TTC 1st child 35+ (Please spoiler any PG news/announcements).

[skye2010]

Macwooly, I didn't know that was a Christian story but it's one of my favorites. I'm a great believer in holding on to anything that would keep you afloat regarding it's respectful of other people. xxx

 

[Dwrgi]

Hello guys!! How are you all??? Just wanted to pick your brains this morning!

Thinking of you HA, by the way, and hope that the IUI goes well tonight-or possibly tomorrow!

I'm trying to organise my holidays, and am thinking of Menorca-anybody been there? Mahon has been recommended..... I also fancy Portugal, but am put off by the over commercial reputation it has.......

Saw 'Senna' last night at the cinema-so emotional and sad, had a good blub. He was a hero of mine in the 80s and 90s. Only 34 years old and dead and so much to live for. We have to enjoy our lives guys!!!!

Butterfly-are you feeling better hun?? Hope you're feeling a bit cheerier-your hormones may be all over the place after ov and all that BDing!! Fingers crossed for your BFP!

Skye-that's a terrible story about that poor woman with the breach birth, OMG. What are we living in, a Third World country....?? I would defo give that hospital a severe swerve. What's a doula??? Also, I hope you get your 12 week scan sorted, how annoying that they didn't process your application. Honestly, if you knew how many complaints I had about my local hospital after my ectopic/mmc, you'd be crying. I wrote a very long letter of complaint and then met with the Head of Midwifery and Head of Obs & Gynae and had a BIG FAT apology from them. Doesn't change anything though..

MA-hope you're feeling a tad better today. You're certainly going through it. I sympathise with you over your quarrel, some people are soooooooooooooooo insensitive. Better out than in though, I say....

My temp rose yesterday which probably meant I ovulated on Sunday but down again today and getting crampy type feelings but certain they're not ov pains. Probably wind-! Or, I didn't sleep well, having been hyper stimulated by the film...... this always makes my temps drop (not getting any sleep, not films, just to clear that up!!)!

Right, I have 60 Year 7 reports to write so I'd better get a wriggle on (Skye, you made me laugh-relaxing in advance of treatment!!! I wish! Teaching is not a very relaxing environment!!! That's what my holiday is specifically planned for, and I can't wait!!!)

Lots of love and to you all, and have a good day!!
Axxxx

 

[Dwrgi]

Sorry to go on, does anybody know what EC levels are?????

Thank you!!!
xxxxxxxxxxxx

 

[purplelou]

Hi ladies - hope everyone is well!

MA - that is precisely what forums are for - so you can lean on members or learn from them and share your fears/worries - as often as you need to. it is not exclusive from your spiritual beliefs or medical needs! hope you are feeling better now

Skye - that nurse should be so ashamed!! I cannot understand why people go into the profession if they don't want to care for and help people!!

HA - I am keeping everything crossed for you

Karen - welcome to the thread. the ladies here are wonderful!!

to everyone - sending to you all - hope your day is lovely!

 

[skye2010]

Yeah it really is scary. Purplelou that nurse is on court right now for not doing her job properly. I was first referred to that hospital for fertility. They lost DH's samples twice. The consultant we were booked for never sew us instead another woman dr who was very pregnant and very smug about it sew us. At the time I wasn't sure about IVF, DH and I argued over it. When Dh mentioned this she started questioning if we are a fit couple to have a baby. Although this sort of thing is so common between infertility couples yet she didn't have a clue. She made me feel like an inadequate wife who can't obey or please her husband. When I asked her what my chances are for conceiving she said "If God willing" She was clearly Middle Eastern and muslim and she winked at me as if we are in some sort of sisterhood that I should trust her while she refused to give us enough info about any of the tx (just a leaflet) Gave me wrong info about which hospital I could have my tx and how many times I'm allowed. In the end she referred us to a hospital which is really far from me and not a very good reputation. So I ended up cancelling that cycle. Afterwards I found out I was allowed in the hospital I wanted but by that time we were so impatient we went for the private. This exercise cost me more than a year. When it came to booking a hospital for the pregnancy I steered clear out of them.

Dwrgi I really admire you for going through so many papers. Woow you have done well Are they almost finished. Hopefully you will have a nice vacation before the tx. By the way are you having the tx while on summer holidays? Might save you some stress actually. (woorying about getting back to work, rushing to catch a bus etc)

Dunno what you mean by EC levels. In which context you read it? Is it Eastrogen? Or egg collection? Doula is a midwife I suppose mb MA knows about it.

 

[HappyAuntie]

OOOH nooo just lost my msg the third time. Seriously can't BNB members not sort out this problem. It's soo annoying and time consuming. Right this will have to be a bit watered down version of the msg I just lost cause I can't just sit here all day ((( GRRRRR!!!!!

HA, The med I mentioned before is called Cetrotide. That's what out clinic use anyway. One of the girls was on it half her stimms. (5-6) days She was being pumped up with high doses of meds. I actually was without stim med for 2 days before my trigger. Just like a ripening avocado on a window sill. Better have the eggs as mature as possible. Also eastrogen levels are important to be high enough cause it prepares your lining for implantation and helps sustain the pregnancy. Don't worry that they are keeping you. Your dr would know the best time to trigger once everything is looking good. Loads of good luck bb. Hope you would have a strong sticky baby who would stay with you for 9 months xxx

I have started highlighting and copying my entire message before posting it, just in case the server goes wonky and I lose it....

Thanks for the info. And the thought of my eggies ripening like avocado on the windowsill is hilarious! I know it's important for everything to be just right before triggering, it's just frustrating. And uncomfortable.

Dwrgi, A doula is not quite a midwife - she is there to provide non-medical support to the mother. Wikipedia has a pretty good description: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doula

Hope you all have a good day, ladies!

 

[lavalux]

Just checking in to say "hi" to my lovely TTC 1st 35+ girls. I am not doing a great job keeping up with everyone this week but I promise to catch up over the weekend.

HA, just wanted to wish you well on your IUI tomorrow in case I miss it. I'm praying for you that this is the one! Lots of good embies this time. Good luck.

Macwooly, I really like that story you shared. I definitely believe God cares for us and gives us his help through people he puts in our path along the way. I have read that women who are dealing with fertility issues have better outcomes when they are part of a support network.

 

[Dwrgi]

Just checking in to say "hi" to my lovely TTC 1st 35+ girls. I am not doing a great job keeping up with everyone this week but I promise to catch up over the weekend.

HA, just wanted to wish you well on your IUI tomorrow in case I miss it. I'm praying for you that this is the one! Lots of good embies this time. Good luck.

Macwooly, I really like that story you shared. I definitely believe God cares for us and gives us his help through people he puts in our path along the way. I have read that women who are dealing with fertility issues have better outcomes when they are part of a support network.

I'm thinking of you lots at the moment Lava, and have all fingers and toes crossed for your scan tomorrow!

Good luck, hun!
xx

 

[Butterfly67]

Skye - thanks you did tease a little smile - not sure why I feel so down but am hoping that dwrgi is right and it is hormones jumping about for no real reason - burst into tears yeasterday for not much reason really
What a pain about your 12 week scan - it does seem that the hospitals here are a little incompetent - I have a sick aunt and her test results are constantly delayed and not sent to the doctor. Hope you get it sorted anyway.

MA - Sorry you have had a rough time and people are upsetting you. I'm not hugely religious but I think you should just hold on to your own faith through this and ignore what other people say - you are the one that knows best and that has been shown

FM, not too long before you have your first appointment, I think when we know that things are happening and that there is a chance of progress then we can feel better about stuff.

HA - good luck with the procedure - don't know much about it but keeping everything crossed for you.

Dwrgi - I was going to see that film last night as am also an F1 fan but decided I had to cut out any expenses for the time being but will try and see it when it's on dvd! Maybe best not to see it now if it is a tearjerker anwyway! Went out for a long bike ride with a friend this morning which was good

Am going to order a home fertility test kit for me - BF said why don't I test me first and if I am ok he will test too which I thought was fair enough. I don't know why but I don't like going to the doctors but I know I should. I have out off a smear test for 3 years and I feel bad about that but I always manage to come up with excuses A friend of mine that I have just told about the ttc has said why don't I think about IVF but I think that is down the road a bit but it was not something I had thought about before, now I think I will look at every possibility

Also saying hello and sending to macWooley,purple,never,lava,akasha,padbrat and anyone else I have missed (sorry) and thanks for making me feel a bit better ladies.

ETA Sorry OMM, didn't mean to forget you

 

[onmymind17]

Hi Everyone )

Dwrgi, thanx for askin after me hon. I do grab a sleep whenever I can and during the night it's a little better nowadays. I do wake up a few times but I must have been so tired last couple of days I slept like a log yesterday. ))
I just want you to keep positive and relaxed as much as possible before your treatment. It will be so much easier if you feel more positive to sit through it all while tx. We will all be here to support you whenever you need us. I wish that you would have your baby very soon. When is your vacation?

Lava Hugs and many hugs

Luvy, I'm sorry that you are upset. TTc does take it out on all of us after some time. Sweety same advise goes to you. Keep as much positive as you can. Believe it will happen. If you have tried naturally for a while starting a tx really is the best option. I'm glad you are looking fwd to it. There are some women who conceive naturally after trying for so long even after failed tx cycles. But the longer that you TTC the more it takes out of your confidence. And you know how people say "Relax it will happen or give up it will happen" I don't know how that bsh...t is possible.
How can you relax or give up so you can conceive after trying for so long. So how long can you wait? But really keeping it positive does give us a lot of inner strength and calmness. Hope whatever you decide would bring you the best outcome.

MA why do you keep having the BV, is it to do with your diabetes? Poor thing. Can the drs not prevent it from happening somehow. Dunno sthg that stregthens your flora down there or sthg? I think eating yogurt was good for that sort of thing but not entirely sure. You have very good instincts though. Good girl you caught the danger on time... BTW you soo need a vacation my friend, hope you could do both. The US house prices should lowering right now and for a little more while I thought. The crisis isn't over yet and it doesn't look like it will be soon either xxx

Nevernever good luck with the tests Hope your Dh would come along to hold your hand through the process. When are you going to find out the results?

Macwooly great that you had a good appt and great news about the results. Don't be too worried or disheartened about DH's results either. I had great results and DH's were all ok too. We still didn't conceive naturally. Dunno why? Mb I could have. MB I should have relaxed and forget about it all "GRRRRR " like every other ignorant person I have met suggested. This is not a blame game and it's neither of your fault. The great thing about your results is you would most likely respond to any sort of tx really well. Hopefully you would get BFP very soon and not need any of all that. If not perhaps you can follow the medical protocol they offer. Assisted conception (if they do), IUI than IVF. We didn't do that cause assisted conception wasn't offered. And I dragged my feet about the tx thinking it will happen naturally. But it didn't, by the time I was ready to go I had no patience left for the IUI and dived straight into IVF. Thinking back now perhaps I should have given IUI a couple of goes at least. But all these choices are very personal. One thing I ca suggest is to find out a little about all your options before your consultation, than you would be more prepared to discuss it when you are there.

Hi Butterfly this is to tease a little smile from you

I think it might be a good idea for you to see specialist first and get your blood work done. Than ask BF if they suggest it. This way you would have an all around picture before you carry on trying.

Purplelou, I hate that when it happens. It happens often too Nowadays I just copy along as I write. Even if I lose my text I have most of it on memory

Chris how they treated your dad sounds really plain stupid. My experience with drs (mainly in Turkey) has been similar. They are too busy, reluctant or dismissive at times. Not all but definitely some. So whenever I have anything to do with drs I try to understand as much as I can what's going on. Otherwise if you give yourself to them without any questions you might have a disaster. So always ask a lot of questions and google too. I think both of your dreams are related. Pregnancy in dreams when you are not pregnant means you have a long term difficulty in life (Sthg that creates anxiety and upset) but giving birth means that you actually get rid of all the stress and hardship and you have good times ahead of you. So all in all i think it means that your hardship will be over soon. Hope it would be baby related

HA sounds like you have some great eggs there if your LH rises sharply thay can hold it back with a med so that shouldn't be a problem. Better wait as much as you can on stimms (don't even need to take the drugs if your eastrogen doesn't require) and get your eggs as ripe as possible. But they do seem quite well so come back from being cynical sweetie.

HA I wanted to write a bit longer for you but DH's hovering on my head again to go to bed. Loads of loads of hugs and lucks bb. xxx Will catch up tomorrow more. xxxx

I have learned with my dad to never fully trust doctors, i still to this day blame myself for the loss we had in October 09, i asked 3 times to have the progesterone checked and three times they refused and said it was fine, i should have insisted, if i had or if i had gone to my OB instead of listening to this stupid RE, my little Itty bean would be here today. Unfortunatly i cant change it, so i have to move on, but never again will i trust a doctor. Oh i love the meaning of the dreams, yep i am trying very hard to just relax and let it all go, hopefully my dream will come true and good things will happen.

 

[onmymind17]

MA- I'm so glad that all is well and Yay for being your own best advocate. I find on this journey you have to show that you have done your homework and that you aren't just going to accept mediocre care. It's sad we have to fight so hard during this already stressful time but we have to fight for our babies and future babies right? Job well done.

Lava- Hi, hope you aren't too sick but thats a good sign that all is well.

Never- Yes I'm on the whatever wagon right beside you and it feels great.

Dwrgi- You are right during this ttc journey you find out who you can talk to, I think talking to my friends even my best friends about my feeling and difficulty makes them uncomfrontable so I keep it to a minimum. I'm sure as I begin my IVF journey, your ladies and my dh will be the only ones on that journey with me. At least you guys understand

Macwooly- sounds like your appt was informative and productive, glad that you have a great dr who doesn't just send you home and tell you to keep trying.

HA- It hasn't been an easy task to move to IVF, it's been emotional and at first I didn't even want to think about it but after my last IUI resulted in a bfn and after my insurance coverage for fertility meds was exhausted and my DH expressed his disappointment at me not being pg this last time, I knew I had to give it a try as much for him as for myself.

You can go ahead and join us on the whatever wagon if you would like if that makes you feel better because there are enough of us here rooting for you and hoping and praying that those follies grow like crazy and get you that bpf.

Akasha- welcome you will absolutly love the ladies here, they keep me going. I hope you can convice your dh to have the SA.

AFM- I posted in my journal that I have 2 IVF consults scheduled for next month, my first one is July 6. I'm anxious but ready to hear what they have to say.

Thank you, You have no idea how much of a divine appointment your words are. I've had a rough couple of days with a friend who also has a cerclage that over the last several months has been so self absorbed she forgets she's been talking to someone who has had an emergent cerclage and has been bragging about her cervical length and how great life is the whole time and who NOW has turned on ME since finding out the other day that her babies are to the stitch. I won't go into it any further, but it's gotten hurtful and I finally broke down in a NOT so Godly way and expressed my "emotions". God always tells us NOT to work off emotion. I'm telling you, I've felt like I need a major attitude adjustment and should have let her wallow in her self absorbed ways and ignored her. Instead I feel terrible guilt for letting it ALL hang out after she told me I was relying LESS on God and Dr.'s and MORE on the women here on the IC thread.

HAD God NOT given me wisdom to be my own advocate or led me to that thread, I believe Amelia would have died before the cerclage was put in at 19weeks. I actually have THE WORST place for medical care unless I'm on top of it. Now I feel like I'm not trusting in God enough and allowing satan to lie with the things this girl has said...not to mention by spewing anger which makes ME look worse than her. Ugh! This girl has 5 kids. I have a son DEAD because of the medical care I received here.

I'm just outa sorts and while I want to be kind to everyone, not sound like I'm self absorbed myself and/or mean, much of the time I'm a screw up!

Oh honey you are not self absorbed or mean, and you are most definatly NOT a screw up. God understands, after all we are only human, we make mistakes, and sometimes its so very hard to keep taking crap from other people, there is that old saying that God help them who help themselves, they way i look at it is God cant help me with everything, he gave me the knowledge to do things, and becasue he gave you that knowledge your daughter is alive today. Your "Friend" and i say that with sarcasim should know better, if anything she is the one not trusting in God, she should be more compasionate to you and your situation instead of just worrying about her own, but people get that way, i had a lady here at work, who knew what i had been through to try and have a child, she told me that she had been trying to have a baby for 6 months, when i said to her that it sucks, but the normal time is a year, she looked at me and said "You dont know what it's like to want something so bad, and not have it happen" i was shocked and hurt, after 3 1/2 years and 4 losses I dont know what it feels like. I just let it go, because at that point my emotions were to charged up, well the next cycle she eneded up pg, and she came to me and said "I dont know if your religious, so i did not want to say anything before, but i just wanted you to know that i am praying for you every day" I thought that was so sweet. Your friend just like this girl are so wrapped up in their own little world that they cant see outside of it. I dont believe that God would want us to keep taking abuse from someone, so i think you did the right thing, and i dont think the Devil has any say in it, you obviously have a great love for God, the only way the Devil can get in is if you think he can. OK, now that i wrote a novel lol, i just wanted to offer you hugs and some love, you friend was right about one thing, we are better on this board because we all care about you, unlike her.

 

[onmymind17]

Hi Everyone )

Dwrgi, thanx for askin after me hon. I do grab a sleep whenever I can and during the night it's a little better nowadays. I do wake up a few times but I must have been so tired last couple of days I slept like a log yesterday. ))
I just want you to keep positive and relaxed as much as possible before your treatment. It will be so much easier if you feel more positive to sit through it all while tx. We will all be here to support you whenever you need us. I wish that you would have your baby very soon. When is your vacation?

Lava Hugs and many hugs

Luvy, I'm sorry that you are upset. TTc does take it out on all of us after some time. Sweety same advise goes to you. Keep as much positive as you can. Believe it will happen. If you have tried naturally for a while starting a tx really is the best option. I'm glad you are looking fwd to it. There are some women who conceive naturally after trying for so long even after failed tx cycles. But the longer that you TTC the more it takes out of your confidence. And you know how people say "Relax it will happen or give up it will happen" I don't know how that bsh...t is possible.
How can you relax or give up so you can conceive after trying for so long. So how long can you wait? But really keeping it positive does give us a lot of inner strength and calmness. Hope whatever you decide would bring you the best outcome.

MA why do you keep having the BV, is it to do with your diabetes? Poor thing. Can the drs not prevent it from happening somehow. Dunno sthg that stregthens your flora down there or sthg? I think eating yogurt was good for that sort of thing but not entirely sure. You have very good instincts though. Good girl you caught the danger on time... BTW you soo need a vacation my friend, hope you could do both. The US house prices should lowering right now and for a little more while I thought. The crisis isn't over yet and it doesn't look like it will be soon either xxx

Nevernever good luck with the tests Hope your Dh would come along to hold your hand through the process. When are you going to find out the results?

Macwooly great that you had a good appt and great news about the results. Don't be too worried or disheartened about DH's results either. I had great results and DH's were all ok too. We still didn't conceive naturally. Dunno why? Mb I could have. MB I should have relaxed and forget about it all "GRRRRR " like every other ignorant person I have met suggested. This is not a blame game and it's neither of your fault. The great thing about your results is you would most likely respond to any sort of tx really well. Hopefully you would get BFP very soon and not need any of all that. If not perhaps you can follow the medical protocol they offer. Assisted conception (if they do), IUI than IVF. We didn't do that cause assisted conception wasn't offered. And I dragged my feet about the tx thinking it will happen naturally. But it didn't, by the time I was ready to go I had no patience left for the IUI and dived straight into IVF. Thinking back now perhaps I should have given IUI a couple of goes at least. But all these choices are very personal. One thing I ca suggest is to find out a little about all your options before your consultation, than you would be more prepared to discuss it when you are there.

Hi Butterfly this is to tease a little smile from you

I think it might be a good idea for you to see specialist first and get your blood work done. Than ask BF if they suggest it. This way you would have an all around picture before you carry on trying.

Purplelou, I hate that when it happens. It happens often too Nowadays I just copy along as I write. Even if I lose my text I have most of it on memory

Chris how they treated your dad sounds really plain stupid. My experience with drs (mainly in Turkey) has been similar. They are too busy, reluctant or dismissive at times. Not all but definitely some. So whenever I have anything to do with drs I try to understand as much as I can what's going on. Otherwise if you give yourself to them without any questions you might have a disaster. So always ask a lot of questions and google too. I think both of your dreams are related. Pregnancy in dreams when you are not pregnant means you have a long term difficulty in life (Sthg that creates anxiety and upset) but giving birth means that you actually get rid of all the stress and hardship and you have good times ahead of you. So all in all i think it means that your hardship will be over soon. Hope it would be baby related

HA sounds like you have some great eggs there if your LH rises sharply thay can hold it back with a med so that shouldn't be a problem. Better wait as much as you can on stimms (don't even need to take the drugs if your eastrogen doesn't require) and get your eggs as ripe as possible. But they do seem quite well so come back from being cynical sweetie.

HA I wanted to write a bit longer for you but DH's hovering on my head again to go to bed. Loads of loads of hugs and lucks bb. xxx Will catch up tomorrow more. xxxx

Honestly I think it's the diabetes, or moreso being on the insulin which is safer for Amelia. I have a TON of greek yogurt and it's not helping. He said that BV is normal but when it reaches a bad level, your not having enough good bacteria. I can't eat enough yougurt and am on some refrigerated flora type stuff. I think it's just how much total insulin I'm getting. Being insulin resistant, I'm getting WAY too much insulin and what my body doesn't use stores as fat. My oral meds wouldn't do this, but they're not safe for Amelia and the one oral med that IS causes GI issues BAD!

HA, your follies are getting there! Looking forward to hearing how big they actually get. LOVE you have so many of them. Woohoo!

FM, oh yay! The next step. I'm SO EXCITED!

I did not know you were diabetic, i am too, im a type II i take Metformin right now, but i know if i ever have a sucessful pg i will be on insulin also. Hopefully your resistance will ease up soon and you can get a break from using so much insulin

 

[onmymind17]

OOOH nooo just lost my msg the third time. Seriously can't BNB members not sort out this problem. It's soo annoying and time consuming. Right this will have to be a bit watered down version of the msg I just lost cause I can't just sit here all day ((( GRRRRR!!!!!

Akasha welcome to the thread, hope you enjoy the company

HA, The med I mentioned before is called Cetrotide. That's what out clinic use anyway. One of the girls was on it half her stimms. (5-6) days She was being pumped up with high doses of meds. I actually was without stim med for 2 days before my trigger. Just like a ripening avocado on a window sill. Better have the eggs as mature as possible. Also eastrogen levels are important to be high enough cause it prepares your lining for implantation and helps sustain the pregnancy. Don't worry that they are keeping you. Your dr would know the best time to trigger once everything is looking good. Loads of good luck bb. Hope you would have a strong sticky baby who would stay with you for 9 months xxx

FM, I know it was a very difficult decision bb. Congratulations for finally taking the first step which is the hardest. After that you will just follow instructions It's a good idea to take your IUI history with you to the consultation. You can briefly write down which meds you used, what ammounts, how long and how many follies detected. Do mention your hyper stims last time. (Looks like you have a tendency) This would give them a good idea on how your body reacts to meds even though they might use totally different ones. Why do you have 2 different appts by the way. Is it 2 different clinics so you can compare what they offer. I think that would be a very smart thing to do. Good luck bb. Don't worry that your IUI's didn't work cause IVF cuts down on many steps of fertility that IUI doesn't cover. (swimmies moving and fertilising the egg, the embie traveling in fallopian tube, also more in control of lining) So you have a higher chance of a BFP. I'm rootig for you bb. Wishing you loads of sticky bb dust and good luck. Hope you would have much wanted BFP very very soon.

MA, poor thing you are dealing with so many health issues at the same time. Diabetes, BV, pregnancy, funneling, cerciage. Plus you are on bed rest which is kind of depressing on its own caues you are confined in one space a long time. Sweetie don't let any one stress you more than necessary. Avoid whoever does it for the time being. Right now you need only those who encourage and stimmulate you around. You need all your strength for Amelia and getting through 3,5 months for her. Everything else can wait. You can deal with it when you are in a better place once you have her lively in your arms. Where you get your strength doesn't matter. Praying, friends, family this thread or even closing in in yourself like a hermit. Whatever works best for both you and little Amelia really. ) Your friend probably didn't even realise she was upsetting you so don't hear it.

AFM I finally caught Dh's cold and I gargle with hot water and salt which seems to help. Yesterday I called the NHS hospital and required after my 12 week scan. The stupid admin people didn't process the application for me and didn't book the appt. I was there+ I called both GP and them before. All said we'll contact you. Of course they never did. If they won't book me an appt for the next 2 weeks I dunno what to do. Having a fit to these really sleepy sounding admin people doesn't help. Mb beginning of next week I should just drop by and talk to them in person cause I really need the scan report. My IVF clinic will review my drugs and probably discharge me. Than it's more scary cause NHS has far less control over pregnancies. In fact right now there is a lot of bad press in UK about the fertility and maternity units of NHS. We have the highest statistics of mc and babies dying while in the womb or birth in Europe cause the funding is really tight and clinics just don't follow the pregnancy enough to save lives. They're trying to put a quota on ceaserians. So say if a woman is in a situation where she needs an urgent cesarian and the on call dr is a young specialist who needs an authorisation. Her and bbs life would be at risk while the dr is figuring out if the quota allows it.
Also if you end up with a bad nurse you are in serious trouble. 2 weeks ago a woman lost her baby in my local hospital (Universtity hospital which is 5 mins away from me and we use it for everything else) She was in a lot of pain but the nurse insulted her for making too much fuss and being a bad mother cause she couldn't put up with the birth. She and husband begged to see the on call dr but nurse refused. The baby was tangled with the cord and was breached. I had heard of bad things about that hospital before so I deliberately chose one which is further from me. I can't go private after all the expense of IVF. I dunno if a doula would be worth it, what do they do and how expensive they are. Anyway maybe this talk is for graduates. Girls ignore it if it's not of interest.
Sticky bb dust for all of you. xxx

Wow, oh honey that is just so scary, and horrible, i cant believe that people would be like that, then again yes i can we have some real idiot doctors here, mostly i think because they are just too busy, they cant handle the load of work they have. Here in the states, they dont worry about cutting back, its the insurance companies and in the end us that take the hit, try and stay calm, and i am sure that i and all the other ladies on this board will pray for a happy and safe pg and delivery for you!!

 

[HappyAuntie]

Well, sh*t. SH*T!!!!!!

I just got back from my follie check and guess what - I ovulated last night.

No insemination now because it would be a waste of money - the sperm need to be there before ovulation.

I'll have a consult with the dr before the next cycle and they'll probably change my protocol now, add some ganirelix to make sure I don't ovulate on my own again.

F*ck it. I'm going back to bed now.

 

[Butterfly67]

Well, sh*t. SH*T!!!!!!

I just got back from my follie check and guess what - I ovulated last night.

No insemination now because it would be a waste of money - the sperm need to be there before ovulation.

I'll have a consult with the dr before the next cycle and they'll probably change my protocol now, add some ganirelix to make sure I don't ovulate on my own again.

F*ck it. I'm going back to bed now.

AARGH HA, bugg*r, cr*p

 

[Macwooly]

Well, sh*t. SH*T!!!!!!

I just got back from my follie check and guess what - I ovulated last night.

No insemination now because it would be a waste of money - the sperm need to be there before ovulation.

I'll have a consult with the dr before the next cycle and they'll probably change my protocol now, add some ganirelix to make sure I don't ovulate on my own again.

F*ck it. I'm going back to bed now.

I'm sorry to hear the procedure couldn't go ahead

 

[onmymind17]

Well, sh*t. SH*T!!!!!!

I just got back from my follie check and guess what - I ovulated last night.

No insemination now because it would be a waste of money - the sperm need to be there before ovulation.

I'll have a consult with the dr before the next cycle and they'll probably change my protocol now, add some ganirelix to make sure I don't ovulate on my own again.

F*ck it. I'm going back to bed now.

Ohhhhhhh nooooooooooooooooooo, oh honey i am so sorry, oh man that just sucks!!!! Sending you big

 

[onmymind17]

Ladies i am having a tough time staying on the whatever wagon today, its just one of those days that i am really wanting a baby. Most of the time i can just squelch the urge and tell myself to just enjoy life and what i have, but today is one of those days that i am just struggling. I try to wrap my mind around the fact that it just wont happen, but there is that little tiny voice in there that goes "It can happen" ugh...... Someobody strap me down on the whatever wagon will you!!

 

[Macwooly]

OMM

 

[skye2010]

OOh Ha that does suck. But it is completely the clinics fuck up not yours.If you get some bedding with DH anyway is that too late? Can't believe how can they risk ovulation. They should have used the med to hold back your LH. HA I'm sorry hon I hope they would take some responsibility with this cycle and offer it free next time.
xxx