TTC 1st child 35+ (Please spoiler any PG news/announcements).
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BF? Dwrgi? DrH, Nessaw, Mirium or Chickenyou guys have to cover me too this week!
Dashka, you can cover the dark chocolate covered almonds.
After all, its the polite thing to do... and we are very proper ladies...
Have a great weekend y'all!
LIls would love to help out but sorry not this weekend. My chart is looking fab, so I think I will O on Monday and after my terrible chart last month I really don't want to take any chances. So I'm the designated driver tonight
But if any of the other ladies would like to step in for me I would be very grateful 
Thanks Butterfly, have one (or two) for me.
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Welcome pbl_ge and Firefly. This is a fab thread the girls on here will offer you all the support you need.
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Hi lovelies. Sorry some of you are feeling poop, but thanks for taking on my wine last night!
Went and got a new Bra today as BB's sore, went from a 32E to a 34 FF! Omg!!
Lady H WOW!!!!!
You would be very popular with my DH I think that is the only reason he has agreed to us TTC 
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Hi Ladies!!! Back from vacation. Trip was relaxing and tiring at the same time, but it was soooo nice to be away. Missed you all!!! Just finished reading all the pages since last week. Ok, this will be a long post... really looking forward to catching up with you all.
Mirium - so glad your surgery went well and you are recovering. Hope you are relaxing and enjoying the weekend
Pad - sending lots of lovely pink your way! 
Dash - Ahhh lots of visits with the MIL. Keep enjoying that chocolate!!!!! Hope AD is getting more used to school and is coming home with lots to tell you! That is so wonderful to hear you had an emotional release during acupuncture... I hope you are feeling relaxed and renewed
Purple - 3 more weeks, and then no more work?!! Ohhhh how exciting!! So happy it is getting so close for you!!
DrHouse - Hope the temping is going well!! I have been doing the OPK's too. I have found that I have to test 2-3 times a day when I think my surge will happen!! My surge lasts literally hours. My tests are strips that I dip in a cup (Answer brand). The test line gets progressively darker in the 1-2 days before the surge happens (I *really* like that - it helps me calm down knowing that at least the LH is rising...). I test around 10:30am, and then at 5:30pm on the days leading up to the surge, and then on the days that I think I could surge, I test around 10:30am, then a few hours later around 1:00 or 2:00pm, and then around 5:00pm. I usually surge around 1:00-2:00pm and then by 5:00pm the positive is gone!! Just wanted you to know that mine is quick so you may want to test multiple times on the day you think it might happen. No freaking out if your strips aren't positive yet though!!
I do that every month when there is no test line, but eventually it appears. I haven't started temping but probably will in another couple months if no luck with a BFP before then. I do feel pains in the ovary area around O time, so that along with the +OPK surge and increase in CM, I'm pretty sure I'm ovulating (even though I'm not temping to confirm). I feel like I'm doing a little chemistry experiment when I do the OPK... My little scientific process: Get out test strip. Full up little dipping cup. Dip strip for 15-20 seconds (I actually time this haha). Lay strip down on bathtub rim. Use timer on my phone to time the 4-minutes I have to wait to look at the test line. Rinse dipping cup while waiting. I always wanted a chemistry set when I was little. Guess I got one now. LOL.
Grkprn - I'm so so sorry about the bleeding. I'm keeping everything crossed for you that a fetal pole shows up. Lots and lots of and positive thoughts and love to you!!
Butterfly, Lils - I do yoga for back pain too, so I hear ya!!! I also get sciatic nerve pain that is HORRIBLE if I don't do yoga at least twice a week. I hate having to work out just to keep the pain away - it's like I'm slaved to it. Ugh. But at least I know how to manage the pain now and I like yoga... I do DVDs at home... I love the 25-minute routines!!
Lils - we rented one of those multiple-bedroom houses on the beach too!! My DH's cousin was getting married so the bridal party, us and the parents of the wedding couple stayed there. It was a blast!!! The house was in Nags Head. After we were there for a couple days, we went to Manteo and stayed at a B&B. We loooooved Manteo!! Really cute little town. We also went to Kitty Hawk and saw where the Wright Bros did their first flight, which was a huge highlight for DH and I. I'm sorry work has been so exhausting!! I think I remember you said you work in accounting/finance, so you must be swamped with everyone trying to spend their $$ before the FY ends!!! I hope you are having some wonderful relaxing time this weekend. My work FY is ending Sept. 30 too... so we're all trying to wrap up and plan for next year too... bleh!! Only a couple weeks to go though, so there is light at the end of the tunnel
LadyH - LOL!!! Love it - you enjoy those knockers!!!
Chicken.... Oooo yay!! so you're thinking O on Monday?! Have fun with the associated prep work for O
Nessaw - boo that no internet in the classroom!!! Hope you are having a wonderful weekend!!
Owl - hope you're feeling better by now!! Also thanks for the heads-up on looking to see if insurance covers fertility treatments. Now I'll remember to look into that this fall since I'll be able to switch work insurance plans in the November timeframe if I need to... no idea what the plans offer... I'm on a pretty basic plan now.
Pbl_ge - hi and welcome!!! I'm so sorry for your loss... lots of love and Cape Cod sounds wonderful - I have always wanted to go there!!
Firebaby - hi and welcome!!
Froliky, Asryellah, Manuiti, Twinkle, Maddy and everyone else I missed, lots of love and
Some of you ladies are talking about IVF... all my best wishes. My BFF has a 6 year old with her ex, got remarried 2 years ago, had 2 m/c's within the past year, and is now about 8 weeks PG from IVF with a DE. She chose to do DE b/c her son is having to go for treatment for some genetic growth/development issues he has. After her two M/C's she decided that a DE with IVF was the way to go for her. I am so happy for her. It is inspiring to me that she took the steps she needed. That gives me hope. I will try naturally for a few more months and then will head to the fertility specialist for tests and help. I know IVF (and DE) is a big decision, but after seeing how happy my friend is now, it just made me realize how lucky we all are to have the options we have with modern medicine if we choose to go that route. It's still an egg and spermies that make the baby, and I still think there is a higher power that helps it happen. That is my personal take on it, and I think it is a wonderful option, and I will definitely consider it if I don't have luck with other methods. And... even if IVF doesn't take, I have read stories where ladies try IVF, don't succeed, and then get PG naturally afterwards (I guess the IVF stimulated their system), so I look to that as hope and possibility too.
AFM - Vacation in the Outer Banks of North Carolina was lovely. Got home late last night. Yes, def pledge to the vino!!!!
haha mmm wine. mmmmmmm. DH and I had a bottle of bubbly moscato on the trip - not very high alcohol % but it still got us both buzzed since we drank it quickly on an empty stomach!!! harharhar Well, tomorrow starts week 2 of the cycle for me... so it will be a week of green tea, whole milk, continuing the Cock (I mean CoQ10 haha) and vitamins, no more coffee or wine (they dry me out.... so big time boo), OPK chemistry set and 
. Lots and lots of
Mirium - so glad your surgery went well and you are recovering. Hope you are relaxing and enjoying the weekend
Pad - sending lots of lovely pink your way!
Dash - Ahhh lots of visits with the MIL. Keep enjoying that chocolate!!!!! Hope AD is getting more used to school and is coming home with lots to tell you! That is so wonderful to hear you had an emotional release during acupuncture... I hope you are feeling relaxed and renewed
Purple - 3 more weeks, and then no more work?!! Ohhhh how exciting!! So happy it is getting so close for you!!
DrHouse - Hope the temping is going well!! I have been doing the OPK's too. I have found that I have to test 2-3 times a day when I think my surge will happen!! My surge lasts literally hours. My tests are strips that I dip in a cup (Answer brand). The test line gets progressively darker in the 1-2 days before the surge happens (I *really* like that - it helps me calm down knowing that at least the LH is rising...). I test around 10:30am, and then at 5:30pm on the days leading up to the surge, and then on the days that I think I could surge, I test around 10:30am, then a few hours later around 1:00 or 2:00pm, and then around 5:00pm. I usually surge around 1:00-2:00pm and then by 5:00pm the positive is gone!! Just wanted you to know that mine is quick so you may want to test multiple times on the day you think it might happen. No freaking out if your strips aren't positive yet though!!
I do that every month when there is no test line, but eventually it appears. I haven't started temping but probably will in another couple months if no luck with a BFP before then. I do feel pains in the ovary area around O time, so that along with the +OPK surge and increase in CM, I'm pretty sure I'm ovulating (even though I'm not temping to confirm). I feel like I'm doing a little chemistry experiment when I do the OPK... My little scientific process: Get out test strip. Full up little dipping cup. Dip strip for 15-20 seconds (I actually time this haha). Lay strip down on bathtub rim. Use timer on my phone to time the 4-minutes I have to wait to look at the test line. Rinse dipping cup while waiting. I always wanted a chemistry set when I was little. Guess I got one now. LOL. Grkprn - I'm so so sorry about the bleeding. I'm keeping everything crossed for you that a fetal pole shows up. Lots and lots of
and positive thoughts and love to you!! Butterfly, Lils - I do yoga for back pain too, so I hear ya!!! I also get sciatic nerve pain that is HORRIBLE if I don't do yoga at least twice a week. I hate having to work out just to keep the pain away - it's like I'm slaved to it. Ugh. But at least I know how to manage the pain now and I like yoga... I do DVDs at home... I love the 25-minute routines!!
Lils - we rented one of those multiple-bedroom houses on the beach too!! My DH's cousin was getting married so the bridal party, us and the parents of the wedding couple stayed there. It was a blast!!! The house was in Nags Head. After we were there for a couple days, we went to Manteo and stayed at a B&B. We loooooved Manteo!! Really cute little town. We also went to Kitty Hawk and saw where the Wright Bros did their first flight, which was a huge highlight for DH and I. I'm sorry work has been so exhausting!! I think I remember you said you work in accounting/finance, so you must be swamped with everyone trying to spend their $$ before the FY ends!!! I hope you are having some wonderful relaxing time this weekend. My work FY is ending Sept. 30 too... so we're all trying to wrap up and plan for next year too... bleh!! Only a couple weeks to go though, so there is light at the end of the tunnel
LadyH - LOL!!! Love it - you enjoy those knockers!!!
Chicken.... Oooo yay!! so you're thinking O on Monday?! Have fun with the associated prep work for O
Nessaw - boo that no internet in the classroom!!! Hope you are having a wonderful weekend!!
Owl - hope you're feeling better by now!! Also thanks for the heads-up on looking to see if insurance covers fertility treatments. Now I'll remember to look into that this fall since I'll be able to switch work insurance plans in the November timeframe if I need to... no idea what the plans offer... I'm on a pretty basic plan now.
Pbl_ge - hi and welcome!!! I'm so sorry for your loss... lots of love and
Cape Cod sounds wonderful - I have always wanted to go there!!Firebaby - hi and welcome!!
Froliky, Asryellah, Manuiti, Twinkle, Maddy and everyone else I missed, lots of love and
Some of you ladies are talking about IVF... all my best wishes. My BFF has a 6 year old with her ex, got remarried 2 years ago, had 2 m/c's within the past year, and is now about 8 weeks PG from IVF with a DE. She chose to do DE b/c her son is having to go for treatment for some genetic growth/development issues he has. After her two M/C's she decided that a DE with IVF was the way to go for her. I am so happy for her. It is inspiring to me that she took the steps she needed. That gives me hope. I will try naturally for a few more months and then will head to the fertility specialist for tests and help. I know IVF (and DE) is a big decision, but after seeing how happy my friend is now, it just made me realize how lucky we all are to have the options we have with modern medicine if we choose to go that route. It's still an egg and spermies that make the baby, and I still think there is a higher power that helps it happen. That is my personal take on it, and I think it is a wonderful option, and I will definitely consider it if I don't have luck with other methods. And... even if IVF doesn't take, I have read stories where ladies try IVF, don't succeed, and then get PG naturally afterwards (I guess the IVF stimulated their system), so I look to that as hope and possibility too.
AFM - Vacation in the Outer Banks of North Carolina was lovely. Got home late last night. Yes, def pledge to the vino!!!!
haha mmm wine. mmmmmmm. DH and I had a bottle of bubbly moscato on the trip - not very high alcohol % but it still got us both buzzed since we drank it quickly on an empty stomach!!! harharhar Well, tomorrow starts week 2 of the cycle for me... so it will be a week of green tea, whole milk, continuing the Cock (I mean CoQ10 haha) and vitamins, no more coffee or wine (they dry me out.... so big time boo), OPK chemistry set and . Lots and lots of 
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Hi girls, would love to join u all in here. I'm turning 38 in Dec, OH is 44 in Oct & were TTC #1. Have not been trying very long mind you, but am wary due to our ages..
Currently I've got OH taking menevit, and I'm taking elevit, Chinese medicine, am temping (1st month!), & doing OPKS. As per my Chinese medicine lady I'm only having 1 coffee & 1 tea per day, & am TRYING to drink more water which I'm terrible with!
Yesterday OH & I had a good chat & we've agreed to go to see the doctor & ask to start having all the initial tests done to get an idea if things are 'working' correctly. Im really nervous of wasting time.
It's funny how ur perspective changes over time.. I used to think I'd never want to go down the IVF track- but now I know for certain that I'll do anything to have a baby. My close friend had her 1st child using IVF & Chinese medicine (same lady I'm using now for TCM!) & then fell pregnant 1st month of TTC naturally with her 2nd child. So I agree with the person who said maybe IVF & even pregnancy itself can put things back on track in ur body- my friend had tried for 5 yrs for her first child.
Anyway, some days I feel miserable & discouraged about TTC, & worry that I've missed the boat.. But today I'm feeling positive bcos it feels like we kinda have a plan going forward. I think AF is due this week- not certain, used cheapie OPKS this month which I felt were too ambiguous & couldn't really be sure that I Ov. So am not holding out hope for a BFP this month...
Have been reading all ur posts & looking forward to sharing the journey...
Currently I've got OH taking menevit, and I'm taking elevit, Chinese medicine, am temping (1st month!), & doing OPKS. As per my Chinese medicine lady I'm only having 1 coffee & 1 tea per day, & am TRYING to drink more water which I'm terrible with!
Yesterday OH & I had a good chat & we've agreed to go to see the doctor & ask to start having all the initial tests done to get an idea if things are 'working' correctly. Im really nervous of wasting time.
It's funny how ur perspective changes over time.. I used to think I'd never want to go down the IVF track- but now I know for certain that I'll do anything to have a baby. My close friend had her 1st child using IVF & Chinese medicine (same lady I'm using now for TCM!) & then fell pregnant 1st month of TTC naturally with her 2nd child. So I agree with the person who said maybe IVF & even pregnancy itself can put things back on track in ur body- my friend had tried for 5 yrs for her first child.
Anyway, some days I feel miserable & discouraged about TTC, & worry that I've missed the boat.. But today I'm feeling positive bcos it feels like we kinda have a plan going forward. I think AF is due this week- not certain, used cheapie OPKS this month which I felt were too ambiguous & couldn't really be sure that I Ov. So am not holding out hope for a BFP this month...
Have been reading all ur posts & looking forward to sharing the journey...
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hello ladies! How are we?
Welcome back Moon... holiday sounded divine! I actually tried DE myself, due to my genetic issues and also how many MC's I have had. It was a hard decision to make and it took a while to get our heads round it... but at the end of the day an egg is just one cell. It would be my body that built that cell with my Husband. Unfortuantely, the DE didn't work for us... but that wouldn't stop me from saying that if you feel comfortable with it do it... medically it feels like half an IVF as you don't have the eggs and then have them removed. You only have them put back in.
Welcome Juniper!
Butterfly how did you alcohol marathon go? Considering you were drinking for quite a few of us lol x
Purps.. only 3 weeks to go...how exciting!! I haven't even told work yet.... I may do so after the 24th Sept.
Have been really naughty.... I am going to my cousin's v posh wedding next weekend and I saw this lovely dress that i thought would hide my lumps and bumps well... so I have ordered it!!
I know I am going to have to have it taken up as I am only 5ft 1, but I love the colour and am hoping it doesn't swamp me...
Welcome back Moon... holiday sounded divine! I actually tried DE myself, due to my genetic issues and also how many MC's I have had. It was a hard decision to make and it took a while to get our heads round it... but at the end of the day an egg is just one cell. It would be my body that built that cell with my Husband. Unfortuantely, the DE didn't work for us... but that wouldn't stop me from saying that if you feel comfortable with it do it... medically it feels like half an IVF as you don't have the eggs and then have them removed. You only have them put back in.
Welcome Juniper!
Butterfly how did you alcohol marathon go? Considering you were drinking for quite a few of us lol x
Purps.. only 3 weeks to go...how exciting!! I haven't even told work yet.... I may do so after the 24th Sept.
Have been really naughty.... I am going to my cousin's v posh wedding next weekend and I saw this lovely dress that i thought would hide my lumps and bumps well... so I have ordered it!!
I know I am going to have to have it taken up as I am only 5ft 1, but I love the colour and am hoping it doesn't swamp me...
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Beautiful dress pad I love it.
DrH I have a very funny image of you in my head of you doing a supermarket sweep in the health food store. Buy Buy Buy I agree with pad a really good sign. XXX
DrH I have a very funny image of you in my head of you doing a supermarket sweep in the health food store. Buy Buy Buy I agree with pad a really good sign. XXX
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Welcome jules xxx 
Pad ..that dress is beautiful!! I would like to see a pic of you in it!!
DrH ...that's sods law! Buy all the stuff then it'll hopefully go to waste as you'll be preggers!
Huge big loves to you all xxx
Pad ..that dress is beautiful!! I would like to see a pic of you in it!!
DrH ...that's sods law! Buy all the stuff then it'll hopefully go to waste as you'll be preggers!
Huge big loves to you all xxx
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hi girls.
welcome juniper.
good shopping drh.
welcome back moondust.
lovely dress pad.
quick question-sorry if too much info.had ewcm this pm which i've only spotted once before.dilemma is we dtd on fri night and can't do it til tues cos oh has s/a tues am.have we missed the boat?
vx
welcome juniper.
good shopping drh.
welcome back moondust.
lovely dress pad.
quick question-sorry if too much info.had ewcm this pm which i've only spotted once before.dilemma is we dtd on fri night and can't do it til tues cos oh has s/a tues am.have we missed the boat?
vx
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Hi Ladies!
sorry I've been a bit absent on here - things have been so busy lately....
Firebaby - Welcome to the best thread! and good luck!
Dr H - nice romantic date night!! I'm impressed -enjoy those now! yay for trying acupuncture... you'll love it... Feel better soon! Yay for vitamin sale too!!!
Pbl - you'll get the hang of things & names on here in no time! Cape Cod sounds lovely... take care of yourself!
Lady H - Supercharged bb's!!! hope all is well...
Lils - loved your post!! (but then again I always do!) Rats about the dream! 
they seem so real don't they? 
Glad you can "practice" with your friends baby - but I know what you mean about the yearning - it sucks big time. You'll get there -I know it! Feel better soon and don't work too hard hun...
Butterfly - thanks for making the big sacrifice for everyone with the
hope you are well hun
Mirium - hope you are re-cooping ok.... Yes you can get FF friend free version or upgrade to VIP version.... I tried it free for a month and then upgraded cause I wanted to keep all the bells and whistles. Good luck!!
Pad - loving the new ticker girl! and the Red dress - WOW!! - "umm who's the hot chick who just walked in???"
take care hun!
Purps - 3 weeks hun!! wow it will fly by now!! can't wait to see our little Purplette!!!
Dwrgi - (in case you're lurking) - We miss you and hope you are doing ok!
Chicken - GL catching that eggy girl!!
Moondust - welcome back from vacay! Great post! - wow you dip your OPK test for 15 sec?? Mine is only 5 seconds but different brand I guess. Good luck with this cycle!!!
Grkprn - thinking and praying for you hun!
Juniper - welcome to the best thread!!GL to you!! Glad to hear you are both going for tests!
Nessaw - if you think you are ovulating today then Bd'ing 2 days before is still ok - I've seen lots of people get preggers - but if it's just the start of EWCM then hard to tell when you will ov.... do you have any idea when you ovulate? what CD are you? maybe Bding on Tuesday will still be fine?? Good luck!!
Hello and hugs to everyone I didn't mention!!! and hope all the sick ladies are better soon!!
AFM - I would be glad to take on the chocolate almonds for everyone!! but no vino - as I think I'm ovulating today and think we had good timing this month - we DTD last night and got another one in this afternoon.... Fingers crossed - I am praying that some miracle will happen and I'll get preggers this month (my LAST chance before IVF)...
if not then I'll be heading to RE on Oct 1 or 2 to start bc pill before IVF...
A girl can dream - we've seen it happen many times before right???
sorry I've been a bit absent on here - things have been so busy lately....
Firebaby - Welcome to the best thread! and good luck!
Dr H - nice romantic date night!! I'm impressed -enjoy those now!
yay for trying acupuncture... you'll love it... Feel better soon! Yay for vitamin sale too!!!Pbl - you'll get the hang of things & names on here in no time! Cape Cod sounds lovely... take care of yourself!
Lady H - Supercharged bb's!!!
hope all is well...Lils - loved your post!! (but then again I always do!)
Rats about the dream! they seem so real don't they? Glad you can "practice" with your friends baby - but I know what you mean about the yearning - it sucks big time. You'll get there -I know it! Feel better soon and don't work too hard hun...Butterfly - thanks for making the big sacrifice for everyone with the
hope you are well hunMirium - hope you are re-cooping ok.... Yes you can get FF friend free version or upgrade to VIP version.... I tried it free for a month and then upgraded cause I wanted to keep all the bells and whistles. Good luck!!
Pad - loving the new ticker girl!
and the Red dress - WOW!! - "umm who's the hot chick who just walked in???"take care hun!
Purps - 3 weeks hun!! wow it will fly by now!! can't wait to see our little Purplette!!!
Dwrgi - (in case you're lurking) -
We miss you and hope you are doing ok! Chicken - GL catching that eggy girl!!
Moondust - welcome back from vacay! Great post! - wow you dip your OPK test for 15 sec?? Mine is only 5 seconds but different brand I guess. Good luck with this cycle!!!
Grkprn - thinking and praying for you hun!
Juniper - welcome to the best thread!!
GL to you!! Glad to hear you are both going for tests!Nessaw - if you think you are ovulating today then Bd'ing 2 days before is still ok - I've seen lots of people get preggers - but if it's just the start of EWCM then hard to tell when you will ov.... do you have any idea when you ovulate? what CD are you? maybe Bding on Tuesday will still be fine?? Good luck!!
Hello and hugs to everyone I didn't mention!!! and hope all the sick ladies are better soon!!
AFM - I would be glad to take on the chocolate almonds for everyone!!
but no vino - as I think I'm ovulating today and think we had good timing this month - we DTD last night and got another one in this afternoon.... Fingers crossed - I am praying that some miracle will happen and I'll get preggers this month (my LAST chance before IVF)... if not then I'll be heading to RE on Oct 1 or 2 to start bc pill before IVF...A girl can dream - we've seen it happen many times before right???
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I wouldn't worry about it if you're temping/OPK. I have never, ever seen EWCM. Obviously I have ovulated, but for some reason don't generate EWCM. I have to rely on temping and other cues to determine ovulation.
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Hehehe you are right DrH... now you have paid for all that fertility stuff you will be preggers and not use any of it! Hahhaa
Same for you Dash... as I recall that very thing happened to Carole when she fell with her lovely girl... here's hoping!
Neesaw... I am a dufus.. no idea!
Hey Chicken!
Hello Nikki not long for you either... and Purps do you know what team you are on?
Don't know if dress will arrive on time for the wedding and will def need taking up so have now decided to go in turquoise instead with silver... the dress is kind of a 50's style so it doesn't cling to my stomach. We have a mess do coming up that I may wear the red dress too.
Had completely forgot to spoiler my ticker etc... if it upsets anyone please let me know and I will spoiler it. xxx
Mwah to all
Same for you Dash... as I recall that very thing happened to Carole when she fell with her lovely girl... here's hoping!
Neesaw... I am a dufus.. no idea!
Hey Chicken!
Hello Nikki not long for you either... and Purps do you know what team you are on?
Don't know if dress will arrive on time for the wedding and will def need taking up so have now decided to go in turquoise instead with silver... the dress is kind of a 50's style so it doesn't cling to my stomach. We have a mess do coming up that I may wear the red dress too.
Had completely forgot to spoiler my ticker etc... if it upsets anyone please let me know and I will spoiler it. xxx
Mwah to all
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