TTC 1st child 35+ (Please spoiler any PG news/announcements).

AFM, I could not be more confused about what the hell my body is doing. Today is CD17 and I have light spotting this morning. WTH? CBFM still reading "high". Again, WTH? AF isn't due until June 12th. No cramps, just some gurgling so I don't think it's early AF. I ditched the progesterone this cycle because I'm supposed to take it the day after I get a peak reading on the CBFM, but since no peak, no progesterone. Maybe that's it? I have no clue. ERRGGGHH...Thank God today is an early day out of work (we only work 1/2-days on Fridays during the summer) so my work girlfriends and I are going to drown our sorrows at the pub down the street. Only one of the 3 girls knows what's going on with me, so I will just chalk my mood up to work-stress for the other 2, but I'm so confused about what's happening to me, it's making me weepy, seriously. I want to run away, but how do I run away from myself? {sigh...}

Could it be ovulation/mid-cycle spotting? It's happened to me once before and completely freaked me out. Wouldn't explain the late ovulation, but might explain the spotting.... :shrug:


Thank you for the :dust:...I sure can use it! Do you know where I can also get some sanity dust? I could use that too!

My cycle is 25 days. I get AF on CD26 like clockwork (when not on progesterone) and I ovulate between CD10-CD13 like clockwork (until now). So frustrating. Makes my head spin. I plan on making it spinnier tonight (one for me, one for lava...2 for me, 2 for lava...https://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/playbiller/emoticon/eatdrink048.gif)

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YAY Lava HUGE congrats to you and DH. I am sure your bean will stick and you will have a happy and healthy 9 months ahead of you. With each and every lady who gets their BFP it gives the rest of us hope that we will achieve it soon. What a great way for you to start your weekend.:happydance:

FM I am routing for it to be your turn next and praying that you get fab news next week :hugs:

This thread is on a roll for BFP's at the moment and long may it continue:happydance::happydance:
 
Lava- Words can not express how happy I am for you!:happydance::happydance::happydance::happydance::happydance::bfp::bfp::yipee::yipee::wohoo::wohoo::wohoo::holly::holly:

Caroleb- Thank you so much for rooting for me, you have been through so much too and the fact that you are thinking of me means so much. I'm sorry that your sister was a little insensetive but it sounds like you got her straight. I'm rooting for you too!!!!! I hope we can all be bump buddies.

afm- I'm feeling really nauseous today, it started last night, I threw up twice last night which really sucked. I went to Medac this morning and got some nexium but the dr. on staff who had NO bedside manner said that he wasn't convinced that I had acid reflux but would give me a 30 day supply. He said the nauseau was probably coming from everything that I had done last week. My blood pressure was pretty high which was unusual but I think it's just I'm stressed out because I'm not sure whats going on with my body, I feel horrible and I go on vacation across the country next week and I'm terrified that if I am pg (and I hope I am) that I'm going to hyperstim and be in pain the entire trip.:cry: Its a catch 22 I want to be pg but I want to enjoy my trip too, the last couple of weeks I have felt so crappy. :cry:
 
Thanks HA, I am hoping that I get 12 as doctor was saying between 10-12 at last scan but hey as long as the egg quality is good then I am in with a chance. I have been taking metaformin which they say helps with the quality so hoping and praying. DH has been an absolute godsend and has been so more sensitive to all that is going on. Last IVF cycle I was in London at my Mum's for most of it alone and DH flew in to give his "donation" so he didn't really understand what it was all about but this time he has seen what us women go through and he has been taken aback. He now really understands what we go through all in the hope of having a baby and sometimes it has upset him to see me suffering with side effects. I can cope with it all if it means we get a baby of our own at the end.

Hoping and praying that this is our time but if not I think I have 1 more IVF cycle in me.

Have a great weekend.:hugs:
 
Hi everyone, what a supportive thread! :)

I concieved when I was 35 and it took me 3 months. I had been off the pill for 9 months but had taken it since 19. I was doing a lot of research prior to TTC as I'm impatient and wanted it to happen fast. (Hoping to) I can share some research I did maybe it helps someone.

What I took was:

Prenatal
Royal Jelly, fresh from vitaminshoppe in LA
EPO --------------------up to ovulation
Raspberry leaf capsules-------------------- up to ovulation
Angus Cactus------------ up to ovulation
Flaxseed oil-------------after ovulation
Green tea--------------at least 1 cup
Rasberry leaf tea
Wheatgerm oil
2 pillows under bum after TTC. :)

The other stuff I didn't take and I dont know whats safe or not, even from what I took, so I cant recommend anything, but you make your own minds up :)



https://forums.fertilitycommunity.c...-ivf/276953-has-anyone-taken-royal-jelly.html
"Here is the stuff I'm taking. I take a teaspoon in the AM and PM and wash it down with water. Both are mixed together in honey (no foul taste at all...it's just really sweet, thick/cloudy honey...I got a jar that tasted funny once and took it back...I think it was rancid). Fresh Royal Jelly & Pollen In by YS Royal Jelly/Honey Bee - VitaminShoppe.com"

 Chaste Berry (Vitex agnus castus)

Vitex is probably the most well known and widely studied fertility herb. It works
by stimulating the hormones involved in ovulation and restoring female hormonal
balance. Vitex helps to correct luteal phase defects and helps to lower high
prolactin levels, both of which cause fertility problems. It acts on the pituitary
gland, specifically on the production of LH (leutenizing hormone). The result is
that it increases the production of progesterone, which helps to regulate the
menstrual cycle. Vitex is not a fast acting herb and may need several months to
build up in your system.

Take during the first half of your cycle and stop when you‘ve ovulated

 Red Raspberry Leaf
It has the reputation of helping to relax the uterus. It is also recommended to help
the fertilized egg attach to the uterine lining and stay attached. It is a
phytoprogesterone, which is a plant that acts like progesterone, therefore it can be
used to increase progesterone levels in the body

It is best to take it as an infusion (one ounce of dried raspberry leaves brewed
overnight in a quart of boiling water). Strain the leaves, and drink hot or cold,
with honey if you prefer. You can refrigerate leftovers.

Can take throughout your cycle

 Red Clover

It contains estrogen like compounds which promote estrogen production which can boost estrogen levels in women with estrogen deficiencies. Red Clover also contains calcium and magnesium which can relax the nervous system and improve fertility. Like red
raspberry, it is often recommended to drink the infusion during pregnancy.

To make an infusion put one ounce of dried blossoms in a quart jar filled with
boiling water, and steep overnight.

Can take throughout your cycle; best taken in combination with red raspberry.

 False unicorn root

Like red clover, it can help balance hormone levels by making up for a shortage
of estrogen or encouraging your body to excrete excess amounts. It has a
normalizing effect on the ovaries and strengthens the lining of the womb.

Take during the first half of your cycle, and stop when you‘ve ovulated

 Dong Quai

It is an ancient Asian herb which is known as the female hormone regulator. It
acts like an estrogen ―modulator‖ which activates or suppresses estrogen receptors
within the pituitary to even out the hormones that bring on ovulation. It has also
been attributed with helping to build a receptive uterine lining.

Evening Primrose

This can dramatically improve the production of more sperm friendly cervical
fluid, also known as ―egg white cervical mucus.‖ It may take a month or two to
build up.

Take during the first half of your cycle and stop once you‘ve ovulated. EPO is a
prostaglandin and can cause the uterus to contract and the cervix to dilate.
Therefore, once you ovulate you should replace it with Flax Seed Oil which also
contains essential fatty acids without the prostaglandins.

 Essential Fatty Acids (EFA’S)

Omega-3 and Omega-6 are essential fatty acids (EFA‘s) that are essential for
maintaining good reproductive health. Unfortunately, our bodies cannot
manufacture these EFA‘s, so they must be obtained from outside sources -- from
the food we eat or the supplements we take.

EFA‘s are very important to take when trying to conceive as they act as hormone
regulators. Both Omega-3 and Omega-6 are also important in the development of
sperm. It‘s important to have a balance of these EFA‘s however most people
have much more Omega-6‘s in their diet than Omega-3‘s because Omega-6‘s are
found in eggs, meat, whole grains, cereals, polyunsaturated oils from vegetables
and nuts, and most packaged foods and baked goods. Most often, western diets do
not require supplementation of Omega-6 because they tend to be very high in
Omega-6‘s.

 Paba

PABA (para-aminobenzoic acid) stimulates the pituitary gland and sometimes
restores fertility to some women who cannot conceive. Food sources include
molasses, mushrooms, spinach and whole grains.

 Green Tea

It is a powerful antioxidant that enhances your reproductive health by reversing
the effects of the environment on your body, such as aging, environmental toxins,
stress, lack of sleep and eating too many processed foods. It can assist your body
in the production of healthier eggs.

Dosage: Just 1 cup or more a day doubles your odds of conception every cycle,
according to a study in the American Journal of Public health.

 Dandelion Root Tea (sometimes called Dandelion Coffee)

This is a great substitute for coffee (tastes very similar), without the caffeine. It
has the added benefit of supporting liver detoxification which is very helpful for
reproductive health.

 Wheat Germ Oil

Wheat germ is high in zinc, and vitamin E and is a great source of Omega 3 fatty
acids. It may help to dilate both the fallopian tubes and the seminiferous tubules,
making the transport of both egg and sperm easier. It also can improve sperm
quality and quantity.

Dosage: 1/2 teaspoon to 1 tablespoon oil daily

Panax Ginseng (Asian Ginseng)

An effective herbal remedy for male infertility, Panax Ginseng is said to increase
sperm count, motility and testosterone levels.
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Green tea and orange pekoe tea
Flaxseeds are the richest plant-based source of omega-3 fatty acids and are easy to find in health food stores. Buy the seeds, grind them in a coffee grinder, and sprinkle them on cereal or toast or add them to a smoothie. If you're in a rush, buy a bottle of flaxseed oil and drizzle 1 tablespoon a day over salad, popcorn, or a baked potato. (Just don't cook with flaxseed oil; the heat destroys its beneficial nutrients.)
Vitex agnus-castus, also called Vitex, Chaste Tree, Chasteberry, or Monk's Pepper, is a native of the Mediterranean region.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitex_agnus-castus

There are many good supplements on the market that can improve your fertility.
Folic Acid (Folate) – Not only is this vital for all women trying to conceive to help reduce the risk of birth defects including spina bifida, in can also helps your reproductive system stay healthy.
Evening Primrose Oil (EPO) – Increase the amount of fertile cervical mucus you produce which the sperm need to swim through to reach the egg
https://www.babyhopes.com/articles/epo.html

Vitamin B6 – Well known for balancing your hormones and improving fertility for many women.
Vitex (Angus Castus) – Also know for balancing hormones and improving fertility.


•*Consider supplements like*FertilAid for Men.*When it comes to sperm health,*minerals*like zinc & selenium,amino acids*like l-carnitine, and*antioxidants*like Vitamin C and Vitamin E are*very*crucial to sperm health. L-carnitine is particularly important for sperm motility. A recent clinical study revealed that FertilAid increased both sperm motility and count.
https://www.babyhopes.com/articles/are-there-vitamins-to-help-increase-sperm-count.html
 
Lava, WTG :happydance: I knew it. :winkwink: It's hard sometimes sharing my excitement with you gals because I don't want to be wrong and then you get heartbreak but I'm SO extatic with the news in the room it's hard to hold back! :haha: :flower:

FM, I'm sorry your sick darlin, but keep puking your brains out if this means your pregnant. All the hyperstimming and side effects will be worth it when you hold that little one. :winkwink: :flower: :hugs:

As for the rest of you ladies. I'm confident you'll all reach that goal and I know the process can be SO frustrating....including the patience it takes for waiting. I just can't WAIT to celebrate with each of you when you finally set foot in "graduates". I keep saying we'll need a "graduates" reunion with our babies once everyone reaches the forum.
 
MA- I hope you are right, I feel uggh! If I am pg how will I ever be functional?

I know everyone in my office is thinking that I'm pg, especially since I have dry crackers and a sprite on my desk.
 
Hi everyone, what a supportive thread! :)

I concieved when I was 35 and it took me 3 months. I had been off the pill for 9 months but had taken it since 19. I was doing a lot of research prior to TTC as I'm impatient and wanted it to happen fast. (Hoping to) I can share some research I did maybe it helps someone.

What I took was:
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Thanks for stopping in, Mons. :hi: Congratulations on your pregnancy - how wonderful for you that it happened so quickly. Thanks for the well wishes - I'm sure we all appreciate the good baby mojo! I think most of us in here are under the care of a reproductive endocrinologist, though, and taking extra herbals/supplements could interfere with our prescribed treatments and medications. Thanks so much for thinking of us, though! :flower:
 
MA- I hope you are right, I feel uggh! If I am pg how will I ever be functional?

I know everyone in my office is thinking that I'm pg, especially since I have dry crackers and a sprite on my desk.

Oh yeah, it'll get better. If you have ms it may take you to second trimester to feel better. The symptoms this time around though seem different than you've had. That's why I keep getting so darned excited.

I'm all pins and needles right now.:wacko::haha:
 
MJ, I agree with the other girls that it could be ov spotting. Also, before I was TTC, I didn't pay much attention to my body. I never even gave a thought to how long my cycles were. I think those of that are TTC pay so much attention to all the little signs our body gives us, we get a little paranoid and tend to want to analyze every symptom. I know its hard and we tend to be even harder on ourselves. Hang in there and try to enjoy your weekend. I always feel like getting together with the girls for a few is a great cure to putting TTC out of our mind temporarily.:loopy:

Carol, I'm glad DH is being understanding and is being sensitive to what you are going through. Even though they may be going through it emotionally as well, they can't fully understand the physical toll all the medication, scan, bw, etc. have on our bodies. Its very important to have support from our DH's and hopefully they realize that it helps our stress level.

FM, I really hope your start to feel better. You sound miserable. I wish I could give you a hug. I hope you can relax this weekend before your trip and get some relief. I bet you are really stressed out too and that isn't helping you feel better physically. TTC, IUI's and all the medication is a vicious cycle and it really takes its toll. Its so hard going through all of this and keeping it hush-hush from those around us. I bet you can get your sweet DH to pamper you this weekend. Even a back rub can do wonders.:hugs:

Mons75, I tried all of those for about 5 months straight and no BFP. I stopped taking all the herbal supplements because it was making too much of a dent in our bank account and I figure we better just save up for IVF or adoption. I even had DH on supplements too and his sperm count actually went down. I admit, I'd try anything to get my BFP but none of those supplements worked for me.

AFM, I had some shocking news today. I had lunch with a friend who is a year older that me (38). She got pregnant with her oldest son when she was 19 and raised him by herself. She is a wonderful single mom to 2 boys. She just told me that her 18 year old son got his GF pregnant and they are going to have the baby:saywhat:. I guess I'm shocked because she is going to be a grandma. I said that if they decide to not keep the baby I'd love to adopt. She is not happy about the pregnancy and already suggested I adopt the baby because she knows we've been TTC and she doesn't want this to ruin her son's life. I guess his GF thinks its cute to be pg eventhough she doesn't have a driver's license or a job and she wants to keep the baby since some of her friends are pg too. I just don't get why things happen like they do. I think its time for some :wine:
 
supplements worked for me.

AFM, I had some shocking news today. I had lunch with a friend who is a year older that me (38). She got pregnant with her oldest son when she was 19 and raised him by herself. She is a wonderful single mom to 2 boys. She just told me that her 18 year old son got his GF pregnant and they are going to have the baby:saywhat:. I guess I'm shocked because she is going to be a grandma. I said that if they decide to not keep the baby I'd love to adopt. She is not happy about the pregnancy and already suggested I adopt the baby because she knows we've been TTC and she doesn't want this to ruin her son's life. I guess his GF thinks its cute to be pg eventhough she doesn't have a driver's license or a job and she wants to keep the baby since some of her friends are pg too. I just don't get why things happen like they do. I think its time for some :wine:

Super big :hugs: for you for this, that is just so hard, we cant understand why God does the things he does, all we can do is have patience and know that our time WILL come!!!!! :dohh: Ugh, wants to keep the baby because some of her friends are pg, omg, yea that will change when she realizes the baby actually needs attention!! Hang in there honey, remember each bfp brings your little one closer to you!!
 
Missyt- I know what you mean, I know people I went to highschool with that are already grand mothers too! She might think it's cute now but it won't be when she is getting up in the middle of the night, and trying to go to school, or when she wants to hang out with friends and can't. The cuteness will be all gone then.
 
Happy Auntie, oh ok, sorry I didn't know... Good luck all! xxx
 
Chris and FM, you girls nailed it on the head. And my friend was saying the same thing, she won't think its cute when she has to wake up in the middle of night, can't hang out with friends, etc. My friend is so distraught because the girl has no license and her son just graduated HS last year and has his first job working construction. That means he'll have to take off work to bring the baby to doctor's appointments, do all the shopping, etc and all that will hurt his pay check. Its so strange because I remember him when he was a typical pre-teen playing video games and I went to his graduation last year. I really appreciate my friend thinking about me and saying I'd take the baby without even telling me first. She recognizes that I am grown up enough to be a responsible mom and be able to provide for the child because I'm ready. Life is so unfair that we are in prime fertility when we are young, immature, broke and don't know the ways of the world. Things would make so much more sense for us to have our prime fertility in our 30's and 40's when we are mature, responsible, wiser and able to provide financially. I feel for my friend though. I can't imagine her stress right now. And the girl's parents aren't helping either. I guess they think its cute too.
 
Chris and FM, you girls nailed it on the head. And my friend was saying the same thing, she won't think its cute when she has to wake up in the middle of night, can't hang out with friends, etc. My friend is so distraught because the girl has no license and her son just graduated HS last year and has his first job working construction. That means he'll have to take off work to bring the baby to doctor's appointments, do all the shopping, etc and all that will hurt his pay check. Its so strange because I remember him when he was a typical pre-teen playing video games and I went to his graduation last year. I really appreciate my friend thinking about me and saying I'd take the baby without even telling me first. She recognizes that I am grown up enough to be a responsible mom and be able to provide for the child because I'm ready. Life is so unfair that we are in prime fertility when we are young, immature, broke and don't know the ways of the world. Things would make so much more sense for us to have our prime fertility in our 30's and 40's when we are mature, responsible, wiser and able to provide financially. I feel for my friend though. I can't imagine her stress right now. And the girl's parents aren't helping either. I guess they think its cute too.

Oh goodness, I was at the perinatal center today for 4 HOURS!:wacko: I will tell you...my husband and I were SO ticked off at some of these so called "parents" going in with their 3rd and 4th kid who weren't parenting their cute little ones. One parent was hollard at for allowing his toddler to stand on the table...He then allowed his kid to stand on the chair where while the father was talking the kid was trying to pry the heavy picture off the wall and almost did. While his infant brother was crawling half way out the door and almost got his head slammed in it. My husband almost grabbed the kid and handed him to the father to give him a good talking to but I kindly grabbed Dougs arm and told him we were NOT the parent and while it made us sick to watch this knowing there are couples out there who CAN be good parents, we had to sit and watch. It's hard not to sit these parents down and tell them they need to be more active in their childs life. It's also hard not to reprimand the older ones that end up out of control because of said parents while in public. I have a hard time sitting back watching...knowing that these SAME kids end up in the foster system or in Juvenile hall.

Just SO SICK of seeing these young kids not ready to be parents have kid after kid and don't have the inability to parent your child so you can keep them safe. It drives me INSANE! I mean, I'LL take your kid. I've been trying for ten years. As you said we all have the means, hopefully this patience during the process will be a testing of the patience we'll have needed as our kids grow.
 
Still reeling from lava's great news! YAY!!! Although you've "graduated", please don't leave us, lava, because we need that :bfp: juju to rub off on the rest of us!!! :haha:

AFM, I could not be more confused about what the hell my body is doing. Today is CD17 and I have light spotting this morning. WTH? CBFM still reading "high". Again, WTH? AF isn't due until June 12th. No cramps, just some gurgling so I don't think it's early AF. I ditched the progesterone this cycle because I'm supposed to take it the day after I get a peak reading on the CBFM, but since no peak, no progesterone. Maybe that's it? I have no clue. ERRGGGHH...Thank God today is an early day out of work (we only work 1/2-days on Fridays during the summer) so my work girlfriends and I are going to drown our sorrows at the pub down the street. Only one of the 3 girls knows what's going on with me, so I will just chalk my mood up to work-stress for the other 2, but I'm so confused about what's happening to me, it's making me weepy, seriously. I want to run away, but how do I run away from myself? {sigh...}

Honey really dumb question but have you taken a pg test?

Yea for 1/2 day fridays, i wish i could do that, then again i could not handle being here the extra hours mon - thurs lol.

Dont be weepy, you go have some fun at the pub, and just relax, its friday, enjoy yourself, and just say WHATEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!:hugs:

I don't think I could be preg since I'm spotting, no? And CD17 would be too early to test, isn't it? (AF is due in 9 days) I guess I have to say "WHATEVS" because what else am I going to do besides throw back a few pints tonight, right? Thank God the Whatevs Wagon is self-propelling! :drunk:
 
Still reeling from lava's great news! YAY!!! Although you've "graduated", please don't leave us, lava, because we need that :bfp: juju to rub off on the rest of us!!! :haha:

AFM, I could not be more confused about what the hell my body is doing. Today is CD17 and I have light spotting this morning. WTH? CBFM still reading "high". Again, WTH? AF isn't due until June 12th. No cramps, just some gurgling so I don't think it's early AF. I ditched the progesterone this cycle because I'm supposed to take it the day after I get a peak reading on the CBFM, but since no peak, no progesterone. Maybe that's it? I have no clue. ERRGGGHH...Thank God today is an early day out of work (we only work 1/2-days on Fridays during the summer) so my work girlfriends and I are going to drown our sorrows at the pub down the street. Only one of the 3 girls knows what's going on with me, so I will just chalk my mood up to work-stress for the other 2, but I'm so confused about what's happening to me, it's making me weepy, seriously. I want to run away, but how do I run away from myself? {sigh...}

Honey really dumb question but have you taken a pg test?

Yea for 1/2 day fridays, i wish i could do that, then again i could not handle being here the extra hours mon - thurs lol.

Dont be weepy, you go have some fun at the pub, and just relax, its friday, enjoy yourself, and just say WHATEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!:hugs:

I don't think I could be preg since I'm spotting, no? And CD17 would be too early to test, isn't it? (AF is due in 9 days) I guess I have to say "WHATEVS" because what else am I going to do besides throw back a few pints tonight, right? Thank God the Whatevs Wagon is self-propelling! :drunk:

Everybody's body is different but I NEVER spot. Also, I'd wait until She's actually due to test. If you miss her, TEST!:winkwink::flower:
 

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