Underhand tactics - formula companies

[cherryglitter]

oooh whats that purple britney one? smells like sweeties!

midnight fantasy

 

[Dragonfly]

It's like the "Mother" & baby magazine though. The babies are airbrushed & the "mothers" are actually women who have never even been pregnant I don't agree with that and for that reason I don't buy the magazine but that's my personal choice so I can understand where you're coming from dragonfly

They gave me false expectations in my first pregnancy of looking glowing, radiant and motherly with just a bump, in reality I was covered in spots, crappy hair, hips and fat ass grew with the bump and so not radiant looking!

 

[Hayley90]

I know I was just explaining a bit more into it. its cool if anyone does do it though theres nothing wrong with it I just dont want him to be at that at this age or even just a tad older, like if he wants to be a vain teen then thats ok lol

"mum WHY didnt you let me do baby modelling, i would have been SO handsome"


i have the fantasy perfume... i threw away the box though, im embarrassed as its britney

 

[bluebaby]

It's like the "Mother" & baby magazine though. The babies are airbrushed & the "mothers" are actually women who have never even been pregnant I don't agree with that and for that reason I don't buy the magazine but that's my personal choice so I can understand where you're coming from dragonfly

That really gets me too. The programme I watched the most of the 'model mums' didn't even know how to hold the 'model children' properly as they weren't mums. Even the models that had brought their child along weren't even paired with their own children

It all about things looking good

 

[cherryglitter]

oooh whats that purple britney one? smells like sweeties!

midnight fantasy

or it could just be the normal fantasy - in a pinky bottle.

my signature scent lol! i love all of them apart from curious. blergh.

 

[smokey]

You know I have never heard anyone using the term 'artificial' before this thread, and I have seen many of the posters on this thread posting on similar topics before. Before this thread started a few days ago all anyone was saying was formula. Now that artificial has been shown to really wind people up it seems to be being used over and over. I too had a SCBU baby and the term 'artifical' was not used there at all. They said formula.

Sometimes it doesn't matter about being technically right, it is just about not unnecessarily winding folk up. I feel very passionately about BF but this kind of thing does not do the BF cause any good at all. It just gives fuel to the fire that BF are all smug and self-righteous.

This is the point I was trying to make, its never mentioned before but all of a sudden as soon as someone is upset by it it manages to make its way into nearly every post where someone thinks they have a point to make.

To me that is just "haha im just going to say it again and again and again because you cant stop me and its bugging you"

 

[AppleBlossom]

And leelee, I would suggest Rome, it's gorgeous. Plenty of things to do and not too hot and the food is lovely. Although unless you get a tour bus it's a fair bit of uphill walking

Rome, not too hot?? In the spring or autumn maybe! It gets ridiculously hot in the summer, always worse in cities. Lots of people die every year.

Really? I didn't think it was that hot but then I've endured the Florida heat so...

 

[smokey]

It's like the "Mother" & baby magazine though. The babies are airbrushed & the "mothers" are actually women who have never even been pregnant I don't agree with that and for that reason I don't buy the magazine but that's my personal choice so I can understand where you're coming from dragonfly

They gave me false expectations in my first pregnancy of looking glowing, radiant and motherly with just a bump, in reality I was covered in spots, crappy hair, hips and fat ass grew with the bump and so not radiant looking!

haha I remember shouting at my hubby on a bad day "ffs when am I ment to start glowing, what a load of cr*p"

 

[leelee]

And leelee, I would suggest Rome, it's gorgeous. Plenty of things to do and not too hot and the food is lovely. Although unless you get a tour bus it's a fair bit of uphill walking

Rome, not too hot?? In the spring or autumn maybe! It gets ridiculously hot in the summer, always worse in cities. Lots of people die every year.

Really? I didn't think it was that hot but then I've endured the Florida heat so...

I would probably take LO in May or September if I went there. If it is anything like Barcelona it will be stinking hot during the summer!

 

[AP]

aye its midnight fantasy lol

 

[Missy86]

aye its midnight fantasy lol

I was hoping I would like Lady Million as Oh wears One million but I didnt think it was nice

 

[AP]

i cannot get midnight fantasy out one of my tops. urgh.

 

[Faerie]

And leelee, I would suggest Rome, it's gorgeous. Plenty of things to do and not too hot and the food is lovely. Although unless you get a tour bus it's a fair bit of uphill walking

Rome, not too hot?? In the spring or autumn maybe! It gets ridiculously hot in the summer, always worse in cities. Lots of people die every year.

Really? I didn't think it was that hot but then I've endured the Florida heat so...

Just not somewhere I'd recommend with small children - when it's hot it's really hot and so humid and it's like you can't breathe. There have been a couple of summers of around 40 degrees, not pleasant! But when I've been to Perth and it was 40+ degrees it was ok because it was dry.

 

[Tasha]

Oh for god sake.

Did somebody call

That made me laugh

 

[AppleBlossom]

And leelee, I would suggest Rome, it's gorgeous. Plenty of things to do and not too hot and the food is lovely. Although unless you get a tour bus it's a fair bit of uphill walking

Rome, not too hot?? In the spring or autumn maybe! It gets ridiculously hot in the summer, always worse in cities. Lots of people die every year.

Really? I didn't think it was that hot but then I've endured the Florida heat so...

Just not somewhere I'd recommend with small children - when it's hot it's really hot and so humid and it's like you can't breathe. There have been a couple of summers of around 40 degrees, not pleasant! But when I've been to Perth and it was 40+ degrees it was ok because it was dry.

Ah ok. I went in September. We went to Florida last year in July/August and I have never felt heat like it as the first time I went was in Spring so never really consider anywhere quite as hot lol

 

[Faerie]

You know I have never heard anyone using the term 'artificial' before this thread, and I have seen many of the posters on this thread posting on similar topics before. Before this thread started a few days ago all anyone was saying was formula. Now that artificial has been shown to really wind people up it seems to be being used over and over. I too had a SCBU baby and the term 'artifical' was not used there at all. They said formula.

Sometimes it doesn't matter about being technically right, it is just about not unnecessarily winding folk up. I feel very passionately about BF but this kind of thing does not do the BF cause any good at all. It just gives fuel to the fire that BF are all smug and self-righteous.

Totally agree.

I could say my daughter was artifically fed, she was given TNP before very gradually moving onto my EBM (1ml per hour at first, bless her) in combination with the EBM. To me that would be a perfectly reasonable definition.

But I think the way it's been used in this thread is purely to get a reaction, especially continuing to use it once people have said it causes offence to them. I don't think we always have to understand the whys and wherefores, just have some common curtesy.

 

[smokey]

Oh for god sake.

Did somebody call

That made me laugh

omg you actualy reading through all of them??
see you in about a week

 

[aob1013]

Some people say formula, some people say artificial
Some people say couch, some people say sofa
Some people say pram some people say stroller

......... it's just what you are accustomed to.

People are not going to change how they naturally word things because of a forum.

i would?
if you told me that you were offended by me saying that your baby was born 'artificially' because you had a c section, then i wouldnt say it to you? in fact, didnt you post a reply in another thread yesterday saying 'id punch someone who told me i hadnt given birth'?
there are people out there who think nothing of calling our children b*****ds because they were born out of 'wedlock' it is the 'correct' term, the dictionary says so, but people would be offended by it, so its not used! come on, you need to look at the bigger picture here!

The difference bewteen us is that I don't really care if you did call it artificial.. Of course it wouldn't be the nicest of things to say, but there are bigger things in life to worry about rather than get upset at someone elses terminology.

I'm sorry, but I am used to the word artificial, mainly because of SCBU - it's not meant to offend, and I'm sorry that you take offence, but that's what I call it. Leni had a few feeds of artificial milk .. He was artificially fed .. I can't help but call it what I am used to. Who says I am not offended by the word formula?!?! Do you know what I mean? It could go on forever about who is offended by what word

im just pointing out your contradiction. you posted in another thread saying that you would punch someone in the face for suggesting that you hadnt given birth because you had a section..... clearly, you would be offended by that if you are going so far as to threaten violence, yet you show no consideration for the multiple ladies here who are offended by your repeated use of the term artificial feeding. perhaps you were used to it in scubu as tube feeding IS artificial feeding. the truth is that formula isnt artifical milk. its definetly milk, its just not HUMAN milk.....

you say there are bigger things to worry about than what we call formula.. yet you were clearly concerned at the giving birth thing, so yeah, thats a biggie for you, this is a biggie for us... why are you finding it so very hard to see a similarity there?

i dont want you to be sorry that i take offense, i just want you to show some bloody consideration and stop using it when you KNOW it offends people!

I'll try and explain this best i can but i can't go into too much detail as i'm juggling baby too! Re the post yesterday, you know full well that my 'threat of violence' was of course said in jest, and many others agreed with me. If someone said that to me in real life, i would feel extemely sorry for them, i wouldn't punch them.

To be honest, i had never even thought of calling a section an artificial birth until yesterday. It's not a biggie for me at all, i loved having a section and when i have another baby, i will ask for another! However you give birth, vaginally, medically, section, forceps it's STILL birth. Whatever way you look at it. I suppose you could call it artificial as i was helped, but at the end of the day Leni was born, i gave birth. Artificial milk is NOT breastmilk, hence why it's called artificial, it's man made, it's not the real thing. I would be contradicting myself if artificial milk was the same as breastmilk. However what ever way your baby was delivered, you give birth.

It's obvious that we don't agree and that's fine, but with all honesty i don't mean to offend, and like i have said a million times before it's what i am used to - you get used to alot in SCBU. I was there for 12 hours a day and i still call the little wash bowl a pipette

I'm happy to leave it here, but as you keep quoting me i cannot help but use the word artificial in my explanation

 

[Faerie]

Ok i have a question for breast feeding mummies. If we had a world where formula was allowed to be advertised for any age group and your child was asked to model in these adverts would you let them?

nope and I see nothing wrong with saying no either as he isnt formula fed that would be a lie. Whats the point on pretending my child is fed that product when its not? I wouldn't let my son be in an ad or a model anyway and he has been offered a contract. I am proud of my son being able to breastfeed him and would show him in a breatsfeeding advert where it would be true how he was fed.

*waits for someone to take offence*

No offence taken, its good to get an answer. I know you said you wouldnt let him be a model anyway but would you apply the same principal to modeling throwaway nappies if you used re-useable nappies or vice versa

That's interesting. In all honesty then my gut reaction would be no, I wouldn't want my DD modeling formula. We no longer use cloth nappies and so do use disposables, but I think I would've let her model disposables (if I was letting her model!). Not entirely logical.

 

[xpinkness87x]

Oliver is making more sence than this thread.... and his rolling round on the floor going blahblahdadad