The July 2009 Babies

[maybethistime]

I gave aaliyah a slap on the back when she decided to chock on paper merv let her play with but I thought she was chocking on salard yesterday and she managed to get in up by her self , it is quite daughting as its new ground for us but try not to worrie as hard as that sounds

 

[Sarah+]

I spent months going to pre-natal classes... learning all about labour - and that lasted all of a couple of hours! Now I have my little bundle-of-joy 24/7 and noone is offering classes in how to care for him??? They should have been teaching us about breastfeeding, sleep patterns, weaning, childproofing houses etc.!!!! Would've been much more useful, lol!!!

 

[maybethistime]

yeh they nothing they taught me in those classes helped me as my bloody labour DIDNOT go as planed

 

[godivalocks]

I usually just go with the flow. I only usually worry about stuff if it seems likely to happen.

As far as weaning, though, because it IS new, I'm just not sure when to introduce more complex stuff to eat. I figured at least when they get teeth, and so far he has none.

 

[TigerLady]

S, if they are truly choking, a slap on the back isn't likely to help much.

True choking is silent. There is no noise as there is NO air getting in or out. Gagging is usually somewhat noisy... coughing and retching like sounds, sometimes mixed with short spaces of silence.

If they choke, you are supposed to get them out of their chair, lay their chest on your forearm, with their head at your hand. Lower their head so their bum is more in the air than their head, then use the heel of your hand to bang on their back, in the middle below the shoulder blades, near where the diaphram is. You might have to do this a couple of times and pretty hard, but it should help.

Never ever stick your finger in their mouth if they are choking! I can actually push the food back further into their windpipe and make the situation much worse.

Offering complex foods is always scary, I think. We worry so much about their ability to handle it. What BLW has taught me, though, is that if you don't help them, they tend not to do things they aren't ready for. So, I just put the food in front of him ("offer") and leave him to it. I don't show him or encourage him. The only thing I do is eat with him, so he can copy how I eat. If he is capable of picking the food up and getting it to his mouth, he rarely has trouble with it. He gags sometimes, but is gagging less and less all the time.

And he has eaten LOADS of crazy stuff... from whole baked potatoes, to all kinds of fruits and veggies... sandwiches (his favorite is a roast beef sandwhich)... chicken... tacos... steak... tuna sandwiches... tuna on crackers.... cheeses... chinese noodles... pot roast... beef stew... grilled cheese sandwiches... peanut butter and jelly...

Basically anything that I have eaten!

It is scary at first, no doubt, but they are better at this sort of thing than you would think.

 

[Sarah+]

S, if they are truly choking, a slap on the back isn't likely to help much.

True choking is silent. There is no noise as there is NO air getting in or out. Gagging is usually somewhat noisy... coughing and retching like sounds, sometimes mixed with short spaces of silence.

If they choke, you are supposed to get them out of their chair, lay their chest on your forearm, with their head at your hand. Lower their head so their bum is more in the air than their head, then use the heel of your hand to bang on their back, in the middle below the shoulder blades, near where the diaphram is. You might have to do this a couple of times and pretty hard, but it should help.

Never ever stick your finger in their mouth if they are choking! I can actually push the food back further into their windpipe and make the situation much worse.

Offering complex foods is always scary, I think. We worry so much about their ability to handle it. What BLW has taught me, though, is that if you don't help them, they tend not to do things they aren't ready for. So, I just put the food in front of him ("offer") and leave him to it. I don't show him or encourage him. The only thing I do is eat with him, so he can copy how I eat. If he is capable of picking the food up and getting it to his mouth, he rarely has trouble with it. He gags sometimes, but is gagging less and less all the time.

And he has eaten LOADS of crazy stuff... from whole baked potatoes, to all kinds of fruits and veggies... sandwiches (his favorite is a roast beef sandwhich)... chicken... tacos... steak... tuna sandwiches... tuna on crackers.... cheeses... chinese noodles... pot roast... beef stew... grilled cheese sandwiches... peanut butter and jelly...

Basically anything that I have eaten!

It is scary at first, no doubt, but they are better at this sort of thing than you would think.

Thanks TL I was going to ask the midwife all about that this morning but I turned up to open-morning at the clinic to find the midwife was sick and they hadn't found a replacement

 

[godivalocks]

My problem is I'm just not sure WHEN to try whole food. Right now he's getting jarred stuff. I don't have anything nutritious to make at the moment, or else I might offer something else. He is probably eating healthier than me at the moment, lol.

I need to go on a diet.

 

[TigerLady]

If he can sit up on his own unaided, is six months or older, makes chewing motions with his mouth, and is reaching for adult food when he sees it, then he is ready.

Just don't be suprised (or concerned) if he plays with the food more than eats it the first several times you offer it. That is normal, too. It is about learning and exploring more than eating at first.

 

[Twiglet]

I want to move onto BLW again but it really scares me as Caitlyn is sick EVERYTIME

She doesn't sit up unaided though so maybe I should wait for a bit?

 

[TigerLady]

Yeah, Twig, that is probably part of the problem. I know Otter has gagged less and less as he learned to sit better and better. Get that boppy and get her sitting up! hehe!

 

[Twiglet]

Thought it might have been part of the problem but never mentioned it before as it didn't seem relevant iykwim? It was only whilst reading some info in the waiting room that I realised one of the major signs that Caitlyn isnt ready for BLW was that she's not sitting up. I'm paying for my doppler tomorrow and then I'll buy one on friday

 

[maybethistime]

aaliyah had rice cakes 2 day had half of it xx

 

[Babydance]

hello all!

Just wondering those who aren't BLW.

How much food does your LO take? Do you do main and dessert? and what size bottles are they on?

xxx

 

[maybethistime]

hey Babydance

aaliyah has 3 main meals a day breakfast dinner and tea and 2 pudding after dinner and lunch, Im still bf but when she has her bottle she takes around 6oz. hope that helps

 

[Babydance]

Thanks hun, what quantities does she have? Soph recently dropped a bottle but she had been getting 5 7oz bottles per day

 

[maybethistime]

around 100 grams of food then a yorgot or fruit, milk wise she only really has around 3 milk feeds a day, morning, evening and bed time. she used to have around 6 , at there age its quite normal for them 2 drop thier milk feeds

 

[TigerLady]

at there age its quite normal for them 2 drop thier milk feeds

Would someone PLEASE tell Otter this!!!!!

 

[maybethistime]

TL sorry hun I feel ur pain aaliyah has only just started dropping hers 2 FX he will start dropping them soon

BD I was just thinking 100g was a bit of a guesstament, its around 4-6 teaspoons now with lumps, then a petie follw yogort or something along those lines hope that makes a bit for sence

 

[Babydance]

Thanks hunny thats what Sophs taking too some time more thank goodness shes 8 months and dropped down to 4 feeds a day
xxx

 

[Babydance]

Thanks hunny thats what Sophs taking too some time more thank goodness shes 8 months and dropped down to 4 feeds a day id been worried she isnt eating enough!
xxx