Stacey Solomon Smoking whilst pregnant

[Maman]

its not THAT addictive. i stopped when i found out i was pregnant, i was a heavy smoker of strong tobacco with no filters for 10 years. its called priorities, some smokers act like tobacco is heroin.

stacey should be ashamed of herself.

 

[pinklightbulb]

Some people have more willpower than others. I am OCD and have a very addictive personality, therefore I have none. I'm going into therapy soon for it after realizing there is more to life than living this way, but just pointing out that not everyone reacts the same to addiction.

 

[dani_tinks]

Why do pregnant women who smoke always say their GP said it's ok "as the stress would be worse"? no doctor I know would dream of saying that and any that does is completely wrong.
Yes it is the womans choice but surely the health of your baby is willpower enough to stop smoking for 9 months

 

[Sunshine12]

Why do pregnant women who smoke always say their GP said it's ok "as the stress would be worse"? no doctor I know would dream of saying that and any that does is completely wrong.
Yes it is the womans choice but surely the health of your baby is willpower enough to stop smoking for 9 months

Not sure. I asked my doctor that question (I was secretly hoping he would say it was true because as a smoker for 20 years constant I was trying to find any excuse possible to justify continuing to do it) and he said that it was complete and utter nonsense and that if any doctor put this in writing they would likely be struck off because there was no medical evidence of it! Personally dont believe for one minute that a bit of feeling uncomfortable/emotional and stressed for a while whilst stopping is anywhere near as harmful as poisoning an unborn baby.

 

[dani_tinks]

Exactly. My DF is an consultant oncologist and he's said he would love to meet these so called GPs that tell their patients that. It's total nonsense!

 

[Maman]

Some people have more willpower than others. I am OCD and have a very addictive personality, therefore I have none. I'm going into therapy soon for it after realizing there is more to life than living this way, but just pointing out that not everyone reacts the same to addiction.

thats still not an excuse, i have had addictions to drugs in the past and suffered from severe depression, i still stopped smoking when i got pregnant. i dont think you can measure willpower but you can have different priorities, and that all i think it is, so for a mother to not place her unborn child as top priority just disgusts me. Judgemental? maybe? But my kids arent going to be at risk are they? so my prioties much be correct!

 

[pinklightbulb]

Some people have more willpower than others. I am OCD and have a very addictive personality, therefore I have none. I'm going into therapy soon for it after realizing there is more to life than living this way, but just pointing out that not everyone reacts the same to addiction.

thats still not an excuse, i have had addictions to drugs in the past and suffered from severe depression, i still stopped smoking when i got pregnant. i dont think you can measure willpower but you can have different priorities, and that all i think it is, so for a mother to not place her unborn child as top priority just disgusts me. Judgemental? maybe? But my kids arent going to be at risk are they? so my prioties much be correct!

I didn't say it was an excuse....

 

[lhancock90]

Why do grown up adults call for threads to be loacked? Surely adults are able to debate and discuss? Just because people disagree with each other does not mean that all threads like this need to be locked?

I know that I for one followed all guidelines and do all I can to make good choices. I constantly look at the choices I make and critcally reassess them. I know many, many other parents who do the same. I feel no differently about Stacey Soloman than I do anyone else smoking in pg. For me , it is not okay and never will be. Last time I looked I was entitled to have these opinions and as an adult wearing my big girl pants I stand by them.

Because its getting down right rude and offensive.

Then perhaps those on both sides who are being offensive need to get a grip. If you cannot take part in a discussion without being offensive when others disagree with you then I question if a forum is the right place for you. This happens over and over again. People don't like how a thread is going/ the fact people disagree and immediately call for it to be closed. Why do adults need someone to jump in all the time? It is akin to being in the playground.

I haven't been offensive at all, but found some comments, especially comparisons drawn with BF/FF and smoking, ridiculous and offensive. Its not a debate, its just going round in the same circles.

 

[Lina]

If you cannot kick a proven harmful habit you have no business having children. I wish the protection for the born extended to the unborn.

 

[indy and lara]

Why do grown up adults call for threads to be loacked? Surely adults are able to debate and discuss? Just because people disagree with each other does not mean that all threads like this need to be locked?

I know that I for one followed all guidelines and do all I can to make good choices. I constantly look at the choices I make and critcally reassess them. I know many, many other parents who do the same. I feel no differently about Stacey Soloman than I do anyone else smoking in pg. For me , it is not okay and never will be. Last time I looked I was entitled to have these opinions and as an adult wearing my big girl pants I stand by them.

Because its getting down right rude and offensive.

Then perhaps those on both sides who are being offensive need to get a grip. If you cannot take part in a discussion without being offensive when others disagree with you then I question if a forum is the right place for you. This happens over and over again. People don't like how a thread is going/ the fact people disagree and immediately call for it to be closed. Why do adults need someone to jump in all the time? It is akin to being in the playground.

I haven't been offensive at all, but found some comments, especially comparisons drawn with BF/FF and smoking, ridiculous and offensive. Its not a debate, its just going round in the same circles.

In reality though most debates on a forum, as opposed to face to face, will go round in circles. People come and go so the conversation does not flow the way it does when discussions happen orally. Some people will feel that smoking and BF/FF are a similar issue while others won't. Surely that is okay?

I still stand by what I said. If people find something said by another offensive then they should address that person directly. Discussions between adults should not have to be monitored and people should be able to conduct themselves without resorting to insults etc. I just cannot understand why, among adults, there is this constant need for someone else to come along and sort out disagreements.

 

[Nibblenic]

I dont think smoking whilst pregnant is any different from strangling a new born baby. As that's what you're doing reducing their ability to take in oxygen. Its not more okay to smoke than it is to wrap you hands around you childrens neck for 5 minutes 10 times a day.

I hope her gp come out and says that he would never advice smoking in pregnancy. No matter how few. I worry that will perpetuate the 'myth' that the stress is worse.

 

[lhancock90]

Why do grown up adults call for threads to be loacked? Surely adults are able to debate and discuss? Just because people disagree with each other does not mean that all threads like this need to be locked?

I know that I for one followed all guidelines and do all I can to make good choices. I constantly look at the choices I make and critcally reassess them. I know many, many other parents who do the same. I feel no differently about Stacey Soloman than I do anyone else smoking in pg. For me , it is not okay and never will be. Last time I looked I was entitled to have these opinions and as an adult wearing my big girl pants I stand by them.

Because its getting down right rude and offensive.

Then perhaps those on both sides who are being offensive need to get a grip. If you cannot take part in a discussion without being offensive when others disagree with you then I question if a forum is the right place for you. This happens over and over again. People don't like how a thread is going/ the fact people disagree and immediately call for it to be closed. Why do adults need someone to jump in all the time? It is akin to being in the playground.

I haven't been offensive at all, but found some comments, especially comparisons drawn with BF/FF and smoking, ridiculous and offensive. Its not a debate, its just going round in the same circles.

In reality though most debates on a forum, as opposed to face to face, will go round in circles. People come and go so the conversation does not flow the way it does when discussions happen orally. Some people will feel that smoking and BF/FF are a similar issue while others won't. Surely that is okay?

I still stand by what I said. If people find something said by another offensive then they should address that person directly. Discussions between adults should not have to be monitored and people should be able to conduct themselves without resorting to insults etc. I just cannot understand why, among adults, there is this constant need for someone else to come along and sort out disagreements.

I've said it once. In one thread, because i felt that at the time, it was becoming ridiculous and offensive, yes its gone back round in a circle now, i'm sure it'll reach an offensive point again soon.
Fair enough that you feel it should be addressed directly. However you didn't address me directly and i made the comment that it should be locked...

 

[Sunshine12]

I imagine they have moved it to news and debate instead of locking it.

 

[Jaysmummy]

I don't see any reason why this thread should be locked, people disagree, that's life............It's called a debate, which is exactly why its been moved to the News and Debates section

xx

 

[midori1999]

I am late to this thread and so apologise if this has been said somewhere and I missed it, but...

I wonder, if Stacey Solomon had been pictured falling out of a nightclub blind drunk or injecting heroin, anyone would still say 'it's her body, her baby, her choice'?

I do feel that she doesn't deserve such a hard time for it when plenty of other celebs and Mums aren't so berated about it, but as a adult women who choose to become pregnant, it is up to us to do our absolute best for our baby and I truly believe that many Mums continue to smoke in pregnancy because they think it won't happen to them, their baby will be fine.

 

[Sunshine12]

I am late to this thread and so apologise if this has been said somewhere and I missed it, but...

I wonder, if Stacey Solomon had been pictured falling out of a nightclub blind drunk or injecting heroin, anyone would still say 'it's her body, her baby, her choice'?

I do feel that she doesn't deserve such a hard time for it when plenty of other celebs and Mums aren't so berated about it, but as a adult women who choose to become pregnant, it is up to us to do our absolute best for our baby and I truly believe that many Mums continue to smoke in pregnancy because they think it won't happen to them, their baby will be fine.

Im against it too but I dont think smoking is comparable to injecting heroin or getting shitfaced. x

 

[midori1999]

I am late to this thread and so apologise if this has been said somewhere and I missed it, but...

I wonder, if Stacey Solomon had been pictured falling out of a nightclub blind drunk or injecting heroin, anyone would still say 'it's her body, her baby, her choice'?

I do feel that she doesn't deserve such a hard time for it when plenty of other celebs and Mums aren't so berated about it, but as a adult women who choose to become pregnant, it is up to us to do our absolute best for our baby and I truly believe that many Mums continue to smoke in pregnancy because they think it won't happen to them, their baby will be fine.

Im against it too but I dont think smoking is comparable to injecting heroin or getting shitfaced. x

Why not? The potential outcomes in all cases are harm to the unborn baby. What makes one different to the other?

 

[moomin_troll]

She had 4 fags in 2 hours! If she had 4 shots of vodka in 2 hours I doubt anyone would be saying oh no leave her alone.

I really can't understand why people are feeling sorry for her, she's a big girl n has decided to risk her unborn child for the sake of her smoking. Oh no she cried on tv boo hoo, I couldn't care less.

We all should no the dangers so that's why I find it strange ppl sticking up for her or other women who smoke while pregnant

 

[dani_tinks]

Why isnt it comparable? Smoking can harm your unborn child. Smoking during pregnancy increases the risk of stillbirth, premature birth, and miscarriage.
Babies born to women who smoke have a higher risk of birth defects, low birthweight, and SIDS.... that is fact.

 

[Lina]

The legality of smoking has much to do with it and social norms. To me anything that harms an innocent unborn is unacceptable.