TTC 40 plus!! Lets share the ups and downs!

[pdmcd17]

heavenly im sorry the witch got you big hugs
it can get to us all at times that's what is so good about this site we all get it and understand what it is all about

 

[Pippi_elk]

sorry to hear AF arrrived Heavenly, hope you're feeling a bit more optimistic now and that the AMH testing went ok and there were n't too many pregnant bellys taunting you.

Yes Misty, its so easy to get carried away with the wedding stuff. We set a strict budget and broke it down by what we'd spend on the flowers etc...otherwise I found myself saying sure it's only an extra 50 euros (was living in South Ireland when we got marrried) and if you do that 10 times...you're 500 quid down without even noticing it. However, its good that when you look into your OHs brown eyes you remember why you are doing it all....
I would say the only thing we regret is not hiring a better photographer as our photos are n't great....not terrible but noting imaginative about them. That's all your left with after the whole event (apart from a happy marriage and great memories).

AFM
I think I missed the boat this month....did n't think you could ovulate when you still have hCG in your system, but my temps are climbing up slowly so I think I must have ovulated 3 days ago and we never BD

I started myself and OH on CoQ 10. I got it in Tesco as it was the cheapest....they changed me £18 instead of £9 so when I complained at customer services...they refunded me the whole £18 and let me keep the CoQ10. I then (maybe a bit cheekily) asked if they give a voucher when they overcharge (I know my local Asda usuallly gives you £2-£3 if they overcharge)...so the guy spent a long time doing some calculations and then gave me a give card for £36 !!!
so got my CoQ for free and made £36 profit....hope CoQ keeps bringing me such good luck !

hope everyone has a great weekend...

 

[Nise]

Pippi I'm loving your 1st Coq experience! and yes, may the lucky steak with it continue.

Well, it would seem fertility fiend was right - it was a CD8 O!!! AF arrived yesterday and is being a bit of a bitch today, I just wanted to curl up into a ball but had to be on my feet all day.

Have a great weekend all.

 

[heavenly]

heavenly im sorry the witch got you big hugs
it can get to us all at times that's what is so good about this site we all get it and understand what it is all about

Thank you. xx Congrats to your daughter!

sorry to hear AF arrrived Heavenly, hope you're feeling a bit more optimistic now and that the AMH testing went ok and there were n't too many pregnant bellys taunting you.

AFM
I think I missed the boat this month....did n't think you could ovulate when you still have hCG in your system, but my temps are climbing up slowly so I think I must have ovulated 3 days ago and we never BD

I started myself and OH on CoQ 10. I got it in Tesco as it was the cheapest....they changed me £18 instead of £9 so when I complained at customer services...they refunded me the whole £18 and let me keep the CoQ10. I then (maybe a bit cheekily) asked if they give a voucher when they overcharge (I know my local Asda usuallly gives you £2-£3 if they overcharge)...so the guy spent a long time doing some calculations and then gave me a give card for £36 !!!
so got my CoQ for free and made £36 profit....hope CoQ keeps bringing me such good luck !

hope everyone has a great weekend...

Thank you for your kind words. xx Sorry you missed the boat this month but here's to a new cycle! Well done with all that money saving...or should I say money making!! I am spending a fortune on supplements!!

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Well, it would seem fertility fiend was right - it was a CD8 O!!! AF arrived yesterday and is being a bit of a bitch today, I just wanted to curl up into a ball but had to be on my feet all day.

Have a great weekend all.

Hope you are feeling better hun.



AFM, I decided to take control today. Went to the Agora Clinic in Brighton with my OH, it's a satellite clinic for the Lister in London. It was a lovely reception/waiting room and there was only one lady there and no bump.....phew.....had my AMH done and had a good chat with the nurse. She said they don't have a cut off age there. She did tell me to start taking DHEA and I said I had just got some!

I am going to have a consult with the Director of the Clinic in a couple of weeks, when my AMH is back, taking all my other results from my FS with me. Going to look at my FSH, AMH and OH's SA and see what options I have. She said there is quite a short waiting list for DE as well. Obviously don't know if it will be OE or DE yet.

It is only a 20 min drive and if we go ahead with treatment, seeing I don't know how many times I will have to go and I want OH there, it is so convenient. Anyhoo, I still have 2 cycles of Clomid to go and we haven't made a decision yet about invasive treatment, but I feel better I have done something proactive. xx

Love to you all.

 

[booth19]

Sorry AF arrived Heavenly, hope it all works out well for you at the clinic.

Bargain on the CoQ10 there Pippi. haeven't yet purchased any yet, got an appointment at consultant next week so going to ask if they recommend as don't want it to interfere with any blood tests etc at the moment.

Hope you all have a good weekend xx

 

[Butterfly67]

Heavenly, sorry about AF but yes, good that you are being proactive and have talked to the clinic, sounds like you have a good plan in place

Pippi, nice one on the money making!

to everyone else

So I just got back to my own house this morning. I stopped off last night at the ex's place and we had a good chat and he is on board with trying again so that is good. I started the CoQ10 today as well. Not sure what does to take though.

Still bleeding lightly and high amounts of hcg in my system, also feeling a bit dizzy and had quite bad cramps last night. Have an appointment with the doctor on Monday morning. Am starting to temp again so that hopefully I can see what is happening with my body but I guess I can't do anything until the hcg goes out as I can't use the LH strips as they will show a plus with hcg. I'm tempted to get back into it asap as I beleive you are more fertile after an mc but at the same time I wonder if I should give the CoQ time to work on my eggs...

 

[heavenly]

Sorry AF arrived Heavenly, hope it all works out well for you at the clinic.

Bargain on the CoQ10 there Pippi. haeven't yet purchased any yet, got an appointment at consultant next week so going to ask if they recommend as don't want it to interfere with any blood tests etc at the moment.

Hope you all have a good weekend xx

Thank you. Let us know how the appointment goes. xx

Heavenly, sorry about AF but yes, good that you are being proactive and have talked to the clinic, sounds like you have a good plan in place

So I just got back to my own house this morning. I stopped off last night at the ex's place and we had a good chat and he is on board with trying again so that is good. I started the CoQ10 today as well. Not sure what does to take though.

Still bleeding lightly and high amounts of hcg in my system, also feeling a bit dizzy and had quite bad cramps last night. Have an appointment with the doctor on Monday morning. Am starting to temp again so that hopefully I can see what is happening with my body but I guess I can't do anything until the hcg goes out as I can't use the LH strips as they will show a plus with hcg. I'm tempted to get back into it asap as I beleive you are more fertile after an mc but at the same time I wonder if I should give the CoQ time to work on my eggs...

How are you hun? xx I am glad your ex is still on board. Give yourself a little time, look after yourself.

Re supplements, at the clinic, she said I should be taking 75mg DHEA a day, and I told her I had already ordered some. I kept reading good things about it, not sure if that is just generally good for TTC or it is good for someone preparing to have invasive treatment, but I am going to take it anyway.

Have a good weekend everyone. xx

 

[Mistyy]

Hi ladies x

Hi Butterfly - good to see you So glad to hear you're ex is on board. That must be a relief whether you're in a rush or not. Nice to feel you have the option. Hope the cramping and bleeding goes away very soon. At the risk of sounding like my mum - maybe you need an iron suplement if you're feeling a bit dizzy and tired. Boost you up a bit? I dithered over the dose of Q10 and have settled for 800mg a day. I've heard of slightly higher being taken, and as low as 200mg a day too. I decided if i was going to take it i may as well bung a high dose in!

Heavenly - so sorry AF has arrived I'm sorry it hit you a bit hard this time too. Onwards and upwards though, as you say I've been googling DHEA as well. Have you found out whether it's recomended for general ttc yet? I can find loads of good reports about it - but mostly in connection with ivf. Not sure about the dose either! Can you use it alongside Q10?!?!? Questions Questions! Good that you are being pro active. Let keep everything all crossed for the next cycles of clomid anyway

Spoomie - sorry your AF arrived too its so tempting to mess with your temps on FF isnt it? To see what it'll say. Gives one a sense of power over the darn thing! lol.

Pippi - Sorry to hear you may have missed the boat. Fingers crossed its not the case. Even if you did ov after you last DTD you're still in with a good chance 'the lads' were still awaiting their time to shine up there!

Thank you for your words of wisdom re: photogrophers. Sad to hear you weren't entirely pleased with yours. Can you get any of yours photo shopped to up the style or quality a bit? We have chosen one who knows the venue well. He was also the most prompt, polite and informative emailer of the 3 photog's i contacted. Which goes a long way in my book! He visited us with examples of his work - he's a nice guy, big personality - very camp! Lots of arty shots of the brides with huge swirly bits of chiffon which he brings along on the day. He made me laugh actually. Dont know if i'll indulging in any 'swirly shots' myself, but it ties in with what you were saying about a bit of imagination being nice. Fingers crossed we've made the right choice

Well done with your Q10 in Tesco!

PDMC - Huge congrats for your DD What great news. You must be so proud!

Nise - another for an AF arriving. God she's everywhere at the mo. That was an early ov wasnt it!

to Booth

AFM - well, DPO10 and FF has me triphasic as of today. She taunted me with the idea of a bit of triphasicness last month - but seems quite sure this time. Dont know what to think. I'm due on next Thurday. Boobs are very hot and round and i've had (sorry for this) nipples like organ stops for the last 5 days which are so tender they can feel a door slamming at the other end of the village, lol. As i say - i dont know. Not holding my breath. Just trying to chillax and enjoy the 'maybe' days while they last really Send me your good vibes girls

 

[Butterfly67]

I dithered over the dose of Q10 and have settled for 800mg a day. I've heard of slightly higher being taken, and as low as 200mg a day too. I decided if i was going to take it i may as well bung a high dose in!

My CoQ10 capsules are only 30mg each so I would have to take 20 a day to get 600mg I got them from sainsbury's so I thought they would be pretty standard but they sound a bit low dose

Your chart is looking very exciting mistyy

 

[greens]

60mg a day is the dose I have seen, so 30 is particularly low. The packet I saw said take one to two a day so that would make it 120mg with those.

 

[Butterfly67]

60mg a day is the dose I have seen, so 30 is particularly low. The packet I saw said take one to two a day so that would make it 120mg with those.

Thanks greens. I just read through the CoQ10 thread and it seems that most are taking 100-200mg so I have just ordered some more from Amazon (I seem to order something from there every week ) - I will take 3 a day of the ones I have at the moment then until the new ones arrive, hopefully that should do something at least

 

[heavenly]

I've been googling DHEA as well. Have you found out whether it's recomended for general ttc yet? I can find loads of good reports about it - but mostly in connection with ivf. Not sure about the dose either! Can you use it alongside Q10?!?!? Questions Questions! Good that you are being pro active. Let keep everything all crossed for the next cycles of clomid anyway

AFM - well, DPO10 and FF has me triphasic as of today. She taunted me with the idea of a bit of triphasicness last month - but seems quite sure this time. Dont know what to think. I'm due on next Thurday. Boobs are very hot and round and i've had (sorry for this) nipples like organ stops for the last 5 days which are so tender they can feel a door slamming at the other end of the village, lol. As i say - i dont know. Not holding my breath. Just trying to chillax and enjoy the 'maybe' days while they last really Send me your good vibes girls

I am sending you LOADS of good vibes for this cycle!! Just keep those huge nipples away from me!

Re supplements, it is fine to take CO Q10 with DHEA. I take 100mg CO Q10 and 75mg (micronized) DHEA daily. Re DHEA, I haven't read anywhere you only take it if you are preparing for IVF. The nurse at the Agora told me to take it and she knows that I may not sign up for treatment there, so it must be ok to take it if you are TTC naturally, she knows I am on Clomid.

It is to help older ladies or ladies generally who may have a diminished ovarian reserve (I haven't had my AMH test back yet, so not sure what state mine are in!).

 

[booth19]

Good luck Mistyy, have everything crossed for you

 

[Mistyy]

Many thanks for all your crossed fingers ladies

Tbh i'm just chuffed to have such sore boobs in my luteal as it shows i do have some hormones staggering about in me still! Really am not getting my hopes up too much. I'm used to this now and its like a game. Temp could drop any day. But it is nice to have 4 or 5 days out of the 28 with a bit of nervous excitement. I'm never ever going to do early tests again as it just turns the whole thing back into a sad stress fest for me.

Q10 - eek! Only me here taking such a big dose then!?!? I trawled the net for ages to get an idea of the dose. I started out on 200mg a day and then if i remember rightly i found the low doses were aimed at general use - people wanting to protect their health, or gaurd against the onset of deterioration in various things. Then i read that 800mg per day is the recomendation given to many ladies by their specialists to improve egg quality. Some are even told 1600!!!! Even at the 800 dose 3 months seems to be the min amount of time to expect positive changes from Q10 to begin. I buy mine online from 'Just Vitamins' in 200mg capsuals and take 2 in the am and 2 in the pm. You can get them slightly cheaper elsewhere online, but i was impressed with their assertions of quality and freshness. (mug? lol) Every time i order a pack i cringe and wonder if it is actually doing any good. But thats suplements for you isnt it? I recon this is around my 4th month now. I started that and going to accupuncture at the same time. Thats my Q10 ramble over

Anyway - hope everyone had a good weekend. Wether was awful here. Love and hugs to all xxx

 

[Butterfly67]

Still looking good Mistyy

Yeah I think I would do a higher dose - but it is so expensive so I'll have to stick to a bit less

Weather was horrible here last night too - really high winds!

 

[Miss_C]

hello lovelies.

Just on the coq10 I did 300mg twice per day so 300mg morning and 300mg evening for just over 90 days. It takes an egg 90 days to form so maybe I should call ziggy Coq or something!!

here's the extract I based that on. LINK

4. CoQ10

CoQ10 is a naturally occurring fat-soluble nutrient that is essential for energy production. CoQ10 has potent antioxidant properties and cell membrane stabilizing effects that make it beneficial for egg and sperm quality, specifically sperm motility. CoQ10 works within the mitochondria (the cellular power stations) in the cells and is essential for energy production. Until recently, CoQ10 was not thought to be a nutrient that required supplementation, as all normal tissue manufactures its own CoQ10; however, this production decreases naturally with age and is also lowered by certain drugs, including statins. When CoQ10 levels in the cells are low, energy production may be reduced and oxidative stress increased as a result.

CoQ10 has been shown to improve sperm quality and is now under investigation for potential use with women of advanced reproductive age undergoing ART to improve egg/embryo quality. The oocyte has among the highest concentrations of mitochondria of all body cells and uses immense amounts of energy in the process of maturation and ovulation. Researchers hypothesize that supporting the oocyte with CoQ10 may improve egg quality (Bentov et al. 2010).

The recommended dosage for overall health is 100-300 mg/day, or as directed by a nutritionist. The dosage under investigation in studies looking at egg quality is higher: 600 mg/day. CoQ10 appears to be a safe supplement: Studies have used supplementation of CoQ10 up to levels of 3,000 mg per day without adverse side effects. At present, the only risk to taking CoQ is the cost, as this supplement can be pricy, and no data currently exists on its usage in high doses during pregnancy.

 

[Spoomie]

Many thanks for all your crossed fingers ladies

Tbh i'm just chuffed to have such sore boobs in my luteal as it shows i do have some hormones staggering about in me still! Really am not getting my hopes up too much. I'm used to this now and its like a game. Temp could drop any day. But it is nice to have 4 or 5 days out of the 28 with a bit of nervous excitement. I'm never ever going to do early tests again as it just turns the whole thing back into a sad stress fest for me.

Q10 - eek! Only me here taking such a big dose then!?!? I trawled the net for ages to get an idea of the dose. I started out on 200mg a day and then if i remember rightly i found the low doses were aimed at general use - people wanting to protect their health, or gaurd against the onset of deterioration in various things. Then i read that 800mg per day is the recomendation given to many ladies by their specialists to improve egg quality. Some are even told 1600!!!! Even at the 800 dose 3 months seems to be the min amount of time to expect positive changes from Q10 to begin. I buy mine online from 'Just Vitamins' in 200mg capsuals and take 2 in the am and 2 in the pm. You can get them slightly cheaper elsewhere online, but i was impressed with their assertions of quality and freshness. (mug? lol) Every time i order a pack i cringe and wonder if it is actually doing any good. But thats suplements for you isnt it? I recon this is around my 4th month now. I started that and going to accupuncture at the same time. Thats my Q10 ramble over

Anyway - hope everyone had a good weekend. Wether was awful here. Love and hugs to all xxx

Panic not Mistyy, I have been taking 600mg since mid Jan (I started at 800mg but I was getting through them so quickly that I reduced it to 600!) Mine come from Nutricentre and I buy 100mg capsules . £70 for 110 capsules, taking 6 capsules a day......I prefer not to think too long and hard how much it is costing! Wise words about your chart, guard your heart x

 

[Nise]

Misty, I'm loving your chart and also have everything crossed for you

Hmm, I've been doing COQ for about 2 months now at 100mg daily. I bought it in 50mg tabs. Might have to think about upping that then. I also use Angus Castus and was surprised to note in my research that it suppressed the libido which is useful!!!! So I also take Macca. This month I am forcing myself to drink lots of water - I find that quite hard as I only need one glass and I'm running to the loo!

 

[pdmcd17]

misty fxd

i take 200mg coq10, not sure if i want to up it im already on 5 diferent suppliments including my metformin.

it was another crazy busy weekend im looking forward to this upcomming weekend being quiet. I have to start to think what im going to get or do for my ds 16 bday in less than 2wks scary my baby will be 16.

im about 6dpo, this is the most normal cycle for me since before i ever went on and off birthcontrol. i think the metformin has been really helpful in regulating my cycles.

 

[heavenly]

Q10 - eek! Only me here taking such a big dose then!?!? I trawled the net for ages to get an idea of the dose. I started out on 200mg a day and then if i remember rightly i found the low doses were aimed at general use - people wanting to protect their health, or gaurd against the onset of deterioration in various things. Then i read that 800mg per day is the recomendation given to many ladies by their specialists to improve egg quality. Some are even told 1600!!!! Even at the 800 dose 3 months seems to be the min amount of time to expect positive changes from Q10 to begin. I buy mine online from 'Just Vitamins' in 200mg capsuals and take 2 in the am and 2 in the pm. You can get them slightly cheaper elsewhere online, but i was impressed with their assertions of quality and freshness. (mug? lol) Every time i order a pack i cringe and wonder if it is actually doing any good. But thats suplements for you isnt it? I recon this is around my 4th month now. I started that and going to accupuncture at the same time. Thats my Q10 ramble over

Oh crap, going to have to up it then...with all the supplements I am taking, plus acupuncture......I don't even want to think about it...and the cost of the DHEA........

Keep us posted hun!!