Underhand tactics - formula companies

[cherryglitter]

I know formula milk is 'artificial' milk.
To me bottle feeding shouldn't be called artificial feeding as that's not what it is. In MY eyes.

Is a bottle not an artificial breast?

Well of course, but that doesn't mean its artificial feeding?!?
Like I said before in my posts, i see artificial feeding as what I see it as.

Im off to watch the Inbetweeners

 

[IvyBaby]

I know formula milk is 'artificial' milk.
To me bottle feeding shouldn't be called artificial feeding as that's not what it is. In MY eyes.

Is a bottle not an artificial breast?

Lol, the closer to nature ones probably are!

 

[smokey]

I know formula milk is 'artificial' milk.
To me bottle feeding shouldn't be called artificial feeding as that's not what it is. In MY eyes.

Is a bottle not an artificial breast?

Not at all, this is getting silly now.

 

[SKATERBUN]

'fail' at breastfeeding??? for goodness sake, think before you type. Some ladies beat themselves up enough when bf doesnt work out for them without comments like that

As iv said in previous posts, I dont realy like to use the term "fail" I prefer to think of it as changed tactics.

I agree its not failing, especially if you have tried the best you could like me and were deeply saddened that it didn't work.
Formula is a lot better in the 21st century, its full of everything a baby needs (all except mummys antibodies), but baby will produce their own antibodies, I and my partner were formula fed babies in the 70's and we were never ill and are still very healthy adults, it didnt do us any harm and that is when the formula probably wasn't very good.
The formula box always tries to promote breastfeeding on the websites and boxes 1st hand and mentions consulting the MW / Dr's before using.

 

[MissBroody]

Oh, another definition of artificial, in case we'd all forgotten since the first time or don't have the ability to use a dictionary I just had déja vu... No matter how many times we give the exact definition of it, it is OFFENSIVE to a lot of FFers it seems so why not just not use it? If I thought a word was offensive to someone, I'd stop using it...

 

[ellie]

Hey, I just remembered that i was fed on SMA myself ... I never knew thats what it stood for!

I don't think any "BFers" are questioning any "FFers" choices on here. Or that anyone is deliberately trying to make anyone feel bad! I dont even know how this thread got here from the OP ....

I say this nearly every day of my working life ..... No one can 'make' you feel anything and you cannot expect other people to do or say things that you want them to. The only thing you can control is how you choose to interpret or react to things.
So, if people are getting upset over semantics, or taking things people say as 'questioning choices', or judging choices, or anything like that, is it really that likely that that is their intention, given how remarkably thoughtful this forum is generally?

 

[Susie28]

*sigh*


i like frogs. anyone else?

Not really, they move to fast

If they slowed down would you like them more Missy? Perhaps an old frog that used a walking stick?

or a zimmer maybe, so it couldnt leap so much

I like your way of thinking!

 

[Dragonfly]

I know formula milk is 'artificial' milk.
To me bottle feeding shouldn't be called artificial feeding as that's not what it is. In MY eyes.

Is a bottle not an artificial breast?

Not at all, this is getting silly now.

Just asking not silly to ask questions to learn. I always thought a bottle was an artificial breast you know it kinda looks like one to at the end. still its a personal defination like cherryglitter means i think .

 

[Blah11]

I was BF for 5 months or something then onto cows milk

 

[Blah11]

I know formula milk is 'artificial' milk.
To me bottle feeding shouldn't be called artificial feeding as that's not what it is. In MY eyes.

Is a bottle not an artificial breast?

Not at all, this is getting silly now.

Just asking not silly to ask questions to learn. I always thought a bottle was an artificial breast you know it kinda looks like one to at the end. still its a personal defination like cherryglitter means i think .

Theyre supposed to be like nipples cos thats what baby naturally latches on to Just the way their suck reflex is.

 

[Susie28]

I to am proud of how my son turned out from my milk that in no way is meant to make a mum who formula feeds bad and I dont get how it could do. Its just a personal thing, I made the milk and its clearly good enough for him where as so many around me claim its not good enough and he needs formula so it makes me feel better to be honest knowing I done that, I not only carried him for 41 weeks and went through a bad labour but I am still growing him. I love the closeness of breastfeeding and the fact I can lye there and type or read a book while doing it.

And I am proud of the way my daughter turned out from formula I think we should just all be proud that we have healthy babies regardless of how they're fed

but we are... I was speaking for me I am sure you feel the same way to and that wasnt rubbing your face in it so no need to get defensive.

I wasn't getting defensive, I was just saying we should all be proud regardless

Exactly

I never suggested any different.

I wasn't suggesting that you were. I was merely highlighting a point I agreed with and that I thought had a really nice sentiment.

 

[Dragonfly]

I was BF for 5 months or something then onto cows milk

I was formula fed and in and out of hospital and still suffer. My mum tried breastfeeding my bro but thats because she was in Holland when she had him and it was the thing then and I was born in Ireland so she never bothered as it wasnt done here.

 

[Dragonfly]

I to am proud of how my son turned out from my milk that in no way is meant to make a mum who formula feeds bad and I dont get how it could do. Its just a personal thing, I made the milk and its clearly good enough for him where as so many around me claim its not good enough and he needs formula so it makes me feel better to be honest knowing I done that, I not only carried him for 41 weeks and went through a bad labour but I am still growing him. I love the closeness of breastfeeding and the fact I can lye there and type or read a book while doing it.

And I am proud of the way my daughter turned out from formula I think we should just all be proud that we have healthy babies regardless of how they're fed

but we are... I was speaking for me I am sure you feel the same way to and that wasnt rubbing your face in it so no need to get defensive.

I wasn't getting defensive, I was just saying we should all be proud regardless

Exactly

I never suggested any different.

I wasn't suggesting that you were. I was merely highlighting a point I agreed with and that I thought had a really nice sentiment.

I mean apple blosom sorry your quote got caught up,. never the less i agree with both of you.

 

[OmarsMum]

I just compared Omar's Dr. Browns bottles to my breasts. Nope, they dont look alike. My breasts dont have anti-colic vent, his bottles have

 

[Blah11]

I was BF for 5 months or something then onto cows milk

I was formula fed and in and out of hospital and still suffer. My mum tried breastfeeding my bro but thats because she was in Holland when she had him and it was the thing then and I was born in Ireland so she never bothered as it wasnt done here.

Both my little brothers were fed on breastmilk for only 3 or 4 weeks then they were put onto soy milk cos they were allergic to the whey and vomitted after every single feed. My littlest brother has asthma but my other little brother doesn't.

 

[Dragonfly]

I just compared Omar's Dr. Browns bottles to my breasts. Nope, they dont look alike. My breasts dont have anti-colic vent, his bottles have

The basic principal of it.

 

[IvyBaby]

I guess everything just depends on how we look at things. If people accepted this truth, there would be no arguments...aum...

 

[Blah11]

I just compared Omar's Dr. Browns bottles to my breasts. Nope, they dont look alike. My breasts dont have anti-colic vent, his bottles have

breasts don't generally have air in them The teat is supposed to be like a nipple shape though. You can get bottles that are actual breast shaped lol

 

[smokey]

I just compared Omar's Dr. Browns bottles to my breasts. Nope, they dont look alike. My breasts dont have anti-colic vent, his bottles have

Haha I hope thats not the only differance, do your ends screw off?

 

[ellie]

LOL this thread has about 7 different things going on now.

I actually get rather offended myself when people say that "bf'ers are rubbing it in" because they want to talk about how good bf'ing is. I wont repeat my post above, but I am very careful about how I say things generally in life, because I don't like to upset people. However ... I think it is very unfair to expect other people in life (here or in real life) to not talk about things in case someone gets upset. NO one can live their lives like that!!! I had a c-section ... I desparately wanted to give birth normally, but i couldnt. I feel terrible about it, and I don't really like hearing other people's lovely stories about what a nice natural birth they had and did everything I wanted. But I would never expect them to not talk about it because they'd be 'rubbing it in' or being 'smug' about it. It's their perogative to talk about it, and it's my perogative to deal with my own feelings in my own way, and it's unfair to project my feelings outwards and expect the world to always take account of them.

On the other hand, I'm very proud about bf'ing, and I also wish everyone else could have the lovely experiences I've had! I feel quite offended that that might be seen as 'smug'.