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[debzie]

Hi shelly and welcome. I took vitex following my miscarriage and I think it worked straight away in regulating my hormones. I stopped it when I got my first af so I could take soy. I have heard many success stories from vitex alone so good luck to you. If not hope to see you here next cycle.

 

[Spoomie]

Thanks ladies but seems as though the witch is toying with me. Tmi alert. Passed a clot with pink mucus following though oh shes here and used a tampon. I am isually really heavy but hardly anything today and ive just got spotting now. Don't know what to do as i do not have full flow? Am I right to put in just spotting or light? Thanks in advance. Usually it wouldnot matter but it foes when your taking soy?

Hi Debzie

Maybe she hasn't got you after all! I think you are right to put it down as spotting. The rule of thumb that I have read is that cd1 is the first day you need protection above and beyond a pantyliner. Sounds like you're not there yet? Crossing everything for a temp rise and a 'quiet' day tomorrow!

 

[debzie]

Thanks spoomie think I am going to go with spotting today and if I have full flow tomorrow count it as cd1. Nothing it ever easy when ttc. x

 

[Tallmom2b]

Can I ask what symptoms you ladies may be having while taking soy? This is day 2 for me and I think it's making me tired? If I stay busy and moving around i feel better though. Maybe it's just in my head? Thanks

 

[Betheney]

i usually just get massive headaches the first month i use it then every month after that i'm fine. When i was TTC DD the first month my head was exploding then i was fine every month after that. Now i'm TTC no.2 last month the headaches were bad and this month nothing.

 

[Betheney]

Hi all!

I've been directed by Spoomie to check out this thread. I have to say that after reading the first 30 or so pages, I am VERY intrigued with soy.

A little history:

First of all, I'm 40 and never been PG. I stopped BC last October, but continued to prevent using foam until mid-January. We've been TTC since then with no luck. Not only that, but for one reason or another, I have never been able to track an O. FF shows that I had a possible O in March and June, but both cycles ended up being SUPER long. I'm using a CBFM for the third time, but I've never gotten anything but highs. I am also temping - I'm on day 5 of that.

I am hoping for a solid trackable cycle this month. My CBFM went from low yesterday to high today. I also started taking Vitex this month and today will be day 15. I know it takes a while to kick in.

I have been afraid of soy because I always hear that it really screws up some cycles. Mine are pretty screwed up anyway. I'll have a great normal"ish" cycle, get my hopes up that I'm normalizing, and then it's immediately followed by a really long cycle. Honestly, my secret fear is that I'm pre-menopausal.

So, I'm thinking of trying soy after all now, when this cycle is over, especially if I can't track an O again.

Thanks Spoomie, for directing me here!

Alot of the information out there saying soy screws with cycles usually is talking about taking soy your whole cycle which yes does screw it up. I know soy has something to do with tricking out bodies into thinking it's creating a small amount of a certain hormone or something and then once we stop taking the soy (after 5 days) you get a big surge which creates the nice eggies and Ov. If you don't stop taking the soy you don't get that surge or you miss it or something like that

good luck

 

[poppy666]

I just got random headaches both times i took the Soy nothing else. First one i got loads of ewcm and ov'd on CD18 ( 28 days cycle) 2nd time only got one day of ewcm and ovulated on CD10 ( 26 day cycle after MMC).

 

[Shelley71]

Thanks Betheney! I think next cycle, I'll take it CD5-9. It seems, from what I've read, that ladies with long cycles (like me) do better when they take it those last few days. Correct me if I'm wrong, please?

 

[Betheney]

i've heard that taking it early raises the chances of creating multiple eggs meaning if you want twins (although i don't think we have many if any mulitples yet on this thread not that i've really looked into it) and taking it later i've heard increases the quality of the one egg that was going to be that cycles egg. So i guess it does make sense.

but hang on..... do i even make sense there??? :-/

 

[sammy1205]

I'm in my TWW after taking soy this cycle. I took it CD1-5. I had a twin ectopic earlier this year surgery 03/01/2011, no tune loss. then I got a BFP the end of May that ended in natural MC at 5W3. I was using OPK only and it seemed I had a 27 day cycle and O on CD15. I would get stark white OPKs, then on CD15 + OPK, (for me a tad lighter than the control, then CD16 stark white, so I think I O on my +OPK day.
I started taking the B complex to help lengthen the LP. This cycle with soy I O on CD13, confirmed by FF and got my +OPK on CD12, it still was not as dark as the control line, but I backed it up with a CBE digi and got a smiley CD13 am was the same not as dark as the CL on SMU, then negative in the afternoon. So it did bring O earlier by 2 days. I took it at night before bed and got headaches. That is it. We will see if it gets me a BFP. I seem to get preggo easy enough, it is a sticky bean, in the right place I am having the problem with.

 

[Shelley71]

i've heard that taking it early raises the chances of creating multiple eggs meaning if you want twins (although i don't think we have many if any mulitples yet on this thread not that i've really looked into it) and taking it later i've heard increases the quality of the one egg that was going to be that cycles egg. So i guess it does make sense.

but hang on..... do i even make sense there??? :-/

That makes perfect sense to me! Although I would love to have twins at this point (over and done), I think the idea of having a great egg overrides anything else. Thanks!

 

[Betheney]

i'm obsessed with twins!! I want them so much. I don't know why i just do. lol.

 

[BeautifulD]

Well the witch got me this morning ladies, strangely for me she's come with a vengance, I had to strip the bed this morning, that NEVER happens

 

[Betheney]

Well the witch got me this morning ladies, strangely for me she's come with a vengance, I had to strip the bed this morning, that NEVER happens

Oh wow that sucks!!! My husband doesn't know my cycles have returned as i haven't told him (please don't judge) and the jig would be up if that happened to me. lol.

BTW he doesn't know they're back but he thinks we are just NTNP where as i'm more TTC, so he's happy to have a baby but he just told me he doesn't want to TTC he just wants to not use protection and if it happens then thats good. I think because it was so stressfull last time and i was such a psycho and it was a really intense time because i felt everything was against us. I said to him tonight "i know my cycles aren't back but how about we have sex every 2nd day until we make a baby?" and he replied "okay"

This may sound like no big deal to others because most husbands want sex 24/7 but mine doesn't!! in fact now we have Eva we only have sex a couple of time a month so once i start trying to have sex 4 days in a row he's going to know what i'm doing. So i'm really excited about this every 2nd day thing as that should help my chances heaps and the biggest stress i have around TTC is getting him to actually have SEX!!!

 

[poppy666]

We have actually got Soy twins cooking atm... Spellfairy having twin boys

 

[Tallmom2b]

Well the witch got me this morning ladies, strangely for me she's come with a vengance, I had to strip the bed this morning, that NEVER happens

Oh wow that sucks!!! My husband doesn't know my cycles have returned as i haven't told him (please don't judge) and the jig would be up if that happened to me. lol.

BTW he doesn't know they're back but he thinks we are just NTNP where as i'm more TTC, so he's happy to have a baby but he just told me he doesn't want to TTC he just wants to not use protection and if it happens then thats good. I think because it was so stressfull last time and i was such a psycho and it was a really intense time because i felt everything was against us. I said to him tonight "i know my cycles aren't back but how about we have sex every 2nd day until we make a baby?" and he replied "okay"


This may sound like no big deal to others because most husbands want sex 24/7 but mine doesn't!! in fact now we have Eva we only have sex a couple of time a month so once i start trying to have sex 4 days in a row he's going to know what i'm doing. So i'm really excited about this every 2nd day thing as that should help my chances heaps and the biggest stress i have around TTC is getting him to actually have SEX!!!

Sorry to hear AF got you beautiful fx for you for next cycle! Maybe bleeding is so much because you had a nice endometrium built up? Thats a good thing right?

Bethany, I also think getting dh to have sex stressful too. We also go a couple weeks with out bd. But lately it's been better. Which is good, cuz I don't need anymore stress! But every other day is great! That would definitely do the trick. Plus it let's those swimmers build back up again
We bd 3 days before I O'd and I got preggo, but unfortunately it ended in a chemical
Fx for you!!

 

[BeautifulD]

Sorry to hear AF got you beautiful fx for you for next cycle! Maybe bleeding is so much because you had a nice endometrium built up? Thats a good thing right?

Thats what I was thinking, or maybe a chemical as I was getting lines for a few days, I guess I will never know. I wont be trying soy again this cycle as that was my second in a row, I'm hoping though that it has given my cycles the kick start that they need fingers crossed! if not I shall give vitex a go maybe

 

[debzie]

Beautiful so sorry the witch turned up. I too now have full flow so counting today as cd 1.

With me getting oh to have sex is not problem my problem is he works away from home so some months are a none starter like this month. I am set to ovulate cd 17-18 which Is a wednesday Thursday coyld do with delaying ov or bringing it forward to the weekends. Oh well maybe fate will imtervene?

 

[BeautifulD]

Good luck Debzie
I too am on CD 1 today

 

[debzie]

Thanks beautifull good luck to you too hope you stay. on the thread even though you are taking your soy break. X