Soy Isoflavones! Natures Clomid!

i dunno what it is with this soy stuff but its working for me....just got my smiley on cd15...didnt think i would O until next week!

Is this your first month on Soy? I'm testing w/ OPK's & I still have a long way to go till they're positive, but they are already getting a little darker :happydance: i usually O around CD 20-22.. exciting!
 
yes this is my first cycle using soy and i have no complaints at all! im never really sure when i O so it was nice to see a smiley!
 
Well, yet another update without a BFP. I went ahead and bought three different kinds of pregnancy tests last night since I was getting BFNs on the ICs and FRERs. I tested this morning with the Target brand and still got a BFN even though I'm supposedly 17dpo. SO - I've manually overridden my FF Ovulation Chart (link below) to show that I ovulated at CD24 even though that doesn't coincide with my positive OPK or fertile CM. There's no other explanation that I can think of to warrant still getting negatives instead of a positive. That makes me 9dpo with no implantation dip and my lowest ever post-ovulation temps. But the main reason I think I probably didn't ovulate until this date is that :sex: usually hurts for me after ovulation and it didn't start hurting until after this temp rise. I'm positively confoozled but not going to stress about it anymore. I'm expecting AF to arrive next week on Thursday and won't be the slightest bit surprised when she does! Hugs to everyone TTC! Congrats to all those with BFPs!
 
Hi ladies,

So I might have to take a break from TTC as i may be getting surgery later next year. Decided I might give another cycle or two a try and then if nothing happens I will be forced to stop for probably 2 years :cry:.

ANYWAYS - I have some spotting going on so I assume AF is on her way.... FINALLY! Its been a long cycle.

So, I need to decide if to soy or not to soy??? :shrug:. Thing is... the last two cycles I have taken soy 120mg and they have been particularly long...even for me, but I definitely OV'd on my last cycle (first cycle of soy), even got a +opk which is rare. So trying to decide if to try soy and risk the long cycle, or if to leave it and see what happens. IF i do take soy on my next cycle I am really going to step up my dose. I have a very high BMI and I have been reading that you should start on a higher dose of clomid if you have a high BMI, so I am thinking that I might not have been taking enough soy?? I am thinking of stepping it up to anywhere between 200mg - 250mg?? Too much??

Thoughts??
 
OMG Prettymachine! I can't believe you're 34 weeks already!!! Where the hell has all the time gone! xoxo
 
OMG Prettymachine! I can't believe you're 34 weeks already!!! Where the hell has all the time gone! xoxo

OMG i cant believe you are 22 weeks! i know, it has gone fast! and i am so over being pregnant lol!
 
Lisa i personally wouldnt go over 200mg's sweetie, thats 100mg's of Clomid... maybe 160mg 160mg then up to 200mg's :thumbup:
 
Lisa i personally wouldnt go over 200mg's sweetie, thats 100mg's of Clomid... maybe 160mg 160mg then up to 200mg's :thumbup:

Thanks for the advice poppy. The reason I had considered it was because a women who has a similar BMI to mines had said that her FS had started her on 100mg due to her weight. Apparently lower doses doesn't work in women with such a high BMI. :shrug:. That said... I will probably take your advice and keep to 200mg or under:thumbup:.
 
Hello ladies. I would like to join you on this thread but am a bit daunted by its length! So far I have only read the first 10 pages then skipped to the end. Can you help me....?

Here's my story. My DS was born in 2008 when I was 40; I had had 2 mc before conceiving him and, at my age, I was sure that my life was complete when he was born. However, at the beginning of 2010 I started to long for a sibling for him and after 6 months of ttc (last 2 months temping), at the age of 42, we were delighted to get happy news in September 2010. At 12+2, the day before my scheduled scan, I mc and we lost our baby. Most of you will be much younger than me, I'm sure, and wondering why I'm even trying at 43. I too wonder why sometimes, but the path of my life has brought me to this place in my life now and I must just deal with that as my reality.

Prior to my last mc my cycles were regular, pretty close to 28 days and with ewcm every month. I felt young and was very fit. Since the mc my life has changed. I am preoccupied with ttc to the point of obsession and remain so unbelievably sad that my GP has referred me for bereavement counselling. I am so blessed by my beautiful little boy but want so desperately to give him a sibling that I just cannot give this up. My cycles since the mc have been variable in length and ewcm has been scant, despite taking epo, grapefruit juice, green tea and robitussin. I feel old and weary and am running out of hope. I saw a herbalist for 6 months following the mc but that failed to yield any results and I wonder now if the tinctures I was taking actually messed up my cycle. Last month I started taking maca, along with my standard diet of prenatal, flaxseed, fish oil, B complex and raspberry leaf. I have stopped taking EPO this cycle as I have read that it can reduce the follicular phase and I seem to be suffering with an unstable follicular phase just now. I am hoping that the soy will also increase my ewcm production so I may not need to rely on the epo anyway? I am also seeing a reflexologist which is soooo incredibly relaxing, as well as supposedly helping with ttc.

This month I have decided to add soy to my armoury! I don't have problems with longer cycles like some of the posts I have read on the thread so am I wasting my time with it? Please advise if I am doing the right thing: I decided to take on cd4-8. Despite the fact that I would consider twins a wonderful blessing, I figured my aged eggs would benefit from one good strong, mature follicle as opposed to multiple release. I took 160mg yesterday and plan to take the same dose today. I have read that some people increase the dose throughout the 5 day period, should I have started lower or should I increase further? Any advice gratefully received

Sorry to go on, hope you're all still awake..........x

Edit: Sorry, forgot to mention that I have under active thyroid which has been well managed without problems since 2001. I was reading further back in the thread and found someone who said that soy can disrupt thyroid function???
 
Lisa i personally wouldnt go over 200mg's sweetie, thats 100mg's of Clomid... maybe 160mg 160mg then up to 200mg's :thumbup:

Thanks for the advice poppy. The reason I had considered it was because a women who has a similar BMI to mines had said that her FS had started her on 100mg due to her weight. Apparently lower doses doesn't work in women with such a high BMI. :shrug:. That said... I will probably take your advice and keep to 200mg or under:thumbup:.

A lot of Clomid users are monitored and scanned to prevent cysts forming and the dosage upped or lowered, with Soy even tho its a natural supplement your not monitored so its better not to go over 200mg's just incase sweetie x

Hello ladies. I would like to join you on this thread but am a bit daunted by its length! So far I have only read the first 10 pages then skipped to the end. Can you help me....?

Here's my story. My DS was born in 2008 when I was 40; I had had 2 mc before conceiving him and, at my age, I was sure that my life was complete when he was born. However, at the beginning of 2010 I started to long for a sibling for him and after 6 months of ttc (last 2 months temping), at the age of 42, we were delighted to get happy news in September 2010. At 12+2, the day before my scheduled scan, I mc and we lost our baby. Most of you will be much younger than me, I'm sure, and wondering why I'm even trying at 43. I too wonder why sometimes, but the path of my life has brought me to this place in my life now and I must just deal with that as my reality.

Prior to my last mc my cycles were regular, pretty close to 28 days and with ewcm every month. I felt young and was very fit. Since the mc my life has changed. I am preoccupied with ttc to the point of obsession and remain so unbelievably sad that my GP has referred me for bereavement counselling. I am so blessed by my beautiful little boy but want so desperately to give him a sibling that I just cannot give this up. My cycles since the mc have been variable in length and ewcm has been scant, despite taking epo, grapefruit juice, green tea and robitussin. I feel old and weary and am running out of hope. I saw a herbalist for 6 months following the mc but that failed to yield any results and I wonder now if the tinctures I was taking actually messed up my cycle. Last month I started taking maca, along with my standard diet of prenatal, flaxseed, fish oil, B complex and raspberry leaf. I have stopped taking EPO this cycle as I have read that it can reduce the follicular phase and I seem to be suffering with an unstable follicular phase just now. I am hoping that the soy will also increase my ewcm production so I may not need to rely on the epo anyway? I am also seeing a reflexologist which is soooo incredibly relaxing, as well as supposedly helping with ttc.

This month I have decided to add soy to my armoury! I don't have problems with longer cycles like some of the posts I have read on the thread so am I wasting my time with it? Please advise if I am doing the right thing: I decided to take on cd4-8. Despite the fact that I would consider twins a wonderful blessing, I figured my aged eggs would benefit from one good strong, mature follicle as opposed to multiple release. I took 160mg yesterday and plan to take the same dose today. I have read that some people increase the dose throughout the 5 day period, should I have started lower or should I increase further? Any advice gratefully received

Sorry to go on, hope you're all still awake..........x

Edit: Sorry, forgot to mention that I have under active thyroid which has been well managed without problems since 2001. I was reading further back in the thread and found someone who said that soy can disrupt thyroid function???

Spoomie i dont think your age should deter you from trying for another sweetie.. i have 3 older boys aged 18, 19 & 20 then concieved 18yrs later with my 16mth old i was 40. Decided to try one more time for a play mate for my son and read about Soy. Being 40 i thought it would help with a better mature egg if anything as my cycles were very regular 28 days and as far as i was aware i ovulated every month.

First month Soy worked for me and i got loads of ewcm that cycle, sadly i suffered a missed miscarriage at 9wks so waited for my first af and tried Soy again. That cycle i got just 1 day of ewcm :shrug: but got my BFP again and here i am nearly 42 carrying a healthy girl :cloud9:

So id say dont give up and i wish you well sweetie :hugs:
 
Thanks so much Poppy, I am trying to hang on to stories like yours. I was over the moon last year but after almost a year of trying so hard to get pregnant again since mc I worry it was my last chance gone. You give me hope xxx
 
Yes can relate to that after my loss i thought it just wasnt ment to be maybe i was too old? but proved me wrong and i think if you take less supplements and try relax more whilst TTC it will happen :hugs:

I have noticed a lot of women who have gotten their BFPs havnt DTD as much that cycle so maybe less is more :winkwink: i only DTD 2 days before i ovulated and on the day of ovulation, but used Preseed both occassions.
 
Sadly, the witch got me this morning at 18dpo according to FF but I think I was only 10dpo based on cervix position.

So my new plan - I'm not temping anymore. I'm not continuing soy (it - or something - pushed my ovulation back from CD15/16 to CD24 and my LP from 14 days to 10! Plus my temps were all over the place pre-ovulation when they aren't usually). I'm not even going to track which days we BD or my CM. I'm completely addicted to BnB so I don't think I'll be able to give it up but I'm going to cut back and focus on something other than making a baby. I return to school for my teaching credential in just under two weeks and that's going to keep me crazy busy on top of it getting busier at work. I got my final test results from the "pre-conception" appointment back today though without speaking to the doctor I don't know what any of it means. Hopefully she'll call this week so we can discuss it though. She said if anything was abnormal she'd start me on Clomid right away, otherwise we have to keep trying for 3 months and take an infertility class. I also had a second blood test confirm that my Rubella titers are too low so we're going to have to take a three month break from TTC. Since OH is already a teacher, we're hoping for a summer vacation baby so we can both be home and are going to keep trying for now. In November/December we'll take a 3 month break for the vaccine and then continue trying after that. Not sure if the doctor is going to prescribe the clomid or not and unsure if I'll take it either way...kinda wanting to go all natural for a while.

Anyway, that's what's going on in my little world. Hope everyone is doing well.
 
Hey ladies,
I tried soy last cycle (100mg 3-7) it didn't work I O'd on CD38 :| so I thought I would give it a go again this cycle (150 mg 3-5 200mg 6-7) it seems to have worked but I don't know when, ff has me at 4dpo on dashed lines but i'm not convinced could someone look at my chart please? unfortunately I didn't opk this cycle as I used so many last cycle and just got fed up... Now wishing I had!

another question I have is how many cycles can you take soy for?
 
Not seen Glowstar around for a while,wondered how she was getting on?xx
 
Seen her on our other thread other day and she seems good :thumbup:
 

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