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[Elanesse]

Scholesy - Sorry to hear of your BFN, but glad you are ok now. I think people take baby aspirin to increase uterine lining, but I dont think there is any medical study to say it definitely helps. I had a quick look on google and found this website:

https://www.fertilityties.com/post/...-aspirin-increase-thickness-of-uterine-lining

x

 

[Scholesy]

Thanks Glowstar, I'll definitely give RRLT a go this cycle How much do you drink? And from which day? I understand it should not be drunk during the tww... I might give acupuncture a go next cycle if my new 'strategy' doesn't work, lol. This TTC lark feels like a military operation sometimes... x

Elanesse, I've read good things about baby aspirin too. Thanks for the link Will have a good read. I might try that too, although I have an appt with fertility specialist in 6 weeks so I might wait until then and ask advice as I think some people aren't supposed to take it.

 

[prettymachine]

Congrats Elliott's Mum, hope it's a sticky bean..!

I had my scan on Monday, by this point the severe pains I'd be having in my left ovary had stopped. The outcome was that they believed I'd had a ruptured cyst, but that it had 'sorted itself out'. Good news I suppose and just glad the pain has gone. However, one major downer was that the sonographer said my uterine lining was 2mm thick. My heart sank because it should be thickest just before your period and this day was 13dpo (which turned out to be the last day of my cycle, AF got me this afternoon). So not only is it another BFN this month, but my lining is so thin (due to low estrogen I assume) that I could never have gotten pregnant anyway. I felt utterly depressed yesterday and today, but now with AF's arrival I need to focus on next cycle

I'm thinking I'll give soy another go, but maybe CD5-9 instead as my cycle was still really long on soy. I need to thinken my lining though, anyone have any suggestions? From what I've read Red Raspberry Leaf tea and Fish oil tablets are a good place to start? x x

when my best friend had a ruptured cyst she thought her appendix burst, did yours feel like that?

i'm sorry AF got you

i was drinking red raspberry leaf the cycle i got my +...i def recommend it! as a bonus, its delicious! just remember once you get a + to stop taking it... as it can be a labor inducer, which in early pregnancy would mean mc =/ i cant wait until i need to induce labor and can drink it again!

 

[elliots.mum]

hey ladies got the blood test results back from the dr and NEGATIVE!!! how the F can that be?? a perfectly positive wee test and a negative blood test!!! this has done my head in and now have the shits majorly!!! not happy!!!

 

[Jaz78]

elliots mum - oh that sucks! i have no idea how BT can be -ve and poas +ve. what did doc say?

scholesy - so sorry about AF and thin uterine lining. unfortunately, i feel your pain as my LP was only 8 days last cycle and AF lasted a day! (with some teeny spotting for next 2 days). such a joke and so depressing to know it's not even possible to conceive with problems like that. I would also recommend acupuncture. i thank it for my baby girl I'd be doing it myself but cant really afford it so trying to exhaust other avenues first. TTC is like a military operation, isnt it!!

happyshopper - i have had bad pap smear results a couple of times. once i had to have day surgery and another time laser treatment. It sucks, but it really wasnt that big a deal. fingers crossed that its not a big deal for you either.

AFM, tonight is my last night of taking soy! fingers crossed that I O soon. I have found my symptoms from the soy (headachey, nausea, decreased appetite) seem to decrease every day which i find surprising, but im not complaining!

The other lady who was TTCing in my MG just found out she is pregnant. I'm happy for her but so jealous. Thats two of them with another bub on the way.

 

[poppy666]

hey ladies got the blood test results back from the dr and NEGATIVE!!! how the F can that be?? a perfectly positive wee test and a negative blood test!!! this has done my head in and now have the shits majorly!!! not happy!!!

Depends what test they did, meaning it wont show positive early like your tests will.. ive seen this happen so many times on here with doctors tests.

 

[debzie]

Pardon my french but SHIT elloitsmum. I know the doc said your beta was negative but was there any hcg in your system some docs say negative is <5 other <15 if it was the latter then yes you may have a positive pregnancy test. Or perhaps it was a chemical, ieither way I am so sorry hun.

 

[prettymachine]

hey ladies got the blood test results back from the dr and NEGATIVE!!! how the F can that be?? a perfectly positive wee test and a negative blood test!!! this has done my head in and now have the shits majorly!!! not happy!!!

i would take a digi at home and see what it says. i have heard of many women who have gotten negative blood tests at the dr up until even 5 months!

at my drs they wont even use blood or urine to confirm pregnancy...only ultrasound.

 

[Scholesy]

Pretty machine - Thanks a lot for the advice on RRLT, definitely going to try that this cycle and yes that is exactly what it felt like, if the pain had been on my right side I would have thought it was appendicitis. Pain completely gone now though x

Elliot's Mum - that's really shit, but I agree with the others that I've seen a lot of posts where ladies have got (false) BFNs on doctor blood tests. The lab could be testing for too high a level of HCG. Keep testing with pee tests and ask for another blood test. Really hope it all works out for you x

Jaz, thanks for the acupuncture advice. And yay for taking your last doss of soy fingers crossed it works for you this cycle x

AFM, finally got the date for my HSG xray (to checked for blocked tubes etc). Pleased because it's the final test I need to have done before my follow up in August, but annoyed that it is on CD22. I have to abstain until then, and at least the day after. Earliest I've ever Ov'd is CD21, it's usually (I use that term loosely) around CD25 to CD35 but since TTC it's been creeping further into the 40's.
Kinda worried that if I take soy again this cycle it will bring my ov further forward and I will end up missing my ov date. Grrrrr

 

[Bubbles_75]

hey ladies got the blood test results back from the dr and NEGATIVE!!! how the F can that be?? a perfectly positive wee test and a negative blood test!!! this has done my head in and now have the shits majorly!!! not happy!!!

Elliots.mum. FYI, there is a difference in the betas that are done at the drs. office. Some are qualitative and some are quantitative. The qual. are like the home pregnancy tests you use at home. They are basically a total waste of money as the have the same sensitivity level as the ones you purchase at the local drug store. They get a pos. or neg. result, and is solely up to the "eyesight" of the tech reading it, or lack thereof. These tests can usually be used for both urine and blood and in my personal experience with my 2 kids, they picked up HCG in my urine first, but was neg. for blood on the same day. I always learned that the blood level was higher before it spilled over into the urine, but was not the case in either one of my pregnancies....and working in the lab, we experiment ALOT!! So don't always believe everything you hear!! The other type is the quantitative. This is the level you have drawn that tells you if you have a viable pregnancy. Hence, you have blood draws every other day or so and the levels should increase accordingly. This type gives you a NUMBER vs. the pos/neg. Much more of a reliable indicator of pregnancy. So.....it is very possible that you could still be pregnant and it just doesn't show up quite yet. Exactly the reason that I NEVER go in for any form of pregnancy test before you are technically LATE. Not that it is easy to wait....but it will usually save you a lot of money. Hoping for good news for you.....best of luck.

 

[LovePurple]

Sorry to just jump in here, but I hear you ladies are VERY knowledgeable about soy iso and I'd love to hear your experiences.
My husband and I want to start TTC but I haven't had AF in about 7 months. I have a drs appt scheduled for august to look further into it, but I believe it's from being an extreme athlete. I've cut back on my training and hoping things will kick back in. In the mean time, do you think taking soy iso would help? Also, do you just take the 2 a day as recommended on the bottle or do you dose different. I noticed in one thread you're to only take it certain days through your cycle, but as I don't really have a cycle, not sure how to do that...

 

[debzie]

hello love purple and welcome.

This is one of the original articals on soy.

https://fertility-challenged.blogspot.com/2008/07/soy-isoflavones-natural-clomid.html

If you are not having periods then I would say you cannot take it, I think that it would do more damage than good. I even know of ladies on here who have really long cycles or do not ovulate and they have taken it and just made matters worse. As you know us ladies need a certain percentage of body fat in order to regulate hormone production. See what your doc says. Good luck.

 

[happyshopper]

Welcome Lovepurple, I agree with Debzie, I am not sure it will work for you at the moment. FX cutting down the training will help a lot in regulating your cycle. Good luck xxx
Hi Debzie, I hope you are doing ok. FX you cycle will go back to normal soon xxx

 

[prettymachine]

Sorry to just jump in here, but I hear you ladies are VERY knowledgeable about soy iso and I'd love to hear your experiences.
My husband and I want to start TTC but I haven't had AF in about 7 months. I have a drs appt scheduled for august to look further into it, but I believe it's from being an extreme athlete. I've cut back on my training and hoping things will kick back in. In the mean time, do you think taking soy iso would help? Also, do you just take the 2 a day as recommended on the bottle or do you dose different. I noticed in one thread you're to only take it certain days through your cycle, but as I don't really have a cycle, not sure how to do that...

ive known a few ladies that had no cycle, and the only thing that could make them have their AF was birth control. which isnt going to help you get pregnant at all, but may restart your cycles so you can go back off and TTC!

 

[debzie]

hello back happyshopper I hope so too. x

 

[Bride2b]

Congrats Elliott's Mum, hope it's a sticky bean..!

I had my scan on Monday, by this point the severe pains I'd be having in my left ovary had stopped. The outcome was that they believed I'd had a ruptured cyst, but that it had 'sorted itself out'. Good news I suppose and just glad the pain has gone. However, one major downer was that the sonographer said my uterine lining was 2mm thick. My heart sank because it should be thickest just before your period and this day was 13dpo (which turned out to be the last day of my cycle, AF got me this afternoon). So not only is it another BFN this month, but my lining is so thin (due to low estrogen I assume) that I could never have gotten pregnant anyway. I felt utterly depressed yesterday and today, but now with AF's arrival I need to focus on next cycle

I'm thinking I'll give soy another go, but maybe CD5-9 instead as my cycle was still really long on soy. I need to thinken my lining though, anyone have any suggestions? From what I've read Red Raspberry Leaf tea and Fish oil tablets are a good place to start? x x

when my best friend had a ruptured cyst she thought her appendix burst, did yours feel like that?

i'm sorry AF got you

i was drinking red raspberry leaf the cycle i got my +...i def recommend it! as a bonus, its delicious! just remember once you get a + to stop taking it... as it can be a labor inducer, which in early pregnancy would mean mc =/ i cant wait until i need to induce labor and can drink it again!

With the RRLT when is best to drink it? I've not tried this yet but think it would be a good idea - as trying everything else! I am on CD13 and can get some tomorrow when I should be getting a high reading on the CBFM.

also when is best for acupuncture? I have considered this too but am a bit scared xx

 

[debzie]

Hello bride2b
I have bought mine today went for the capsules that you can if you wish break open and drink as a tea. I was told by the lady in the shop that you can take it all through your cycle but stop when you get a positive pregnancy test she also recommended agnus castus as this can help regulate progesterone. I know some women dont wish to take that risk and so stop after ovulation or in the few days of tww. Happyshopper is our resident acupuncture specialist.

I am going to rattle when I take the Soy lol.

 

[Bubbles_75]

Just wanted to update the forum with another SOY SUCCESS STORY. I have been following the thread for a couple of months. Read every post, but rarely if ever reply. But I have had a rough go with getting pregnant as many of us on here have. So, I decided I would give the soy a go ahead. Got a + on my first round of soy. Took it days 2-7, (just for a little extra boost)120,160,160,200,200,200, and no side effects besides mild cramping since ovulation day. I have also been taking Fresh Royal Jelly which is awesome for improving egg quality, and so have been taking that for the last 3 months as well as Maca Root. For best results they are to be taken for 3 months as that is how long it takes for your eggs to mature from start to finish. I've recommended both to friends of mine that were having trouble conceiving and about 75% of them have gotten pregnanct so far. Some using fertility drugs, and some not and even a few with PCOS. We have been trying to get pregnant for 2 years and have had 3 miscarriages in that time frame. I've done quite a bit of research on multiple supplements and have noticed a huge difference in my cycles since starting all of my pill popping. Not sure if I can attribute my success to the RJ, Maca, or the Soy, but as long as it's a positive, does it really matter what worked the best? I've been on a mission!!

Can't wait to find out how many are in there. I work in a Birthing Center, and the doctors are awesome about giving you free ultrasounds and pregnancy advice. We "practice" alot with the U/S machine so it shouldn't be long before I find out what's growing in there!! Since I rarely get pregnancy symptoms besides the bloat, I get VERY impatient waiting for my belly to grow!! Usually my butt blows up first....then the tummy!! I feel kind of bad as I've been very reluctant to be happy thus far......don't want to count my chickens before they've hatched. Is it possible for me to have an uneventful non-complicated pregnancy for once??

 

[poppy666]

Congratulations Bubbles_75 happy and healthy 9mths

 

[prettymachine]

Congrats Elliott's Mum, hope it's a sticky bean..!

I had my scan on Monday, by this point the severe pains I'd be having in my left ovary had stopped. The outcome was that they believed I'd had a ruptured cyst, but that it had 'sorted itself out'. Good news I suppose and just glad the pain has gone. However, one major downer was that the sonographer said my uterine lining was 2mm thick. My heart sank because it should be thickest just before your period and this day was 13dpo (which turned out to be the last day of my cycle, AF got me this afternoon). So not only is it another BFN this month, but my lining is so thin (due to low estrogen I assume) that I could never have gotten pregnant anyway. I felt utterly depressed yesterday and today, but now with AF's arrival I need to focus on next cycle

I'm thinking I'll give soy another go, but maybe CD5-9 instead as my cycle was still really long on soy. I need to thinken my lining though, anyone have any suggestions? From what I've read Red Raspberry Leaf tea and Fish oil tablets are a good place to start? x x

when my best friend had a ruptured cyst she thought her appendix burst, did yours feel like that?

i'm sorry AF got you

i was drinking red raspberry leaf the cycle i got my +...i def recommend it! as a bonus, its delicious! just remember once you get a + to stop taking it... as it can be a labor inducer, which in early pregnancy would mean mc =/ i cant wait until i need to induce labor and can drink it again!

With the RRLT when is best to drink it? I've not tried this yet but think it would be a good idea - as trying everything else! I am on CD13 and can get some tomorrow when I should be getting a high reading on the CBFM.

also when is best for acupuncture? I have considered this too but m a bit scared xx

i drank mine every evening...no real meaning behind when... it was winter and cold so it felt right then i took mine through my TWW and stopped as soon as i got my +...much too my dismay--it was delicious!