Sperm Meets Egg Plan Chatter thread!

[wantingagirl]

New Mummy so so sorry and will miss you lots. Amethyst yay to lots of GL for this cycle xxx

As for me had a blob of pink cm when went to toilet and thought was early AF then nothing but not getting my hopes up

 

[ttcstill]

New Mummy so so sorry and will miss you lots. Amethyst yay to lots of GL for this cycle xxx

As for me had a blob of pink cm when went to toilet and thought was early AF then nothing but not getting my hopes up

OHHHHHHHHH I have everything crossed for you hun!!!

 

[wantingagirl]

New Mummy so so sorry and will miss you lots. Amethyst yay to lots of GL for this cycle xxx

As for me had a blob of pink cm when went to toilet and thought was early AF then nothing but not getting my hopes up

OHHHHHHHHH I have everything crossed for you hun!!!

Thanks hun.... I never got this with my last pregnacy but my hubby being the calm man that he is said every one is different. I tested this morning BFN so wondering if that is too early?? That was yesterday at 5pm this morning had a couple of blobs of brown blood mixed with ewcm and nothing else. Im still not looking too much into it as sods law body playing tricks on me xxx

 

[ttcstill]

I was BFN at 9 and BFP at 10 but everyone is different so you may get yours tomorrow..... does it feel like af is on her way?

 

[amethyst77]

Hi can I ask a (stupid) question???
I got a pos opk yesterday, so do I stop testing now, or should I still test today to see if I am still ov'ing??
Ta
xx

 

[ale]

When does implantation take place?
One such relatively recent study tells us that implantation does not always take place on day 7 after ovulation. In fact it very rarely does. This study by AJ Wilcox (1) accurately determined the day of implantation by very sensitive pregnancy test (HCG) measurement compared to ovulation.
HCGhormonestarts being produced when the pregnancy implants into the uterine lining. The findings in normal women trying to conceive included:
first appearance of HCG (implantation) occurred 6-12 days after ovulation
84% of the pregnancies implanted on days 8-10 after ovulation
earlypregnancylossincreased with later implantation -
implantation early pregnancy loss rate13% by day 9
26% on day 10
52% on day 11
86% on day 12 or more

Overall the total pregnancy loss up to 6 weeks was 25%. Now that seems very high to most people but keep in mind many of these pregnancy losses occurred so early that women often were not aware they were even pregnant. The normalearlypregnancyloss rate that most women know about is 15-18% of clinically recognized pregnancies so almost 40% of all pregnancy loss is unrecognized.
When is the best time to have intercourse in order to get pregnant?
Wilcox had also performed previous work in 1995 (2) which demonstrated that pregnancy only occurs if intercourse occurs within the 6 days prior to and including ovulation. Intercourse after the day of ovulation does not result in pregnancy. The probability of conception ranged from 10% when intercourse occurred five days before ovulation to 33% when it occurred on the day of ovulation itself.
This is the data that suggests the best timing of intercourse in order to conceive is day 10, 12, 14 and 16 (in case of late ovulation) of a 28 day cycle or days -4, -2, 0, +2 in relation to expected ovulation in the case of cycles different than 28 days.
When should I begin testing with home urine tests?
Mosthome pregnancyteststhat check urine beta-HCG are sensitive to 20-25 mIU/ml of HCG. The general rule-of thumb is to test at the time when you are a day late for your menses or about 15 days after ovulation. The test can be positive anywhere from about 2-3 days prior to a missed menses to 4-5 days after.
Testing really does depend upon how regular your menses are or in other words how regular ovulation occurs. If you tend to be late (longer than 28 days) with your periods or the timing of menses varies by several days each cycle, then it is better not to waste pregnancy tests by testing at day 28-29 after the last period starts.


Fertilization can be anywhere from 12-24 hours after ovulation.

You also have to look at how your newly fertilized and implanted egg produces HCG. It will double every 2-3 days.

So lets use this as an example.....

(Assume that this person has a normal 28 day cycle...Ovulates Cycle Day 14 and has a 14 day luteal phase.)

Cycle Day 1-Normal Period
Cycle Day 10-BD
Cycle Day 12-BD
Cycle Day 14-BD OVULATION
Cycle Day 15-Fertilization of Egg
Cycle Day 26-Implantation of Egg
Cycle Day 27-HCG of 5
Cycle Day 28-HCG of 8 (EXPECTED PERIOD)
Cycle Day 29--HCG of 15
Cycle Day 30-HCG of 20
Cycle Day 31-HCG of 28

She has purchased a CLEARBLUE EASY HPT which detects HCG at level 25.
So even though the expected period date was on cycle day 28, since it took longer for the fertilized egg to implant...she will not be able to detect her pregnancy until Day 31 of her cycle.


If she had implanted earlier......she would have gotten a positive with the CLEARBLUE EASY HPT on Cycle Day 28, the same as her next expected period.
(example)
Cycle Day 1- Normal Period
Cycle Day 14-BD OVULATION
Cycle Day 23-Implantation
Cycle Day 24-HCG 5
Cycle Day 25- HCG 8
Cycle Day 26-HCG 13
Cycle Day 27-HCG 20
Cycle Day 28-HCG 26 (EXPECTED PERIOD)


Are ovulation prediction tests worth doing?
Pelvic ultrasound looking at the ovaries is considered the gold standard in ovulation prediction in a research setting but obviously in a practical application of a woman trying to conceive, ultrasound is not used. Urinary LH testing has been shown to have a 100% correlation with ultrasound as far as predicting the timing of ovulation (3). In that same study, they looked at cervical mucous changes, basal body temperature (BBT) charts and salivary ferning. Cervical mucous changes only had a correlation of 48%, salivary ferning correlated 37% and BBT has a 30% correlation.
For the home tests that measure LH surge that immediately precedes ovulation, detection of LH occurs at above 30 mIU/ml. This means that women with polycystic ovarian syndrome who have slightly higher resting LH values are still not falsely detected as ovulating. The urinary LH spike occurs about 24-36 hours prior to ovulation so it is very useful for women trying to conceive because it gives them a window of warning. The test will show positive for one or two days and rarely 3 days if you catch a spike right at the beginning and it is a large release of LH.
(https://www.baby-gaga.com/outbound.php?url=https://www.wdxcyber.com/ninfer11.htm&post_id=28081296)

Weeks of pregnancy

Week 3 7DPO HCG 0 to 5
Week 4 14DPO (next period due) HCG 5 to 430
Week 5 21DPO HCG 180 to 7400
Week 6 28DPO HCG 1,100 to 56,500
Weeks 7 to 8 35DPO to 42 DPO HCG 7,600 to 230,000
Weeks 9 to 12 49DPO to 70DPO HCG 25,300 to 290,000

Early Pregnancy Tests20 mIUEarly Pregnancy TestsEarly Pregnancy Tests
AccuHome*25 mIUGermaine Laboratories
4203 Gardendale Center, Suite 230
San Antonio TX 78229

AimStep20 mIUGermaine Laboratories
4203 Gardendale Center, Suite 230
San Antonio TX 78229

Aim Midstream OTC20 mIUGermaine Laboratories
4203 Gardendale Center, Suite 230
San Antonio TX 78229

AimStick PBD20 mIUGermaine Laboratories
4203 Gardendale Center, Suite 230
San Antonio TX 78229

AimStick OTC / AccuDip20 mIUGermaine Laboratories
4203 Gardendale Center, Suite 230
San Antonio TX 78229

Answer Quick & Simple25 mIU1-800-833-9532Church & Dwight
Princeton NJ 08543

Baby Test (Dollar Store)20 mIU1-800-351-0177
Sales Enterprises
12361 Wilkings Ave.
Rockville MD 20852

Clearblue Easy (U.K.)25 mIU0870 5673514
Unipath Ltd., Priory Business Park, Stanard Way
Cardington, Bedford, Bedfordshire MK44 3UP

Clearblue Easy +/-25 mIU1-800-321-EASY
Unipath Diagnostics, Inc.
Priceton, NJ 08542

Clearview25 mIU1-800-899-SELF (7353)
1-617-647-3900
Inverness Medical, Inc.
200 Prospect St., Waltham MA 02154

Confirm 1-Step25 mIU1-770-582-2222
1-334-792-3775Dist. by Durex Consumer Products, Inc.
London International Group, Inc.
3858 Engineering Drive NW
Norcross GA 30092

Crystal Clear (Australia)25 mIU03-9844-4695
Advanced Clinical Systems
PO Box 42, Warradyte Vic 3113

CVS (cartridge)25 mIU1-800-899-SELF (7353)
1-617-647-3900
Inverness Medical, Inc.
200 Prospect St., Waltham MA 02154

CVS (stick test)25 mIU1-800-433-4634,TCPI, Inc., 3333 S.W. 15th Street
Pompano Beach FL 33069

Day Seven (CDN)25 mIU1-800-667-1197
PHMX, Pharmaceutical & Diagnostics Ltd.
Vancouver, BC

dBest One Step20 mIU206-527-5086,
AmeriTek, Inc.
Seattle WA

e.p.t. +/-25 mIU1-800-378-1783
Pfizer Consumer Healthcare
Morris Plains NJ 07950

Equate +/- (Wal*Mart)25 mIU1-877-227-3543LifeCare Medical International Corp.
Philadelphia PA 19044

Equate (Wal*Mart)25 mIU1-877-227-3543LifeCare Medical International Corp.
Philadelphia PA 19044

Fact Plus Select
(blue lines)25 mIU1-800-986-8598
Ross/Abbott Laboratories
Columbus OH 43215

Fact Plus Pro
(blue lines)25 mIU1-800-986-8598
Ross/Abbott Laboratories
Columbus OH 43215

Fastest (U.K.)25 mIUHome Health UK Ltd, Unit 11,
Peerglow Industrial Estate, Olds Approach
Watford, Hertfordshire WD18 9SR

First Response Early Result15-25 or
6.3 mIU
see1-800-367-6022
Church & Dwight
Princeton NJ 08543

First Sign One Step Midstream (U.K.)25 mIUHome Health UK Ltd, Unit 11,
Peerglow Industrial Estate, Olds Approach
Watford, Hertfordshire WD18 9SR

hCG One Step25 mIUACON Laboratories
4108 Sorrento Valley Boulevard
San Diego CA 92121

hCG One Step Ultra10 mIUACON LaboratoriesACON Laboratories
4108 Sorrento Valley Boulevard
San Diego CA 92121

Insta Test hCG25 mIU1-818-591-3194
Cortez Diagnostics, Inc.
23961 Craftsman Road, Suite D
Calabasas CA 91302

Inverness +/-
(various brands)25 mIU1-800-899-SELF (7353)
1-617-647-3900
Inverness Medical, Inc.
200 Prospect St., Waltham MA 02154

Life (CDN)25 mIU1-800-SHOPPERSShopper's Drug Mart
Canada

Lifesign One-Step25 mIU1-877-227-3543LifeCare Medical International Corp.
Philadelphia PA 19044

LifeSign 1 Midstream15 mIU1-888-357-9399
1-858-792-1100
2921 Sandy Pointe No. #3
Del Mar CA 92014

Luna25 mIU1-888-818-5862
1-858-792-1100
PO Box 18028, Vancouver
British Columbia, Canada V6M 4L3

Micro Pregnancy Tests20 mIU

New Choice (Dollar Tree)20 mIU1-800-351-0177Sales Enterprises
12361 Wilkings Ave.
Rockville MD 20852

On Call (U.K.)25 mIUACON LaboratoriesACON Laboratories
4108 Sorrento Valley Boulevard
San Diego CA 92121

One Step Be Sure25 mIU1-800-854-6226
Syntron Bioresearch, Inc.
Carlsbad CA 92008

One Step hCG

Save On Tests20 mIU1-604-684-9372SaveOnTests.com
North Vancouver, BC
V7H 2A5, Canada

Pregnosis (AU)25 mIU1-612-9736-3811
Key Pharmaceuticals
Key Pharmaceuticals Pty Ltd
9-11 Leeds Street
Rhodes, NSW 2138 Australia

Puralin One Step25 mIU1-800-879-2393
Apothecus Pharmaceutical Corp.
Oyster Bay NY 11771

Rapid Self-Test (U.K.)25 mIU01204 362236ARC Pharmacare (2006) Ltd.
PO BOX 2146
Lynstock House, Lynstock Way,
Lostock, Bolton, UK BL6 9AY

Reveal Dipstick (U.K.)25 mIUBR Pharmaceuticals Ltd.
Coal Hill Lane, Farsley,
Leeds LS28 5NA U.K.

Rite-Aid +/-25 mIU1-800-899-SELF (7353)
1-617-647-3900
Inverness Medical, Inc.
200 Prospect St., Waltham MA 02154

Signify hCG20 mIUAbbott Laboratories
200 Abbott Park Road,
Abbott Park IL 60064

Simplicity No Step20 mIUArben Bioscience, LLC
250 Mill Street, Suite 400
Rochester NY 14614

Smart Strip hCG20 mIU

Target +/-25 mIU1-800-899-SELF (7353)
1-617-647-3900
Inverness Medical, Inc.
200 Prospect St., Waltham MA 02154

Tests For Less20 mIU1-479-522-4786
Calhoun Industries, Inc.
9001 Rogers Ave., Suite E
& 10101 Meandering Way
Fort Smith AR 72903

Walgreens +/-25 mIU1-800-899-SELF (7353)
1-617-647-3900
Inverness Medical, Inc.
200 Prospect St., Waltham MA 02154

Web Womb Midstream One-Step10-15 mIU
40-50 mIU
Accu-Clear50 mIUAccu-ClearInverness Medical, Inc.
200 Prospect St., Waltham MA 02154
Boots (U.K.)50 mIU

Clearblue Easy Digital (U.S.)50 mIU1-800-883-EASY (3279)
Unipath

ClearPlan Easy*50 mIU1-800-883-EASY (3279)
Unipath

Dollar General Store50 mIU1-800-899-SELF (7353)
1-617-647-3900
Inverness Medical, Inc.
200 Prospect St., Waltham MA 02154

Drug Emporium One Step50 mIU1-800-899-SELF (7353)
1-617-647-3900
Inverness Medical, Inc.
200 Prospect St., Waltham MA 02154

Early Bird One Step (U.K.)50 mIU01223 638614
Kent Pharmaceuticals Ltd.
Wotton Road, Ashford, Kent TN23 6LL

early Pregnancy test50 mIU1-800-899-SELF (7353)
1-617-647-3900
Inverness Medical, Inc.
200 Prospect St., Waltham MA 02154

Eckerd Digital50 mIU1-800-883-EASY (3279)
Unipath

Eckerd One Step50 mIU1-800-899-SELF (7353)
1-617-647-3900
Eckerd Drug Company
Clearwater FL 33758

e.p.t. 1Step*40 mIU1-800-EPT-1STEP
1-800-378-1783
Pfizer Consumer Healthcare
Morris Plains NJ 07950

e.p.t. Certainty digital50 mIU1-800-378-1783
Pfizer Consumer Healthcare
Morris Plains NJ 07950

Fact Plus Select (pink lines)*40 mIU1-800-986-8598
Ross/Abbott Laboratories
Columbus OH 43215

Fact Plus Pro (pink lines)*40 mIU1-800-986-8598
Ross/Abbott Laboratories
Columbus OH 43215

Family Dollar50 mIU1-800-899-SELF (7353)
1-617-647-3900
Inverness Medical, Inc.
200 Prospect St., Waltham MA 02154

First Response (U.K.)40 mIU01303 221686Feminine Care Research Lab
Carter-Wallace Ltd.
Wear Bay Road, Folkestone
Kent CT19 6PG

Hannaford50 mIU1-800-899-SELF (7353)
1-617-647-3900
Inverness Medical, Inc.
200 Prospect St., Waltham MA 02154

Inverness with | | result (various brands)50 mIU1-800-899-SELF (7353)
1-617-647-3900
Inverness Medical, Inc.
200 Prospect St., Waltham MA 02154

One Step Pregnancy Test50 mIU1-800-899-SELF (7353)
1-617-647-3900
Inverness Medical, Inc.
200 Prospect St., Waltham MA 02154

Predictor (U.K.)50 mIU01480 421817Unit 327, Science Park
Milton Road, Cambridge CB4 4WG

Reveal Midstream (U.K.)50 mIUBR Pharmaceuticals Ltd.
Coal Hill Lane, Farsley,
Leeds LS28 5NA U.K.

Rite-Aid50 mIU1-800-899-SELF (7353)
1-617-647-3900
Inverness Medical, Inc.
200 Prospect St., Waltham MA 02154

Selfcare50 mIU1-800-899-SELF (7353)
1-617-647-3900
Inverness Medical, Inc.
200 Prospect St., Waltham MA 02154

Target50 mIU1-800-899-SELF (7353)
1-617-647-3900
Inverness Medical, Inc.
200 Prospect St., Waltham MA 02154

Walgreens50 mIU1-800-899-SELF (7353)
1-617-647-3900
Inverness Medical, Inc.
200 Prospect St., Waltham MA 02154


Now...for the fun part!!! Determining when you need to test....



HCG Levels during Pregnancy

Days Past Ovulation
Normal HCG Levels:
MIU/ML

7 Days
5-50 (avg. 14)

14 Days
5-50 (avg. 21)

21 Days
5-50 (avg. 42)

28 Days
10-425

35 Days
19-7,340

42 Days
1,080-56,500

7-8 weeks
7,650-229,000

9-12 weeks
25,700-288,000

13-16 weeks
13,300-254,000

17-24 weeks
4,060-165,400

25-40 weeks
3,640-117,000

 

[ttcstill]

You do not need to continue using opk's just bd tonight and tomorrow night then skip a day and have an insurance round on tuesday.

 

[amethyst77]

Thanks ttcstill
xxx

 

[wantingagirl]

I was BFN at 9 and BFP at 10 but everyone is different so you may get yours tomorrow..... does it feel like af is on her way?

Not sure hun kind of on and off, crampy legs and got a little more of brown discharge when went to the loo again. TMI but have had 3 bm since yesterday weird. Crampy in tummy on and off just not all the time. Dont want to believe anything til I see hard evidence. What did you feel like before you got yours? Due tomorrow so will see. Ses online usually a couple of days so maybe monday or tuesday want to wait til Im late to test if I am.

 

[wantingagirl]

Yeah Amethyst I was gonna say what Tammy said in her reply

Thanks Ale some great info!! Congrats on your pregnancy by the way I didnt know!

 

[wantingagirl]

Oh well AF got me tonight a day early.... guess onto cycle month 8 softcups, SMEP and maybe preseed. Good Luck girls!

 

[brillbride]

sorry wanting a girl--maybe jenny is right though.xx

 

[new mummy2010]

Oh well AF got me tonight a day early.... guess onto cycle month 8 softcups, SMEP and maybe preseed. Good Luck girls!

Hi guess i cant stay away i need you girls
Tried to explain today to DF why in such a cow at the mo he says he kinda understands but think he is finding my mood swings hard im struggling girls but i know it takes time and not been trying that long
Wanting im so sorry she got you too wanted to see a BFP for you my af came day early to maybe its a sign we will get it this time i hav e a strong feeling i really do
Congrats Ale missed your BFP sorry x

 

[wantingagirl]

brillbride - Thanks hun.... yeah I hope she is right. Where abouts are you on your cycle. Im going to go all out in this cycle, didnt do SMEP last month as needed month off, so shall do that with softcups and CBFM and maybe preseed depending on how expensive it is.
She has been wrong too but we shall see. Im just getting used to seeing AF now after 8 cycles. Ha my sis is pregnant im really happy for her I started trying before her and she is 24 weeks pregnant now! Im going to stalk your journal hun I cant figure out how to put mine on my ticker. I hope you get your BFP soon xxx

New Mummy - I knew you couldnt stay away hehe..... all I can really say is these things take time. Have you seen 'the great sperm race' this will put it in perspective how hard it is its on utube its amazing that anyone gets pregnant first time round. Just be careful hun I was like that with DH and I didnt understand it was difficult for him too just he didnt show it and can put too much pressure on the two of you. My hubby started resenting it taken over our life and we had many arguments.
Thanks hun I hope we both do get it this cycle we should be testing roughly the same time? Hope my Jenny Renner prediction is right.

 

[new mummy2010]

brillbride - Thanks hun.... yeah I hope she is right. Where abouts are you on your cycle. Im going to go all out in this cycle, didnt do SMEP last month as needed month off, so shall do that with softcups and CBFM and maybe preseed depending on how expensive it is.
She has been wrong too but we shall see. Im just getting used to seeing AF now after 8 cycles. Ha my sis is pregnant im really happy for her I started trying before her and she is 24 weeks pregnant now! Im going to stalk your journal hun I cant figure out how to put mine on my ticker. I hope you get your BFP soon xxx

New Mummy - I knew you couldnt stay away hehe..... all I can really say is these things take time. Have you seen 'the great sperm race' this will put it in perspective how hard it is its on utube its amazing that anyone gets pregnant first time round. Just be careful hun I was like that with DH and I didnt understand it was difficult for him too just he didnt show it and can put too much pressure on the two of you. My hubby started resenting it taken over our life and we had many arguments.
Thanks hun I hope we both do get it this cycle we should be testing roughly the same time? Hope my Jenny Renner prediction is right.

Yeah i know what you mean
my next af should be due 30th june after this one jenny says BFP in june from cycle which starts in june so yay for us both we want june BFP

 

[Nvr2Late]

Question about SMEP -- and hope it's not a dumb one!

Why start BD'ing on CD8? It seems so early... do you think it'd be ok if we start in earnest on CD10, if I regularly ovulate on CD 14/15??

 

[ttcstill]

Nvr2Late - it hink it would be fine..... but starting on cd insures there are more spern waiting on the egg....... sperm can live up to 6 days waiting on an egg.

 

[ttcstill]

Thanks ttcstill
xxx

You are very welcome

I was BFN at 9 and BFP at 10 but everyone is different so you may get yours tomorrow..... does it feel like af is on her way?

Not sure hun kind of on and off, crampy legs and got a little more of brown discharge when went to the loo again. TMI but have had 3 bm since yesterday weird. Crampy in tummy on and off just not all the time. Dont want to believe anything til I see hard evidence. What did you feel like before you got yours? Due tomorrow so will see. Ses online usually a couple of days so maybe monday or tuesday want to wait til Im late to test if I am.

I was feeling queasy, sore boobs, and I noticed I was eating more. I am now working on 5 weeks and I feel nausiated on and off. I am also getting heartburn which really sucks....... I keep having pulling and tugging pains in my stomache which always seem to send me running to the bathroom to check for blood

 

[brillbride]

brillbride - Thanks hun.... yeah I hope she is right. Where abouts are you on your cycle. Im going to go all out in this cycle, didnt do SMEP last month as needed month off, so shall do that with softcups and CBFM and maybe preseed depending on how expensive it is.
She has been wrong too but we shall see. Im just getting used to seeing AF now after 8 cycles. Ha my sis is pregnant im really happy for her I started trying before her and she is 24 weeks pregnant now! Im going to stalk your journal hun I cant figure out how to put mine on my ticker. I hope you get your BFP soon xxx

New Mummy - I knew you couldnt stay away hehe..... all I can really say is these things take time. Have you seen 'the great sperm race' this will put it in perspective how hard it is its on utube its amazing that anyone gets pregnant first time round. Just be careful hun I was like that with DH and I didnt understand it was difficult for him too just he didnt show it and can put too much pressure on the two of you. My hubby started resenting it taken over our life and we had many arguments.
Thanks hun I hope we both do get it this cycle we should be testing roughly the same time? Hope my Jenny Renner prediction is right.

hi wanting a girl---im on cd 15 today--i had positve opk cd 14 and 13----so i am doing the smep and hoping that i ovualted but i know after a MC--things can be different--im going for a checkup scan 2mor morn to make sure all is ok but im sure it is---just really a procedural checkup.. jenny predicted a BFP in june from a cycle beginning in june---unfortunatlly due to the MC my cycle started a bit earlier --23rd may but im still hoping and praying that i find out in june that i have a BFP!!! god we are all Junes--how exciting--plus cheri said june too.....it musy be tough on you with your sister being pregnant and u havin started trying before her--u poor thing--hopefully we will all get our BFP's in a few weeks ....xxx

 

[Firedancer41]

Question about SMEP -- and hope it's not a dumb one!

Why start BD'ing on CD8? It seems so early... do you think it'd be ok if we start in earnest on CD10, if I regularly ovulate on CD 14/15??

I think part of it is so DH can...er,...*unload* regularly to stimulate production. I have read that you should not go more than a few days even after ov.