TTC 40 plus!! Lets share the ups and downs!

[Jennjenn]

Prickly - another member is going through the exact same thing as you in the over 35 forum. Her name is Monica and goes by user name Mon_n_Jon. Try searching for her posts and you can see which killer cells they diagnosed her with.

 

[onmymind17]

Well ladies, another cycle bust for me, tested last night at 10dpo and BFN, and had a big temp drop this morning so i am figuring AF will be here sometime tomorrow. I am so frustrated right now, i try EVERYTHING to get pg and NOTHING works!!!! I understand i am older, and the eggs might not stick but Damm!!!! I cant even manage to get pg. One time we did it on our own, that was Nov 08!!!!! 3 freaking years ago, all the other pg have come from IUI's, what the hell!!!!! I have tried everything, temping, clomid, pre seed, instead cups, i just dont know what to do, i dont understand how we could do 5 IUI's and 3 of the 5 resulted in pregnancies, and they were 3 in a row!!!!! I am going to start using a CBFM when af shows, i just bought it, if anybody else has any other ideas please let me know, i mean why would i be able to get pg with IUI but not on our own!!!! Sorry for venting ladies, im just very frustrated and sad right now!!

 

[samiam]

Hi Ladies,

I am back. Sort of. Dipping my toe in the pool. Thanks to LLBean and Miss C's advice, OH and I are back on track and planning to try again here in the next month or so. Taking it slowly. One day at a time, right?

Hope you're all well. I won't even try to get caught up since I've missed so much, but I will be thinking good thoughts and if there's something important I've missed, please let me know.

xoxo

 

[LLbean]

Good to have you back Sam!!!

 

[pdmcd17]

Fxd crossed calsen

Af is here I'm spotting but maybe I will conceive on my bday as that is apron when I will be fertile next

But I'm off to Toronto for the weekend to early celebrate my bday and were getting pressed there so I hope this is my cycle

 

[Spoomie]

Back where you belong Sam, so glad to have you back xxx

 

[samiam]

Thanks LL and Spoomie! I've really missed you girls!!

 

[amommy]

Well ladies....Witch arrived today for me - right on time!

But at least I know my OPK and BBT temp testing / charting is precise!

Just a quick update - went to see my GP yesterday for a re-referral back to miscarriage clinic - NHS is crap, but free! My GP hesitantly agreed to request whatever help they can give me with free immunes investigations / testing....she is unable to p/x low dose steroids / prednisone for me...but said they might...f/x

She agreed looking at my history that I more than likely have implantation / immunes issues....since I have not been ill (not even sniff of a cold) in nearly 10 years since my DD was born....since I have had subsequent chem pregs and m/c....since the only time I have had a viable preg since was with low dose steroids and progesterone support to sustain this....since I seem to have no probs with luteal phase or ovulation...I can conceive okay...but the fertilised egg fails to implant / chem preg results...suggesting NK killer cells are targetting my fertilised eggs, stopping them from implanting / growing...my body picks up HCG at low levels from the fertilised / implanting egg, and I get some early preg signs....but then these fade off as my immunes attack the egg / foreign body...

My GP knew alot about this - she has been preg herself and is quite up to date on this stuff...but said that NHS is quite constrained by strict laws and regulations...HFEA etc....so she said I am unlikely to get anywhere with immunes testing on NHS...worth a try she said...but unlikely....however on positive note...she is happy to refer me anywhere I wish for private t/x....going to try NHS route first.

In the meantime...I have done so much research into how I could try and reduce / control my fab functioning immune system...enough to allow a developing egg /embryo to implant and grow...alot of research says Dr Beer and natural sources of inflammatory control include....baby aspirin, vit e, and most importantly...very high dose fish oils....so started taking all of these as from yesterday and today - day 1 of my cycle....

Here we go again....fingers crossed!!


Last cycle's chart:
My Ovulation Chart


Good luck to all the 40 plus ladies this month!!

This is very interesting prickly because I could have written your thread to a T. Not only do I think I have some sort of immune issue I too have not been sick for years, even when everyone else does, I have inflammation markers in my bloodwork and some kind of undiagnosed something that they just say "they don't know" about..
So to assume that I probably have some kind of issue causing implantation problems makes a lot of sense.. Would you mind sharing how much of each supplement you are taking, because I feel like I need to start those as well..

Each month I get a + around 6-7 dpo, and all the other pregnancy symptoms, at about 8-9 dpo I get what feels like chills and fluish feeling, almost like my body is trying to fight something off, then the symptoms go away and the tests go negative, and I have my AF.. I have been paying attention to this and I am SOOO Glad you posted about your experience, so I don't feel quite so crazy!

Thanks in advance for any advice you may have!


I SOOOO Hope this works for you, especially if that is the majority of your issue.. I am cycle day 6 so we are not too far off from each other!!

Need a cycle buddy? I know I could sure use one!

 

[amommy]

Prickly you prompted me to do some research and I found out the major benefits of doing fish oil supplements.. how much do you take? it says you can take large doses and still be ok.. also B6 is supposed to improve luteal phase defects and I wonder if you take the fish oil do you still need the baby aspirin as it in itself has an anticoagulant affect!

I cannot wait to try all this and see if it helps..

 

[Shelley71]

Sam - YAY! Glad you're back so-to-speak. Good luck on getting back and track and I hope things are looking up for you and DH.

AFM: Looks like I'm having a light cycle this time. I'm not sure, but I think I'm noticing a pattern.

I'll have a short, heavy cycle, followed by a long, light cycle. I "think" this has happened twice in a row now. I'm trying not to worry, but that sure sounds like early menopause symptoms to me. What do you ladies think?

 

[Glowstar]

Welcome back Sam xx

 

[pip7890]

:wave: Sam.

So glad things are getting back on track for you and OH.

Pip x

 

[Reb S]

SAM! You're back. Phew. World order is restored. I don't have time to catch up on everyone today, but will on Monday. Lots of interesting stuff about immunes - Prickly I'll let you know how far my NHS practise goes when I get my tests back next week.
AFM - either my thermometer is on the fritz or no O this month - for the first time ever...OH was pretty turned on before I went though, so I'm going to try new thermometer first!!! Maca has arrived whilst I'm away and OH, the intrepid thing, has started taking it without asking, talking, questioning - and having opened the parcel addressed to me!!! HA ha ha, I love him! x
Gotta go, rehearsals now - Spoomie, it's a classical festival in the North York moors, which are PURPLE - amazing heather...
Lots of love to all, xxx
ARRGGGHHH - Miss C - missed your due date, I'm so sorry it was yesterday. I do hope you got through it okay and lots of love and hugs x

 

[Miss_C]

does anyone know if clomid can cause diahorrea? Have been shitting through the eye of a needle all day, I now have a burning ring of fire!!!!

 

[Butterfly67]

Well ladies, another cycle bust for me, tested last night at 10dpo and BFN, and had a big temp drop this morning so i am figuring AF will be here sometime tomorrow. I am so frustrated right now, i try EVERYTHING to get pg and NOTHING works!!!! I understand i am older, and the eggs might not stick but Damm!!!! I cant even manage to get pg. One time we did it on our own, that was Nov 08!!!!! 3 freaking years ago, all the other pg have come from IUI's, what the hell!!!!! I have tried everything, temping, clomid, pre seed, instead cups, i just dont know what to do, i dont understand how we could do 5 IUI's and 3 of the 5 resulted in pregnancies, and they were 3 in a row!!!!! I am going to start using a CBFM when af shows, i just bought it, if anybody else has any other ideas please let me know, i mean why would i be able to get pg with IUI but not on our own!!!! Sorry for venting ladies, im just very frustrated and sad right now!!

Hi hon, so sorry you are feeling down, it is so tough and I wish I could do something to help

I think you have done your tests haven't you and everything is OK? So really it is just a case of hoping that one bean will stick. I am trying royal jelly and bee pollen this month and have also started taking maca as that is supposed to help women as well as men by increasing egg quality. I don't know if it will help but I'm just going to do everything I can each month and hope

 

[prickly]

This is very interesting prickly because I could have written your thread to a T. Not only do I think I have some sort of immune issue I too have not been sick for years, even when everyone else does, I have inflammation markers in my bloodwork and some kind of undiagnosed something that they just say "they don't know" about..
So to assume that I probably have some kind of issue causing implantation problems makes a lot of sense.. Would you mind sharing how much of each supplement you are taking, because I feel like I need to start those as well..

Each month I get a + around 6-7 dpo, and all the other pregnancy symptoms, at about 8-9 dpo I get what feels like chills and fluish feeling, almost like my body is trying to fight something off, then the symptoms go away and the tests go negative, and I have my AF.. I have been paying attention to this and I am SOOO Glad you posted about your experience, so I don't feel quite so crazy!

Thanks in advance for any advice you may have!


I SOOOO Hope this works for you, especially if that is the majority of your issue.. I am cycle day 6 so we are not too far off from each other!!

Need a cycle buddy? I know I could sure use one!

Hi Mommy, Yes would love a cycle buddy...will pm you...and we can share info /charts etc.

It certainly sounds like you are in the same place as myself....there is most definately something in this....I got my NHS appointment through today (my GP was so quick on this and booked for me via NHS on line booking system) ....the clinic can't see me until October...so I am hoping by then I might not need their immunes testing advice (if indeed they can offer me this and additional progesterone support)...in the meantime....
I am on the following doses ( as recommended by other ladies / threads / fertility sites and independent research I have done / Dr Beer and immunes specialists)......it can't hurt at all to try....and I feel I have done all I can to address this:

• Pregnacare vitamins + folic acid
• High Dose (1000mg ) fish oils x 2 capsules per day
• (fish body oil and mercury free)
• Vit E 800mg
• Co-Enzyme Q10 one capsule 30mg daily
• low dose 75mg aspirin daily
• loads of Brazil nuts and pineapple
• Low GI / low carb diet to reduce immunes flare ups

I am hoping that all of this, together with usual diet and exercise changes, stress relief etc... will calm down my too efficient immune system to allow any fertilised egg / developing embryo a chance to implant and grow - In the absence of a p/x for prednisone (low dose steroids) and VERY expensive immunes tests and treatment (such as IVIG and Humira injections / drips etc) which I can't afford!

I am planning to build up the fish oils to 3 capsules per day and I take the aspirin at night...as you are right this is also a blood thinner and works better when taken at different time of day to the bulk of other vits etc.

Hope all this helps - will let you know how I get on! I have found that unless we do our own research, talk to other ladies and search for info....instead of accepting that always the medical / fertility professionals know best...we know our own bodies and very often schools of thought are highly divided with clinics and medics in any event...I have had so many different medical opinions and each clinic's protocols are so different...I think we have to do what works best for us.

 

[prickly]

does anyone know if clomid can cause diahorrea? Have been shitting through the eye of a needle all day, I now have a burning ring of fire!!!!

Miss C...yes, when I have used clomid I suffered from this too...but also my chem preg, m/c and preg.. I recall bowel movements were first signs of positive preg for me!! Good luck!

 

[onmymind17]

Well ladies, another cycle bust for me, tested last night at 10dpo and BFN, and had a big temp drop this morning so i am figuring AF will be here sometime tomorrow. I am so frustrated right now, i try EVERYTHING to get pg and NOTHING works!!!! I understand i am older, and the eggs might not stick but Damm!!!! I cant even manage to get pg. One time we did it on our own, that was Nov 08!!!!! 3 freaking years ago, all the other pg have come from IUI's, what the hell!!!!! I have tried everything, temping, clomid, pre seed, instead cups, i just dont know what to do, i dont understand how we could do 5 IUI's and 3 of the 5 resulted in pregnancies, and they were 3 in a row!!!!! I am going to start using a CBFM when af shows, i just bought it, if anybody else has any other ideas please let me know, i mean why would i be able to get pg with IUI but not on our own!!!! Sorry for venting ladies, im just very frustrated and sad right now!!

Hi hon, so sorry you are feeling down, it is so tough and I wish I could do something to help

I think you have done your tests haven't you and everything is OK? So really it is just a case of hoping that one bean will stick. I am trying royal jelly and bee pollen this month and have also started taking maca as that is supposed to help women as well as men by increasing egg quality. I don't know if it will help but I'm just going to do everything I can each month and hope

Thanks so much honey, i really appreciate it, i think i am going to try Maca this time too, i have heard a lot of good things about it.

So far no af for me, just these weird pinchy cramps, sore boobies, and a strange strong sense of smell. I am not sure what is going on right now, i guess if af does not show by tues, then i will test again. Good luck to you honey, sending you lots of your way.

 

[onmymind17]

does anyone know if clomid can cause diahorrea? Have been shitting through the eye of a needle all day, I now have a burning ring of fire!!!!

Sorry Miss C i have IBS so for me i have that problem all the time. I can say though to get some Preperation H wipes, and use them after each time you go, they will help with the burning and pain, when my IBS flares up i have that same problem and its quite painful.

 

[Spoomie]

Reb, I know you are a classical musician, I think it was Truly whom asked about your festival trip?? (not entirely sure!) Playing on the Yorkshire Moors sounds amazing, are you actually performing outdoors ON the moors?

Twinny, been thinking of you throughout the day and wishing we'd never met because we were both so busy being blissfully busy with a toddler and a new baby on opposite sides of the world