Soy Isoflavones! Natures Clomid!

[poppy666]

Some people never get a positive opk for some reason,maybe thats what happens to you but if you temp you will know yourself if ovulation occurred.

 

[lucyoz34]

Didn't know that! So I'm not just weird won't bother stressing with them again them, temps seem really reliable.

 

[poppy666]

lol no your not weird ive read it on here many of times, can also depend which one's you use too, but if you do use them again bear in mind Soy can either delay, bring forward or stay the same day for ovulation.

 

[lucyoz34]

Gotcha, I timed the soy so that the ov date hopefully wouldn't be effected, which it doesn't seem to have been luckily. Had huge ov pains this cycle, never had that before. I think it was ov pain anyway, never felt it before!

 

[poppy666]

Good at least you know its working

 

[Jaz78]

elliots mum - that sucks sorry

lucy - when i tried using opks i got positives when i wasnt Oing and a negative when i was! (and i conceived my daughter on that negative so i know i definitely was!) They just dont work for some people. I dont use them now.

I think I am Oing today (i can usually tell when i am), and also have no fertile CM, which is unfortunately common for me, but i think i feel even drier than usual. I am considering taking evening primrose oil next cycle.

on the upside though, it is only CD15!!!! i have never had a 4 week cycle so this is absolutely awesome!!!!!! I dont usually O before CD30 and sometimes a hell of a lot higher than that. On the down side, we are unable to DTD atm so it is kinda wasted. typical that i finally get a shorter cycle when it is not possible to make use of it!

 

[prettymachine]

congrats Kaede!!!! that is awesome news!!

elliots mum - i have been wondering whats happening with you?

I am CD13, finished soy on CD7. no symptoms of O or any CM or anything. I'm wondering whether soy is going to do anything. i usually dont O until at least CD28, so i guess even if soy makes a difference, i may still have awhile to wait yet

hey jaz not much on my end... AF arrived on CD32 really didnt think it was possible to get a FALSE BFP on pee stick

i dont think you can... seems to me you had a chemical... im sorry HOWEVER i know MANY women will have a chemical one cycle and their following cycle they get their + that sticks! *fingers crossed* for you!

 

[FragileDoll]

I've never used them, neither I knew what they actually were until I came across this thread. My OV are quite normal but would give it a try somewhere in the future if needed for sure.

 

[pink mum]

hello girls how are u all

 

[lucyoz34]

Jazz I Ov'd yesterday I think, and like you had zero fertile cm, which I normally do, but I was taking evening primrose, on someone's advice, hoping it would increase cm. I think like the opk's, for some they work, for dome they don't! Worth a try though. Did you time Bd'ing well??
Might be your cycle if you've had a strong definite Ov !

I guess I'm in the vile 2ww! Just not sure we Bd'd enough...

 

[poppy666]

I read pink grapefruit is good for CM.

 

[lucyoz34]

That sounds so random lol!! Thank you though x

 

[poppy666]

lol it did didnt it never tried it dont like grapefruit, just relied on preseed to do the job.

 

[lucyoz34]

I picked some of that stuff up you recommended up from boots at least it's guaranteed the right stuff!!

 

[ann89]

Have any of you ladies heared of using soy with a underactive thyroid? My dr. said mine is in the normal range but on the low side.

 

[meechan]

Just wanna ask will iso increase the risk of miscarriage? And some people say that it will cause severe headache. If yes, how do you guys get through it?

 

[prettymachine]

Just wanna ask will iso increase the risk of miscarriage? And some people say that it will cause severe headache. If yes, how do you guys get through it?

i didnt get any headaches, but i took it right before bed... i think that taking them before bed is the key to not getting the side effects.

as far as it increasing miscarriage risk, thats only if you take it too long. they say if you take it longer than 2 months/2 cycles it can do more harm than good. but for the first 2 cycles it helps!

 

[Jaz78]

Have any of you ladies heared of using soy with a underactive thyroid? My dr. said mine is in the normal range but on the low side.

i read somewhere that it isnt suitable for people with thyroid problems. who knows for sure though.

Just wanna ask will iso increase the risk of miscarriage? And some people say that it will cause severe headache. If yes, how do you guys get through it?

i got headaches but not severe. it wasnt a big deal. they actually got less worse every day. i took them before bed as well.

Jazz I Ov'd yesterday I think, and like you had zero fertile cm, which I normally do, but I was taking evening primrose, on someone's advice, hoping it would increase cm. I think like the opk's, for some they work, for dome they don't! Worth a try though. Did you time Bd'ing well??
Might be your cycle if you've had a strong definite Ov !

I guess I'm in the vile 2ww! Just not sure we Bd'd enough...

We havent been able to BD for various reasons completely outside our control SO typical. the one time i dont O way late, we arent able to take advantage of it. I'm not 100% that i o'd yesterday since my temp didnt go up much this morning. it certainly felt like it though and i have even less cm than yesterday so im not ruling it out yet. I'm trying to just think of the positive though, that at least my cycle may be shorter so there is more chance of me getting utd necxt month... usually if i miss O it is so devastating because the next one is so far away. 4 weeks, i can cope with!

 

[debzie]

Have any of you ladies heared of using soy with a underactive thyroid? My dr. said mine is in the normal range but on the low side.

Hi hun I found this when I was trawling the internet. turns out that you should avoid it if you have thyroid problems.
https://www.livestrong.com/article/402819-the-effects-of-soy-on-the-thyroid/

I too had a lack of fertile cm the cycle I got my BFP but used preseed and it did the trick.

I would be interested if anyone could find any info on soy iso and miscarriage but I do not see how it could? I f anything having been to first tri forums and back again I would say the miscarriage rate in this thread alone is far less.

 

[ann89]

Thanks Debzie.