TTC#2 and SO EXCITED! join me

[banana07]

Day after he was born.

 

[banana07]

Last week

 

[elt1013]

Well hello everyone,
It's been such a long time. Everyone's babies are beautiful. Cooper is 16 months old now and quite the wild child! He has kept me very busy! I'm so happy to see everyone doing so well

 

[banana07]

Oh wow ElT 16 months that is unbelieveable how quickly time is flying by!!

Witch got me this morning so won't be joining you on the train this month Hann!

 

[IsaacRalph]

Hello girls! Long time no hear. I have been meaning to reply for ages but life keeps getting in the way. So Eddie is 8 months now and almost crawling, rolling and eating me out of house and home. He is almost 20lb so quite a bit bigger than his brother at the same age! He is the spitting image of me as a baby and has just got his 3rd tooth. Banana good luck with the ntnp that will be our approach to things also. I got my cycles back just 4 months after Edwards birth whilst I was still bfing. I stopped when he was 6 months. Cycles are regular atm at every 32 days ovulating around cd17/18 I think. Won't be temping or doing opks this time. To be honest me and dh are just enjoying having sex without that pressure of trying so hard to conceive a sibling for our 1st ds because whatever happens they have each other so that's a big relief. I have given myself some sort of time limit to it all as ideally don't want to be over 38 when/if we were to ever conceive again and I'm 37 in august. I have recently been diagnosed with hypothyroidism and I did have brief thyorid illness after my 1st ds but have to take lifelong tablets now. What I have discovered is I have a high level of antibodies fighting against my thyroid tissue so an autoimmune condition. What is interesting is that both underlying and overt hypothyroidism and having these antibodies present can both cause infertility either early losses or total infertility! I have had 2 miscarriages and after my 1st thyroid attack after ds infertility for more than 2 years until our treatment. I'm hoping that with the right treatment I will be able to conceive naturally as this is the only thing that makes sense and seems out of place. Who knows???? Banana your ds looks like a dream boat. My labour with Edward went without any problems and I had him naturally in a birthing pool with just entonox. Bloody hurt like hell but we were both out of hospital 6 hours after his birth totalling just 12hrs on delivery suite. No stitches and breastfeeding all went well.

 

[IsaacRalph]

Eddie when he was a few days old xx

 

[IsaacRalph]

Both of my babies a few week ago xx

 

[IsaacRalph]

Hello Elt! Lovely to hear from you. Are you stopping at your two?? Any plans for another??

 

[banana07]

Hey Ladies

How is everyone!! Very very long time no chat

We are still trying for #3. Went to the fertility clinic last week and have started the tamoxifen already and will be triggering next week hopefully I was only 4 months trying but anyone I know that didn't have problems got preg in first 3 months so not taking any chances this time!

We are away in July when I should be getting scans and triggers so we are already out for that month so fx it works first month. Was second month with James.

Can't wait to hear how everyone is getting on. Any more #3 in the making!!??

 

[IsaacRalph]

Hey let good luck with trying for #3! I just had a miscarriage about 5 weeks ago wasn't trying but not preventing and fell pregnant just w months after stopping bfing. Not entirely sure I want another yet haven't made up mind so we shall just see I suppose. Glad to be just chilling out about it all really. X

 

[IsaacRalph]

I think my thyroid theory is correct and the reason for my previous infertility!

 

[banana07]

oh Issacralph I am so sorry to hear your loss I have never had to deal with that but I can only imagine how hard it must be.

I just read back on your last post in march about your hypothyroidism.

All my blood tests for the last few years have shown I have a hyper active thyroid but I haven't got a single symptom, they take my bloods every few months to monitor it and make sure it doesn't get worse although they said my levels are at 0 so it can't get much worse but my THS or something is normal. As I said I haven't a single symptom in the world so they won't treat it unless I want to. They said the treatment would leave me temporarily infertile and I was trying to conceive James at the time so I left it and haven't done anything about it since. I wonder could it also be related?

Again, I'm really sorry about your mc, hopefully the next bean will stick x

 

[IsaacRalph]

Ahh thanks banana! I do indeed think that your thyroid could be a reason for your troubles it is such an important thing to get right. The ideal range for conception is between 1-2 and they reckon anything over 2 could stop you getting pregnant altogether..mine was always 2.5-2.9 ish! There must be a cause for your thyroid to be over producing usually graves and you can get tested for antibodies which will give you a diagnosis! Have you had it tested recently? I would strongly suggest you do as unfortunately it can make you a higher risk for problems conceiving and in pregnancy. Mine only got to the stage of needing treatment aftwr Edward was born and I'm assuming I'll be on lifelong meds now. When I had the miscarriage few weeks ago I was being overtreated and felt like death, had palpitations, insomnia anxiety etc etc. I believe it contributed to my miscarriage! Now on a more suitable dosage of meds and slowly feeling better but it takes time. I not hoping to be pregnant again if again until my levels are better. They have gone from 0.3 to 2.04 in 6 weeks as I cut my meds in half. So just upped my meds by another quarter to hopefully get me in the ideal range and feel better. My tsh was 27 when I was proper poorly when diagnosed. Anyway it's just a thought just make sure you try to get in the best of health. I vaguely remember you mentioning your thyroid before. It makes me mad as I've had this issue since after the birth of DS1 and even the fertility specialists didn't flag it up! There are some private clinics which offer treatment for infertilty and miscarriages caused by thyroid problems and it can be a simple treatment like steroids and aspirin and taking levothyroxine which the my med I'm on! Steroids to dampen down antibody activity and I have thyroid antibodies which makes miscarriage more likely! As you've never had a miscarriage hopefully you don't have my kind of issue and it will be plain sailing once you get your bfp which I'm confident you will!

 

[banana07]

Hey Issac.

I can't remember my actual results. I just know my bloods say I have the hyper one which is meant to make me really skinny but it does not!! My Mammy has bloods saying she has hypo which should make her really fat but she is really slim. So total opposites!!

We are currently doing the same treatment as we did to get pregnant with James so hopefully it works again but if not. I'll def look into the thyroid more. I don't really know anything about it but what you have said is very helpful. I vaguely remember being told if my results were the other way around it could cause problems but not so much this way. Last bloods I had done were just last month. Doctor can't believe I have zero symptoms. Its swollen out like a golf ball this last 4-5 years but doesn't hurt or anything. I got a biopsy done years ago and it wasn't harmful just fluid really. Fx crossed the tamoxifen, follicle tracking scans and triggers work again this time for us. Going to get my tubes flushed out tomorrow and firs Follicle tracking scan. Tomorrow is day 10 so fingers crossed there is a good eggy starting to grow!!

We are down your way next month!! Going to Legoland with the kids and then over to my sister in Devon and then up to my cousin in Manchester

 

[IsaacRalph]

I would imagine what you have is what's called subclinical hyperthyroidism. Where your tsh is undetectable at 0 but your other T3 and T4 levels are normal or only slightly out! Both hyper and hypo can cause problems with fertilty and pregnancy but it's best to have too much hormones than too little as is the case with you! I too had subclinical hyperthyroidism after my first ds but it soon went back to my normal or what I though my normal should be! I was slightly hyper also when I was pregnant a few weeks ago as i was beimg over treated so with that and the antibodies I think that was too blame for the miscarriage. It's strange now because I know now that I can fall pregnant and know I won't have any problems in that aspect it's just keeping the pregnancy I now fear. It's like something inside me is saying your fertile it's fine where as before my body was screaming infertility at me! Let us know how you get on with your treatment and if you fancy a meet up when your in Devon drop me a line xx

 

[IsaacRalph]

Oh and hyper can cause cycle irregularities,ovulation problems and long cycles also just worth a mention as I thought you had ovulation difficulties!

 

[apaki]

Hi can I join you? I have a 17 month old and on CD4. We are going to ttc starting this cycle! 😀

 

[IsaacRalph]

Hey apaki of course you are welcome but tbh this isn't a very active thread anymore as all of us ladies did have our 2 baby! Try another where you'll find more support. We just catch up from time to time on here xx good luck with ttc xx

 

[banana07]

Hey Issac

What you said about subclinical hyperthyroidism sounds about right I have one level which is 0 and two other levels which are normal!

Were you taking any meds to make sure your ds2 stayed stuck?

Must be strange being on the other end of the sword now. Even though I wasn't told I had progestrone issues, my lp was fine etc.. The clinic I go to makes you take progestrone from 1dpo - AF/BFP as a precaution or to 3 months if you get a bfp. I read that a huge amount of miscarriages are due to progestrone dropping to low.

Its horrible stuff that goes up the lady parts but its worth it if it works. I was so afraid of coming off it but had to eventually.

Don't think we'll have time in Devon have a pretty full schedule. Flying into Luton on the Monday, Legoland Tuesday arriving at my sisters late Tuesday night/Wednesday morning and only staying with her until Thursday evening and then up to my cousin in Manchester. Billy so excited can't wait to get away ourselves although dreading all the driving. London - Devon & Devon - Manchester with 1 kid & a baby!!

So I was up in the clinic last Friday and got my tubes checked was fine not half as painful as the last time I got it done. She is said this was different it was sugar and water the other one I got was a thick dye. Anyway everything was grand but the follicle was only 10mm previous succesful cycle it was 14mm at that stage and she very cheerfully siad soooo you have polycystic ovaries. I was trying to put my knickers on behind the curtain when she said it and I nearly dropped to the floor. I think it was only when I started asking a zillion questions she realised I didn't know this before and she panicked and said she wasn't qualified to talk about it with me that I had to make apt with consultatn. She did say there were so many follicles that that 10mm probaby wouldn't grow to full maturity.

So went home depressed and waited for my second tracking scan on Tuesday (2days ago) and all the scan showed was one great big 21mm follicle - the exact same as James (ds2)! so we triggered there there and then (CD14) and BD that night and last night and hopefully tonight although all my cramps are gone since yesterday evening and my temp spiked this morning so I'm pretty sure I've already O'd and on schedule with the trigger (expected at 8pm last night). So please cross all your fingers and toes for me and say a prayer if you can. Would be so so lovely if it just worked again like the last time.

Funny thing is I'd be due on DS1 birthday but 9 years apart!!

So what are you doing now issac do you have to wait a while after your mc and what can you do to prevent losing again??

Wonder how Mama is doing with the twinnies!!

 

[IsaacRalph]

How are you getting on banana?? I'm not attempting pregnancy right now going to enjoy the summer not even thinking about it! What will be will be I suppose xx