideration too? any views/advice much appreciated please. thanks

 

[stardust22]

Hi Mummy1234, Sorry you are having to join us but there are lots of ladies who can support you and give advice. I am sorry I havent experienced what you have and cant really help but do hope you get things sorted out soon and I am sure plenty of people will be here with some answers to help you