Soy Isoflavones! Natures Clomid!

If you take 80mg of Soy thats only 40mgs of Clomid so id take a bit more sweetie then up dose last two days :winkwink:
 
Hi there betheny congratulations on your soy baba and thankyou for starting this thread. I have read it from the start. I conceived my second cycle usins
g soy but sadly miscarried it moved my ov day back a day from cd 17 to 18 if i take it cd 3-7. I have known many ladies that it does move it forward a good few days. Good luck.

Yeah spoomie my temp is down this morning maybe a one off see what tomorrow brings. Tested with smu and got another bfn. X
 
Well ladies I had my surge on CD 12, and did an insem yesterday expecting a temp rise today, but it didn't happen.. Last cycle w/o soy I ovulated about the same day as my surge.. Do you think maybe I didn't ovulate this cycle because of the soy, or will it still happen???

Thanks for the help I appreciate any imput!
 
Well ladies I had my surge on CD 12, and did an insem yesterday expecting a temp rise today, but it didn't happen.. Last cycle w/o soy I ovulated about the same day as my surge.. Do you think maybe I didn't ovulate this cycle because of the soy, or will it still happen???

Thanks for the help I appreciate any imput!

Hi amommy, I'm not sure about the soy aspect, but I think you will still O. looks like your body is still gearing up. Keep bding at least every other day until your temp goes up for three consecutive days. Fx for you :hugs:
 
Hi Bethany:) thank you for starting this thread! I have just joined but I can see it has helped a lot of women! I hope that your TTC journey for #2 is a happy stress free one.

Today I started SI! I'm really excited. So far nothing has helped shorten my cycles. I haven't tried clomid yet and would like to try and avoid it. So, I took 100mg this morning and I am going to take another tonight. The bottle says only 40% isoflavones so I am assuming if I take two that will amount to 80mg SI? should I do more? I will be doing cd3-7.

:dust:

Hey

I would assume yes it's 40mg per tablet. My first tablets i took only contained 25mg so i took 4 per day and these ones are 50mg so i take 2 per day.

I used to recommend you start with a smaller one and move up, maybe this cycle try 80mg per day and if it has no effect try 120mg per day next month. But if your like me and incredible impatient i'd probably just jump up to the 120mg per day.

<3
 
Hey Behteney

Congratulations on your beautiful Eva-soy baby. Bravo for breastfeeding exclusively, it's the only way! My cycles didn't return for a year after my DS was born (it was great!) and I continued to feed him just beyond 18 months. Keep going, it's great for her! Good luck with your next soy-sibling :haha:

Thanks Lovey! BF was the best thing i ever did. I'm very proud and such a big promoter of it! I always thought i'd go to 12months but am contemplating longer now.

Welcome back Betheney and Eva is soooo cute :hugs:

Been quite a few women get their BFP since off Soy, me twice and cant wait to meet my little girl :cloud9:

I know you would be able to buy Soy off Amazon.com for Australia if you struggle again :thumbup: good luck x

Thanks missus, i have a million photos of Eva on my journal but she is a bit of a cutie.

Congratulations on your bubba!!! oh how i would love to be a preggo eggo again. I'm so glad we've had alot of BFPs on the soy, i know the first time around i couldn't really find THAT much information.

I was going to try online but it wasn't going to arrive before this current cycle and i couldn't bear waiting 45 days to have another chance.

Hi there betheny congratulations on your soy baba and thankyou for starting this thread. I have read it from the start. I conceived my second cycle usins
g soy but sadly miscarried it moved my ov day back a day from cd 17 to 18 if i take it cd 3-7. I have known many ladies that it does move it forward a good few days. Good luck.

Yeah spoomie my temp is down this morning maybe a one off see what tomorrow brings. Tested with smu and got another bfn. X

Hey honey. I'm sorry about your miscarriage. So it moved yours back a day? how much were you taking? do you think you should take less or more to move it forward rather than backward?

LOVE
 
Betheney, like you, I never realised I'd become a militant breast feeder! but I am so proud that I gave my little man the best possible start, despite the fact it was very difficult and painful at first (he was jaundiced and was very reluctant to wake up and feed, therefore latched poorly, and therefore caused me great pain!!) and I was under a lot of pressure from health visitors to 'top up' with formula, just to satisfy their desire to see his weight curve shoot up on the chart, something which just doesn't really happen for BF babies. He and I persevered and I am so proud that I resisted their 'advice' and stuck with what I know was best for him, and they actually contributed to making me stick at it!

Sorry to digress from the thread, ladies
 
Thanks betheny I took 160mg for the first four days then increased to 200mg the last two. With a lower dose 120mg then upping to 160 mg cd 2-6 ov stayed the same. Thinks its maybe the days you take it rather than the dose but I am no expert.

Soomie don't apologise it is an achievement breastfeeding for so long.

AFM temp dropped again just waiting for the witch. Going to think long and hard what i am doing next cycle. Give soy another go?
 
AFM temp dropped again just waiting for the witch. Going to think long and hard what i am doing next cycle. Give soy another go?

Oh Debzie, so sorry, I hate that evil witch :hugs::hugs:

Don't think I'll be far behind you, my temp hasn't really dropped convincingly yet, but it's certainly not rising as I always dream of seeing, it's just yo-yoing a bit, kind of taunting me!
 
The witch got me.

Spoomie if you look at my chart the one I got my bfp it was my lowest ever post ov temps and kind of yo yod too I was convinced I was out. There is still a chance chick. I'm not too disappointment onwards we go. X
 
The witch got me.

Spoomie if you look at my chart the one I got my bfp it was my lowest ever post ov temps and kind of yo yod too I was convinced I was out. There is still a chance chick. I'm not too disappointment onwards we go. X

Thanks Debzie for shining a ray of hope on my chart!As I seem to spend a quarter of the month saying, 'We'll see what tomorrow brings'! Sorry she got you, this is soooo hard, isn't it? :hugs:
 
Hi Bethany:) thank you for starting this thread! I have just joined but I can see it has helped a lot of women! I hope that your TTC journey for #2 is a happy stress free one.

Today I started SI! I'm really excited. So far nothing has helped shorten my cycles. I haven't tried clomid yet and would like to try and avoid it. So, I took 100mg this morning and I am going to take another tonight. The bottle says only 40% isoflavones so I am assuming if I take two that will amount to 80mg SI? should I do more? I will be doing cd3-7.

:dust:

Hey

I would assume yes it's 40mg per tablet. My first tablets i took only contained 25mg so i took 4 per day and these ones are 50mg so i take 2 per day.

I used to recommend you start with a smaller one and move up, maybe this cycle try 80mg per day and if it has no effect try 120mg per day next month. But if your like me and incredible impatient i'd probably just jump up to the 120mg per day.

<3

Thanks for the advice:) I ended up taking 120mg yesterday, I am a bit impatient :blush: I figured I have long cycles so I should try more. :thumpup: I definitely don't want to wait another 60 days to O!
 
The witch got me.

Spoomie if you look at my chart the one I got my bfp it was my lowest ever post ov temps and kind of yo yod too I was convinced I was out. There is still a chance chick. I'm not too disappointment onwards we go. X

so sorry! xx
 
Thanks ladies but seems as though the witch is toying with me. Tmi alert. Passed a clot with pink mucus following though oh shes here and used a tampon. I am isually really heavy but hardly anything today and ive just got spotting now. Don't know what to do as i do not have full flow? Am I right to put in just spotting or light? Thanks in advance. Usually it wouldnot matter but it foes when your taking soy?
 
Thanks ladies but seems as though the witch is toying with me. Tmi alert. Passed a clot with pink mucus following though oh shes here and used a tampon. I am isually really heavy but hardly anything today and ive just got spotting now. Don't know what to do as i do not have full flow? Am I right to put in just spotting or light? Thanks in advance. Usually it wouldnot matter but it foes when your taking soy?

COULD be implantation! or could be your body making everything more difficult for you! my body was doing that the last couple months TTC and i had NO idea what to count as CD1...never really got an answer either!
 
Thanks prettymachine funily enough the cycle I got my last bfp this happened then i had full flow the next day. think its just my body having a laugh. x
 
Hi all!

I've been directed by Spoomie to check out this thread. I have to say that after reading the first 30 or so pages, I am VERY intrigued with soy.

A little history:

First of all, I'm 40 and never been PG. I stopped BC last October, but continued to prevent using foam until mid-January. We've been TTC since then with no luck. Not only that, but for one reason or another, I have never been able to track an O. FF shows that I had a possible O in March and June, but both cycles ended up being SUPER long. I'm using a CBFM for the third time, but I've never gotten anything but highs. I am also temping - I'm on day 5 of that.

I am hoping for a solid trackable cycle this month. My CBFM went from low yesterday to high today. I also started taking Vitex this month and today will be day 15. I know it takes a while to kick in.

I have been afraid of soy because I always hear that it really screws up some cycles. Mine are pretty screwed up anyway. I'll have a great normal"ish" cycle, get my hopes up that I'm normalizing, and then it's immediately followed by a really long cycle. Honestly, my secret fear is that I'm pre-menopausal.

So, I'm thinking of trying soy after all now, when this cycle is over, especially if I can't track an O again.

Thanks Spoomie, for directing me here!
 
Hi Shelley!

Well done to you for getting through the first 30 pages! I managed about 10 and then had to skip to the end in the hope that I'd pick it up as I went along! Unbelievably, there is someone who joined in the last couple of pages (sorry, can't remember who it was) who read the whole thing - amazing!!!

I really hope that soy can help you, but a word of warning, it's not compatible with vitex, apparently. So if you do decide to take it next cycle (hopefully you won't need it) then don't combine it with the vitex. x
 
Hi all!

I've been directed by Spoomie to check out this thread. I have to say that after reading the first 30 or so pages, I am VERY intrigued with soy.

A little history:

First of all, I'm 40 and never been PG. I stopped BC last October, but continued to prevent using foam until mid-January. We've been TTC since then with no luck. Not only that, but for one reason or another, I have never been able to track an O. FF shows that I had a possible O in March and June, but both cycles ended up being SUPER long. I'm using a CBFM for the third time, but I've never gotten anything but highs. I am also temping - I'm on day 5 of that.

I am hoping for a solid trackable cycle this month. My CBFM went from low yesterday to high today. I also started taking Vitex this month and today will be day 15. I know it takes a while to kick in.

I have been afraid of soy because I always hear that it really screws up some cycles. Mine are pretty screwed up anyway. I'll have a great normal"ish" cycle, get my hopes up that I'm normalizing, and then it's immediately followed by a really long cycle. Honestly, my secret fear is that I'm pre-menopausal.

So, I'm thinking of trying soy after all now, when this cycle is over, especially if I can't track an O again.

Thanks Spoomie, for directing me here!

Hi Shelley :hi:
I too have messed up cycles, long and irregular. I was taking vitex too, but I am too impatient, like you said it takes vitex awhile to have an effect on your cycles. Also you shouldn't take vitex and soy at the same time because they cancel each other out. I've also read that it takes a little while for vitex to get out of your system.
This is my first cycle on soy, 120mg a day. For 5 days and I'm on day two.

GL to you!
 
Hi Shelley!

Well done to you for getting through the first 30 pages! I managed about 10 and then had to skip to the end in the hope that I'd pick it up as I went along! Unbelievably, there is someone who joined in the last couple of pages (sorry, can't remember who it was) who read the whole thing - amazing!!!

I really hope that soy can help you, but a word of warning, it's not compatible with vitex, apparently. So if you do decide to take it next cycle (hopefully you won't need it) then don't combine it with the vitex. x


Yeah, I read enough to find out that you shouldn't take both. So, if nothing happens this cycle (O or BFP), then I'll ditch the Vitex and try soy for a cycle. I figure at this point (9 months in) and having super crazy cycles, that it surely can't hurt!
 

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