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[Amygdala]

Aw, TTC! I really hope this is a new pregnancy for you but your temps really seem to speak against that. Can you get your doctor to do a series of blood hcg? That would tell you for sure if you're pregnant and it might give an indication of why you're still getting positive tests if you're not. In that case, I'd then ask for a scan for retained tissue. I think sometimes they treat this with meds, so you basically get a heavier period.

 

[TTC74]

I agree. My temps strongly suggest no new pregnancy. I have an appt at the end of the month with my RE. If I haven't gotten AF by then, I'll see if he's willing to induce it.

 

[Amygdala]

Good plan, I think. What a drag this has been for you!

 

[Amygdala]

Waaaaah, I wanna know already!!! 6dpo. Bfn this morning within the time window but still dried as a faint second line. So no use in early testing for me, because it could just be low level leftovers. Meh. I don't think I can cope with another week and a half of not knowing. And I'm meant to be concentrating on work!!!

 

[MrsRose168]

Waaaaah, I wanna know already!!! 6dpo. Bfn this morning within the time window but still dried as a faint second line. So no use in early testing for me, because it could just be low level leftovers. Meh. I don't think I can cope with another week and a half of not knowing. And I'm meant to be concentrating on work!!!

I know, the waiting is really starting to get to me! I caved and tested today and got a BFN. Shocker!

I started getting some pains in my pelvic region yesterday so hopefully that's a good sign!

 

[MrsRose168]

Incidentally, is there anything to suggest that an around 9 week loss is related to progesterone? I've had two (8+3 and 9+3) but I always thought progesterone caused issues earlier?

They say anything up to 10 weeks can be due to a hormonal problem. Past that the placenta takes over, hcg levels off and then drops, and your progesterone shoots through the roof (thank you placenta). With my short LPs (I O on CD12 but my cycles are only 22 days) and my loss at 6+4 that was discovered at 8+1, I worry about my progesterone level...buuut the more I read the more focus does seems to be more on conception and the first few weeks after. There's also some concern that supplementation in early pregnancy could lead to a non-viable baby surviving longer. My good friend spotted early in her first pg and so she supplemented with progesterone. They found out in early second tri that the baby had trisomy. She carried her little girl almost full-term, but she was stillborn. Now she always wonders if she would have MC'd naturally earlier if she hadn't supplemented. There's also risk that if you supplement and then miss a dose for whatever reason your levels could suddenly drop which would be bad for the baby. So many worries swirling in my head but none of them are clear cut or easy. For now, I think I'm going to just push the worries aside and give this another go naturally. Hopefully I get the go ahead sooner rather than later.

Also as a side note, I hate that the doctors say that most early MCs are just chance genetic abnormalities when the stats I'm seeing are around 60%. I guess that's "most" but not by the huge land slide they make it seem.

I've read that progesterone will not help sustain a non-viable pregnancy, though it can make you hang on to it a bit longer.

 

[MrsRose168]

I agree. My temps strongly suggest no new pregnancy. I have an appt at the end of the month with my RE. If I haven't gotten AF by then, I'll see if he's willing to induce it.

Geez, I wish your appointment was sooner! I feel like you've been waiting in limbo forever!

 

[TTC74]

I know, MrsRose! I feel like I've been waiting forever too! I'm really starting to think that my body sensed the heavy spotting 8 days ago as AF. That's what my chart seems to suggest. I'll see if I get a pos OPK early next week. That should clue me in.

 

[lesondemavie]

Keeping my everything crossed for you Amyg and rose!

I just feel like crap today. Bleeding picked up a bit this morning, but seems to have stopped almost completely now hours later. Seems like it could start and stop for a while though. I also have no appetite, and what little I do manage to eat runs right through me. Seriously considering taking some time off of work. Going to try to push through the week and then see how I feel.

 

[Pink Petals]

Home with a cold today, so I had some time to catch up!

Les, I am sorry for your loss. Such a dark time. It will get better. Maybe some time off? When I had my MC, I took a full week off and then another two weeks of xmas holidays. I think having that time really helped.

TTC, . I'm sorry if I missed it somewhere, but did you ever get a full AF or was it just spotting? Maybe a doctor visit is in order?

Mrs. Rose, you aren't out yet! You are testing way too early (like I did!)

Amy, are you really waiting until the 19th? Maybe you could test with a FRER around 12-13 dpo? I am a bad influence I know, but that was when I saw lines!

I am 5 weeks today. Waiting for blood results from Monday. The journey sure isn't over once you get that BFP. I am a paranoid mess. Keep thinking I've lost the baby whenever symptoms seem less. I wonder if/when it will stop feeling like this so I can just enjoy it like I did with DS.

 

[TTC74]

Pink - No full AF yet. I had some pretty heavy spotting about 8 days ago for several hours and oddly, my chart seems to have "resent at it's CD1 temps on that date, but no full AF. I have an appt with my RE on the 22nd. So, I'll talk to him then about what the heck is going on.

 

[MrsRose168]

Home with a cold today, so I had some time to catch up!

Les, I am sorry for your loss. Such a dark time. It will get better. Maybe some time off? When I had my MC, I took a full week off and then another two weeks of xmas holidays. I think having that time really helped.

TTC, . I'm sorry if I missed it somewhere, but did you ever get a full AF or was it just spotting? Maybe a doctor visit is in order?

Mrs. Rose, you aren't out yet! You are testing way too early (like I did!)

Amy, are you really waiting until the 19th? Maybe you could test with a FRER around 12-13 dpo? I am a bad influence I know, but that was when I saw lines!

I am 5 weeks today. Waiting for blood results from Monday. The journey sure isn't over once you get that BFP. I am a paranoid mess. Keep thinking I've lost the baby whenever symptoms seem less. I wonder if/when it will stop feeling like this so I can just enjoy it like I did with DS.

I've wondered the same thing. I don't know if I'll ever be able to enjoy a BFP or a pregnancy for that matter. I'm sure I will always be a nervous wreck.

Keep us posted on your results! Praying those numbers are sky high!!

 

[Amygdala]

I know, the waiting is really starting to get to me! I caved and tested today and got a BFN. Shocker!

I started getting some pains in my pelvic region yesterday so hopefully that's a good sign!

Remind me, are you about 7 or 8 dpo?

I've read that progesterone will not help sustain a non-viable pregnancy, though it can make you hang on to it a bit longer.

I hate the thought of that! I've also read that they're unsure whether low progesterone is a cause or an effect in a lot of cases. Ie they don't know if low progesterone causes a healthy pregnancy to end or if an unhealthy pregnancy that would end anyway causes low progesterone. Although there are cases of "chronic" low progesterone but as far as I understand that would always affect your pregnancies, so women who have had healthy babies like me are unlikely to have it.

Keeping my everything crossed for you Amyg and rose!

I just feel like crap today. Bleeding picked up a bit this morning, but seems to have stopped almost completely now hours later. Seems like it could start and stop for a while though. I also have no appetite, and what little I do manage to eat runs right through me. Seriously considering taking some time off of work. Going to try to push through the week and then see how I feel.

I think time off would be good if you can. A miscarriage is hard, not only emotionally but physically as well. There are so many hormones all out of whack. I had a d&c this time so might be different from what's ahead of you but I felt completely rotten for over two weeks (with the odd half day or day of feeling ok and then terrible again). I was shattered all the time, quite hormonal in places despite feeling ok emotionally, angry, overwhelmed with everyday tasks, tearful without cause. Don't have too high expectations of yourself, you need time to heal!

Home with a cold today, so I had some time to catch up!

Les, I am sorry for your loss. Such a dark time. It will get better. Maybe some time off? When I had my MC, I took a full week off and then another two weeks of xmas holidays. I think having that time really helped.

TTC, . I'm sorry if I missed it somewhere, but did you ever get a full AF or was it just spotting? Maybe a doctor visit is in order?

Mrs. Rose, you aren't out yet! You are testing way too early (like I did!)

Amy, are you really waiting until the 19th? Maybe you could test with a FRER around 12-13 dpo? I am a bad influence I know, but that was when I saw lines!

I am 5 weeks today. Waiting for blood results from Monday. The journey sure isn't over once you get that BFP. I am a paranoid mess. Keep thinking I've lost the baby whenever symptoms seem less. I wonder if/when it will stop feeling like this so I can just enjoy it like I did with DS.

Pink, stop tempting me! I've never been one to delay testing, I want to know like yesterday! But the problem is that my tests aren't pure white anyway so even if I got a faint line early, I wouldn't know if that's a new pregnancy or not. And I don't think I'd be too good and not getting my hopes up. So 19th it is!

And I think it takes time to be able to enjoy a new pregnancy. With mine after my first mc, it took until a wee while after the 12 week scan. But then I really did manage to enjoy it and didn't worry too much for the rest of the pregnancy. Bizarrely, I worried a lot more with my second LO. Didn't even announce the pregnancy on Facebook or anything because I always felt I wasn't "safe enough" yet. Well, she's 2 ½ now and perfectly healthy, if a bit snotty today. I hope you feel more confident soon Pink. It'll come.

 

[Pink Petals]

Thanks ladies. I feel somewhat guilty complaining, because I know I am lucky to be at the BFP stage, but the truth is after a loss, first tri is yet another difficult waiting game full of uncertainty. I think I need to pass 8 weeks, because that was when I lost the last one. Will start to have confidence after that.

Blood results back today and numbers are climbing nicely. I haven't asked for specific numbers. I don't want to obsess and I figure if the doctor says it's good, it's good. She wants one more blood test on Monday and then on the 23rd, I have a scan scheduled.

I am supposed to be leading a school trip to the coast in March (I am a teacher). I am feeling like I am not sure I can go. It is a very remote location, 90 minutes to a doctor. I will be 11 weeks. I am scared that if I have another loss, I will be stuck hiking etc with the kids and I don't think I could handle that. It is also a very tiring trip even if all is going well. I am feeling so anxious about going. Someone else might be able to take my place, but it would mean telling my boss my news really soon... Like this week. Not sure what to do!

 

[MrsRose168]

Hey, Amy, I'm 7dpo today. Had some mild cramping on and off today. FX!

 

[Amygdala]

Yeah, fingers crossed MrsRose!

Pink, I think I'd get someone else to go. Not that anything IS going to happen to you but I think the anxiety would be difficult to handle and you shouldn't have to. Also, 11 weeks is exhausting enough without hiking through the middle of nowhere with a bunch of kids to look after.
And I agree, early pregnancy is a tough wait, especially after a loss. So please come and complain all you like. And hopefully, within the next three months or so, we can all join you on the other side.

 

[JemmaLouise]

Yeah I would request someone else take your place Pink, first tri is knackering on its own let alone going on hikes and managing large groups of children, take it easy, you're allowed. I think all of us here are going to be the same in terms of worry, being in this situation is awful and having the constant fear it'll happen again will stay with us until we reach our own personal safe benchmarks

Fx'ed Rose, hopefully all good news, another 9 days until the collective testing

 

[JemmaLouise]

Crosshairs!!!

 

[Amygdala]

Beautiful chart, Jemma!

7dpo here. Felt a little sick last night and this morning (but I get that with pms), sore back, sore boobs, ravenous all the time, sore joints. If it is just pms then I really hope it settles down next month.

 

[JemmaLouise]

It could be the lead up to PMS but all signs looking good there Amy! I know we all said the 19th but any chance of caving before then?