Underhand tactics - formula companies

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If someone who was going to BF changed their mind because of a advert or because of BOG offers then they couldn't really have been that bothered about BF in the first place surely?
 
Well said :thumbup: BFers are always saying how they don't feel they get enough advice/support. But if FFers get support then it's a bad thing? We are all mothers trying to feed our babies. Why is it ok for BFing to be out in the open but FFing to be kept in the dark? FFers worry as much as BFing mums do so they should have the opportunity to ask for advice :shrug:

Noone is suggesting that ffers don't deserve support. Nor that ffers be kept in the dark. :shrug:
What I mean is, the OP is saying that formula companies are sneaky at promoting formula feeding to expectant mums.
Ok, so a different point entirely imo as I think most women on this thread are for support, informed choice and support for mothers.
Firstly, in this country advertising and promotion of infant formula is prohibited, so promoting formula to expectant mums via other avenues can surely validly be seen as sneaky. whether the law is fair or unfair is another argument.
But what is wrong with that? I wouldn't come on here and say "Omg, have you seen this article promoting BFing to pregnant women?!"
because promotion of formula is designed to convince as many people to use the product as possible, which undermines the aim of the govt, WHO and NHS and the mass campaign to normalise breastfeeding and prevent agressive marketing of a product which in mass usage has long term health imlications for the population. These laws were recommended by Trading Standards, the Scientific Advisory Committee on Nutrition, the NHS, WHO etc, not your average breastfeeding mum because low levels of breastfeeding translates to increased health problems in the population.
Why shouldn't people be able to read where they can get support and advice for BFing? They should. Same with formula.
They should. They should be able to read where to get appropriate, evidence based and correct advice as opposed to the poor advice which has been highlighted in this thread from a company whose interests are not served by mothers succcessfully breastfeeding. Mothers who choose to formula feed should be able to learn how to use these products safely, noone is denying that. Both formula companies and health authorities have a responsibility to ensure that good, evidence based, up to date information is available to aid mothers to use these products appropriately and safely. To me, the jump from this to formula companies being able to set themselves up as an authotity on all things pregnancy and child is not automatic. It is especially disconcerting when that 'information' is not only incorrect but also appears to blatently undermine the act that they claim to support.

It's called a choice.
yes, and one which I would defend to the hilt. What I do not defend nor support however is undermining informed choice to make profits. Surely we can seperate the disaproval of the tactics of formula companies from the personal decisions and choices of individual women who choose to formula feed.

One that is freely made by the mother, not by misinformed formula companies. I don't get why people seem to think that an advert for formula would change the way a woman wanted to feed her child or even encourage them :shrug:

Is making a choice because you don't believe there to be much of a difference between formula and breastmilk a real choice? What about choosing to formula feed because you know your diet isn't great, you forget to take vitamins and think that by breastfeeding your baby will be dficient in vitamin D? How about because going by the advice you sought on a 'parenting' advice site, you've been switching breasts and baby is windy, unsatisfied and crys all the time?
These problems come up again and again on this site alone, but not everyone has access to the internet.
I wonder, if formula advertising makes no difference to how women choose to feed their babies, what agenda made WHO, NHS etc push for the ban, or spend such vast quantities of money on advertising the health benefits of breastfeeding to counter years of formula promotion?
I'd like to live in a world where all women are invulnerable to advertising pressure, mixed messages, unsupportive language, societal pressure and the emotional turmoil new mums face but I don't.
 
Food is food.

Cool. I'm on a diet. Should I have chocolate fudge cake or baked potato for dinner? Oh it doesn't matter, food is food right?

Seriously?! We aren't talking about you. We're talking about babies. I would like to think every other woman on here would agree that if for whatever reason they couldn't BF/pump then they would turn to Formula. Not just say, well I'm not feeding them that, it can starve. What a completely stupid thing to even think of saying? If you had the choice between eating a plate of McDonalds chips or starving to death would you choose the latter just because the chips have no real nutritional value? I would say that starving was probably less nutritional but maybe that's just me...
 
they have a right to advertise formula - i think its awful that people get completly slated for using formula!! we feed our babys! thats all that matters!!!!!!!

Granted, feeding is better than starving, but is that "all that matters?" It's like saying "I put my child in holy clothes, but at least she's wearing clothes. That's all that matters right?"

Some women struggle to breastfeed or just don't want to. A happy mum is good for the baby if tgat means ff them so be.it
Xx

Yes I agree that the mothers mental health does impact upon the baby's welfare, but saying that as long as they get fed that's all that matters, is misleading. The quality of nutrition also matters.

Oh so my preemie was put on Pre-Aptimal at one point. Try arguing that with a neonatal nurse.

Totally agree. Well said hun
xx
 
oh man someone mentioned macdonalds at this hour and now we're all gonna get hungry :rofl:
 
they have a right to advertise formula - i think its awful that people get completly slated for using formula!! we feed our babys! thats all that matters!!!!!!!

Granted, feeding is better than starving, but is that "all that matters?" It's like saying "I put my child in holy clothes, but at least she's wearing clothes. That's all that matters right?"

From some of your recent threads about feeding im quite suprised you have such a rude attitude toward this discussion

If you dont have anything constructive to add then please move onto another thread where you can be less antagonstic.

It may be seen as constructive to point out when someone is being misleading. A lot of people come here for information and advice. I thought the comment about "being fed is all that matters" was misleading.
 
Food is food.

Cool. I'm on a diet. Should I have chocolate fudge cake or baked potato for dinner? Oh it doesn't matter, food is food right?

Your being stupid to compare an adults diet to a baby. It's completely different. My baby is FF, yours in BF, who gives a damn? My child is perfectly healthy, a bouncing 16lbs with not a problem. I don't usually enter into disagreements but I think your attitude stinks. We feed our children the milk that suits mother and child best. What other people feed their child is nothing to do with you and I fail to see why your back is up so much. If people were asking for judgement and opinions on what to feed their child I'm sure they would ask.

Personally, I dont see anything wrong with the advertisement xx
 
Is making a choice because you don't believe there to be much of a difference between formula and breastmilk a real choice?

This is what I've been trying to say, but you worded it better than me :flower:
 
It may be seen as constructive to point out when someone is being misleading. A lot of people come here for information and advice. I thought the comment about "being fed is all that matters" was misleading.

its not though is it.

Formula is used in neonatal units to help low birth weight babies put on weight.
Its also used because some mothers cant express.
Being fed is all that matters in those situations, its about saving babies lives.
Dont make it out to be such a awful 2nd class choice
 
Can I ask the Ffeeders

Do you think that once you have decided to ff and have started should there be offers on formula like BOGOF and things like that

I dont use Formula anymore but the one thing that really irked me was not getting boots points on formula, I think Tesco clubcard is the same. It wouldn't even bother me if I couldn't use the points to purchase Formula but I would still have liked the points from buying it!
 
the thing that really bothers me, is adverts for formula on breastfeeding advice websites. its like there are people having problems with breastfeeding, so they advertise their formula?
 
Is making a choice because you don't believe there to be much of a difference between formula and breastmilk a real choice?

This is what I've been trying to say, but you worded it better than me :flower:

"Breast is best" was rammed down my throat the second I fell pregnant. I find it hard to believe that anyone would think that formula was better nutritionally.
 
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