The New Positively Positive Thread of Positivity *13* BFPs!!!

[Stinas]

Opera with time all men understand and end up agreeing with us. lol After I had the MC DH right away wanted to just skip and go with donor sperm….thats when I kind of went against it and thankfully I did because here I am 5 months pregnant with his biological twins. Everything happens for a reason.
I think your DH just needs to talk to a fertility specialist….one that understands religious beliefs. If someone else explains everything to him he might start opening up to the idea. He just might not fully understand.

Pretty much all odds were against us but we fought for what we wanted and after lots of pain and tears, we finally got it.
I wish you all the best and am here routing for you all, even silent, I am here for anyone that needs any kind of advice. I feel like I can be a fertility/IVF doc by now. Any questions…I'm here for you all!!!

 

[GingerPanda]

Now, I'm a devout atheist, but I respect those with religion. I have to say, though, honestly... I HATE the concept of faith healing and no medical intervention.

If there is an all-knowing, just, and powerful god, then he allowed people to discover medicine and healing.

I want to be respectful, so I won't say much more, but...

You deserve children. If a $9 prescription will get you there, don't you feel guilty about it.

 

[JenzyKY]

Opera. Please go to a specialist to work with your cycles. I can't imagine any understanding religion being against fixing your cycles. How the heck did a 19 year old get to be a leader? Sorry but 19 is not old enough to be effective to me.... I definitely would not be going to him.

 

[Bumblebee2408]

Opera: As another Christian on this site I would tell you that I would go ahead and accept treatment!

I like you believe if god didn't want us to access treatments at hospitals then he would not have let us work out the science behind it and would have left us in the dark. I believe that medical experimentalists find cures to problems like yours because god gives them subjects/patients to treat and find the answers to these issues.

I also think life is for learning and if we were not to do any of the above we'd never learn and develop as people.

If this will help you and fulfill your life as a women & a wife I would go ahead
Make the decision that is right for you
xxx

 

[opera_lady24]

Thank you ladies for all the encouragement and kind words. For the most part, if I talked to most of the women in my church, I don't think they'd have anything negative to say. I go to a very inclusive, genuine church that doesn't try to shut out all the negatives in the world but rather aims to do good in the community by serving the under-resourced and providing a safe place for people to feel welcome. That being said, there will always be those two or three people who sit on moral high horses who really don't know what the heck they're talking about. And in all honesty, I have seen God heal women miraculously who were specifically told by doctors they would never have children. For instance, this one amazing preacher (woman - my church is all for women in ministry b/c Jesus was a big fan of women in leadership) had a uterus the size of an infant's and only one ovary. She was specifically told that she would never have children, that not even surgery could fix her body. Yet God healed her and she's the mother of five children and sixteen grandchildren. But I wasn't ever specifically told by doctors that I can't have children. I've learned that I'll probably need medical aid but the chance of pregnancy has never been an impossibility for me. I ovulate rarely on my own but apparently my uterus and other features are in good shape. When we went to see the FS, she was confident that with clomid, my chances would definitely go back up to the 20% I should be at normally. I'm a little overweight but my overall health, cholesterol, blood pressure, thyroid, etc. are all really good. I believe in God's miracles and I believe He can miraculously heal me but what I do know is that I'm supposed to have children and no matter how they come about, I'll still look at them as my little miracles.

DH did finally jump on board. I'm glad it didn't take him too long. He's actually teaching at his men's group tonight on medical treatment vs. miraculous healing. Should be pretty awesome for him. He wants to pay down a couple of debts we have first (which I'm not opposed to b/c they'll be paid off by the end of the month) but then we'll get to it hopefully by the end of January.

I hope I didn't make you feel uncomfortable GP. I totally respect your beliefs and admire your willingness to be so honest. If more Christians were like that this world would be a much better place. I will also say that my church doesn't advocate not seeing doctors if you're ill or even if you believe you've been healed b/c the proof is in the science. Like I said, we keep it real lol! Onto a completely different point....did AF show yet???!!!

Okay...I gotta head to work. Hope y'all have an awesome day today!

 

[GingerPanda]

I'm not uncomfortable at all.

I'm just glad y'all will see doctors when you're ill. I don't judge Christians, but I do judge the people who let their kids die because they wanted to "pray the cancer away". Should be second degree murder, methinks.

I can't imagine a god that wouldn't want more followers/worshippers. That's what you'd be doing if you have kids, so I guess you're serving him by doing it.

I think it's super awesome that your church is accepting of women in leadership roles. One of the bigger things that drove me away from church when I was young was the way they looked down on women and refused to accept LGBT individuals. I can only be told I'm going to hell so many times because I think Susie sitting next to me in Sunday School is cute.


AF never did show! I'll give it four more days, then call my doc for Provera.

 

[opera_lady24]

OOOOHHHH GP lots and lots of to you!!!!! That's SOOO exciting!!!! Please keep us updated!!!!!!!!

Yeah, there's this notion amongst some "Christian" individuals that LGBT individuals have greater sin or something like that. That honestly disgusts me. And no one but God has the right to tell anyone they're going to hell because it's honestly not up to any of us. Sigh. I could go on forever about that so I'll stop right here lol! And yes...I also agree with you that parents who let their children die b/c they think doctors are evil should rot in jail for neglect and abuse...

Okay....gotta run....weird to leave it like that but DH tells me he has a surprise for me...

 

[GingerPanda]

Not exciting. Frustrating.

The Clomid didn't work, remember? So I didn't ovulate, and there's no way I'm preggo. The Provera I'm getting if she doesn't show in a few days is a drug that will bring AF. But it'll probably take more than two weeks to work.

Then I get 100mg Clomid pills to take CD3-7 after AF starts.

Hopefully the doubled dosage will work and make me ovulate!

 

[opera_lady24]

I'm sorry GP I must have missed that somewhere. That is frustrating. And I understand...I'm not under the influence of any meds right now and AF still hasn't shown her ugly face yet and I'm not preggo either. The female body can be so infuriating sometimes!

Also, I've taken provera before and with my dosage, I took it for 10 days and AF showed up typically no later than three days after that. Sometimes she'd show up the first day after not taking the pill. For me, it didn't have any other side effects, although it was fun to see my chart spike and make FF think I O'd lol! Have you used it before?

 

[wantanerd]

alright ladies as someone who was on clomid for 4 cycles, clomid helps mature your eggs. It doesn't necessarily make you ovulate. Thats where the HCG shot comes in. That DOES make you ovulate within 36 hours of taking it. And the 4 months I took it, two weeks afterwords periods were right on schedule until I got pregnant with Letrozole (femara which is the step up from clomid. I HIGHLY recommend it. NO SIDE EFFECTS!!!! It is more expensive 50-70$ but as my husband says its worth it to not deal with the bitch that I was while on clomid.) In fact I have another FS referral in the works to try for #2. So if clomid doesn't work, try the next step! 4 months of the treatment got me my wonderful son!

 

[opera_lady24]

Hey wantanerd! So nice to hear from you! And thank you for your input. The FS I saw did recommend immediately starting me on clomid and brevelle (sp?). It was just a little bit overwhelming and slightly more aggressive than I'd like to be just yet so I'll start with Clomid and provera. If I'm going to survive this process, I need it to be on my terms. I'm already moody with all my hormones in the mess they are so I doubt clomid will make me much worse. GL for #2!!!! Your story is so inspiring and thanks for coming back and checking in!

 

[JenzyKY]

Ginger, luckily at least in the NICU we can make the parents go against their religious beliefs if it is life or death for the baby. For instance, a Jehovah's Witness refuses blood but a court order makes them consent to it.

 

[Lionchild]

Opera, I'm sorry I was absent during your difficult time. I only had a couple of minutes to read BnB over the past few days (work has been crazy!). I was trying to quickly respond the other day when you posted all of your feelings about medical intervention, but I got interrupted in the middle of my response, and it never got sent.

I'm so glad DH is ready to try Clomid! It sounds like a good first step toward your BFP (hopefully the only step you'll need!). I hope it gives your body the little push it needs to O. GP was told she doesn't O on her own, and it helped her to get pregnant the very first cycle on it. After that, I was a believer in it. Btw, I am sending my positive thoughts that this next stronger round will work again, GP ! I too am about to jump aboard the Clomid train after almost 2 years of trying to avoid intervention. It's such an inexpensive and relatively easy thing to try as an initial step (depending on your particular circumstances of course). Why not?

Thanks for the info about Femara, wantanerd. I'll keep it in mind and ask the doctor about it if it comes to it.

Ok ladies still waiting for #1 (and anyone trying for a second as well), let's get out there and make some babies!!!

 

[GingerPanda]

I'm sorry GP I must have missed that somewhere. That is frustrating. And I understand...I'm not under the influence of any meds right now and AF still hasn't shown her ugly face yet and I'm not preggo either. The female body can be so infuriating sometimes!

Also, I've taken provera before and with my dosage, I took it for 10 days and AF showed up typically no later than three days after that. Sometimes she'd show up the first day after not taking the pill. For me, it didn't have any other side effects, although it was fun to see my chart spike and make FF think I O'd lol! Have you used it before?

I have used it before. Every time, I take it for ten days, then AF shows two weeks after the last pill. It suuuucks waiting so long.


Clomid did make me ovulate the first time. Dr Internet says taking it CD3-7 causes more eggs to mature, and CD5-9 makes the eggs you're already maturing mature faster. My doctor won't prescribe Femara because it's a drug for breast cancer, not fertility. He said if I get referred to the FS, I could talk about it with them. I've never had a trigger shot, though. I will ask about that!

 

[wantanerd]

you could try prometrium which is another progesterone supplament. provera took a little longer and I have gotten prometrium at 10 and 20mg doses as well.

 

[wantanerd]

This is what makes the journey worth it no matter how long we are on it

 

[opera_lady24]

Doyle is just SO cute!

Well, I just called my doctor to get a prescription for Provera. DH was like...."I don't care what bills we have to pay, you get your cycles on track!" lol! So I'll at least be winning half the battle sooner than later. Hopefully I can start clomid in January. It's so frustrating sometimes b/c I want to start it now (I've only waited 2 years for this!) but January is only half a month away. Starting clomid might only be a month away so I just gotta hang on a tad longer...

GP...what days did you take clomid? I'm guessing that my eggs begin to mature on their own b/c my ovaries are covered in cysts but never fully make it to full growth. I guess that would mean I should take my rounds on the later days. I also guess my doctor will have better advice than my guessing too though lol!

How is everyone else doing? Wantanerd have you seen a FS yet for TTC #2?

 

[wantanerd]

the referral was filled out wrong the first time so I am hoping by friday I get the okay and find out which FS I can see (there are only two I think in Montgomery). What sucks is my period came this week so it would have been awesome to have seen one. My periods are in no ways regular for a normal person but for me, I have had it six times since march which is a personal record for me not being on anything. I am hoping the doctor will only test my thyroid and my testosterone levels( both were off pre doyle) and then give me some progesterone, get a cycle started and see if what worked with doyle works this time.

Opera, when you take clomid and if you do the ov strips you need to wait a few days after day 12 to start testing, clomid can give false positives on ov strips. When I was on letrozole, days 3-7 worked for me. With clomid also try to take it at the exact same time every day and it can cause mood swings when taken in higher doses. I don't recommend going over 150mg... it caused even bigger cysts on my ovaries and made me totally psycho. I really hope 100mg works well for you, I had less problems on that dose but still didn't ovulate. I wasn't a success on clomid but the first time my SIL took it, she was pregnant with twins. So it definitely works! I hope you don't have to wait too many cycles!
I am glad this thread is still here!

 

[Frustrated42]

Yes wantanerd I'm so happy this thread is here. I start on 50mg of clomid days 3-7 as soon as af shows. If she doesn't show then I'm taking provera. I'm really hoping that it works for me and this is as far as I have to go and I hope it works for you to opera.

 

[GingerPanda]

Opera, they'll probably start you on 50mg. I take mine before bed on CD3-7 because I do not ovulate (and thus rarely have cysts, like I've only ever had one in my life years ago).

Your doctor might have you take it CD5-9, I don't know. 5-9 is supposed to help already developing eggs develop more. Mine at 3-7 makes me develop eggs at all. I'll be on 100mg this time.

I haven't noticed any side-effects other than some slight food aversions. I don't know if that's because I take it before bed and thus sleep through the worst of it... Or if I just don't get any effects at 50mg. I'll see if it's different at 100mg.

Getting sadder as the new year approaches. I should be getting ready to have a baby the first week of February.