waiting for ivf and struggling!

[MinxyChick]

2have4kids - Sorry to hear about your concerns on your protocall, I'd like to think she has chosen this for more reasons than her schedule, her clinic will be judged on her suceses, so it's in her best interests to get you pregnant. Maybe when you have another appointment you could casually ask about it to set your mind at rest.
If you can afford it, it might be worth looking into accupuncture as that can improve the quality/quantity of eggs. I got an extra 8 after accupuncture but then my drugs were slightly different that time too (but there's nothing to say they are quality).

Ducktales - on my 2 IVFs, I did contraceptive pills & straight to gonal F, did gonal F for 10 days, day 11 ovitralle and collection on day 13. Scans days 6, 8 & 10. I'm probably not a good example because my E2 hormone soared and eggs grew quickly, I had my collections before all the other ladies in my group. This is part of the reason why I'm having a traditional buerslin cycle this time, in the hope they can give me more drugs. I had to drop down to 112.5 gonal f.

Mummy - hope your feeling better but this could be a good sign.

No new news here, just got over a big presentation at work so will sort out my holiday leave tomorrow for my treatment. I did have a first aider course booked in June but need to change that now as too close to 2ww and it involves alot CPR practice, so don't want the worry.

 

[mummy.wannabe]

You progressed quickly then. It shouldn't be too quick of too slow its not good for the eggs.

I'm getting frustrated being at home now. I need to get out. Going to do something tomorrow. I can't stay in, I'll be in a fowl mood again x

 

[Melbram]

Ducktales what an interesting job I would like to do something like that - Im in the other side of that industry I guess being a lawyer although dont deal with crime work lol

mummy - the 2ww is the worst isnt it when you have nothing to do. I would have gone insane if I didnt have some good books to read. I was too ill in the first week to leave the house last time

2have4kids: Like others have said Im sure they picked that protocol to suit you - I think generally and from reading other threads if its your first round they tend to use the long protocol. I think the main thing is that you have the right dose of stimms x

Ducktales: yey for starting stims - I cant remeber how long I stimmed for sorry

Minxy: I would postpone too - I havent been able to attend a few good courses and court hearing that are comming up mid/end April because I will be taking the 2 weeks off following transfer - always best to be safe and stress free

afm: so far so good - no side effects. Its strange this time around Im a lot more chilled and going with the flow not thinking about the IVF too much. Because I havent had any appointments at the clinic for 9 months doesnt feel real. It consumed me so much last time quite glad Im more relaxed this time around x

 

[bundlesofjoy]

Yeah it can be a bit boring stay at home all day there is only so much day time telly you can watch, go shopping even if its just window. Did you do any baking? I made a cheesecake over the weekend for the first time.
2have4kids yes I would talk to the dr about what protocol your on.

Ducktail glad the scan went well

Minxychick yeah the first aid course can be quite strenuous especially if they have you carrying the doll

Hi everyone else I have missed

 

[mummy.wannabe]

Melbram I felt exactly like that this time round. We've been through it before and know what's going to happen and as I had no sickness etc i just felt good about the whole thing.
I was fine with the wait so far until yesterday. Just over a week at home and it wasn't doing my head in.
I can't imagine having no Job and being at home all day but I can't wait to do it with my children. Ill have them to entertainment me and I can go out to see people x

After all that cooking the other day I did, I didn't want to eat any of it for dinner because I was sick of the smell. So I made cakes and had them instead. Ooopsy

Hubby was called out very early this morning so had to do my injection before he went. As soon as the needle went in, I instantly felt sick because of the pain. It was so intense I started to cry. He was so upset that he hurt me and I don't want to knock his confidence with doing it. I'm quite bruised now in both sides and I think it could be that but dreading tomorrows x

 

[Pinkie 33]

Aww your poor hubby. I feel quite sorry for the chaps through this as they cant take any of the brunt. Last time DP did all my jabs and it was hell for us both. I'm not sure I could have stuck needles in him. Doing it myself this time round has taken the pressure off us both although in a strange way I think he feels less involved. The things we have to go through

 

[mummy.wannabe]

I do feel sorry for him. He doesn't want to see me upset but I have to have them.
We need to ask a nurse if there are other places that I can have them done now.
Someone told me about a tablet called arnica.
It's herbal and stops bruising.
She took it before an op and didnt get any and is now taking it 2 weeks before she gives birth to aid her body with the healing.
I'm going to read up about it.

Did any of you living in uk watch the bedtime live last night. Trying to get kids of all ages out of there bad routines. I'm watching it now. It's good.
I hope I can get my children into a good routine.
I think it makes them happier children and you know exactly what they will be going at what time x

 

[2have4kids]

Hi Mummy, does this mean you test tomorrow? Wow, time flies if so, I'm very excited for you.
I've used arnica before, it comes in a cream/gel form and is used for soreness, bruising/sore joints. My masseuse usually has it on hand. Have you tried icing the location before you inject? It'd for sure stop bruising and probably numb your pain too. I'm sorry it's so painful, this is the progesterone yes? Can you do it in a meaty part of your arm or your bum muscle? Even your big leg muscles might be better especially if cold first from an ice pack. Here's a good little article with lots of tricks to help bruising: https://www.drweil.com/drw/u/ART02931/Bruises.html

Well 4th day of the pill and I don't feel depressed or moody, things feel fine. I haven't been losing any weight the past few weeks despite all of the exercise I've been doing, Oh well, it can't stick to me much longer eating this way. It'll come off soon enough I guess.

 

[mummy.wannabe]

I ice the area until it hurts its that cold and it still hurts going in because the needle is big.
It's the progesterone injection yes.
The nurse said it has to be the muscle on the side of your back.
I went to my local nurse today and asked where on your sides it can go from and too.
She said the rule is if you put your thumb on your hip and make a semi circle with your finger that's where the best muscles are. So ill get hubby to do it in a slightly different area tomorrow.

I'm feeling very emotional today. I've had a few crys. Just hormones I guess but it makes me feel better too after.
I think it's kicking in that ill be testing soon and ill find out either way. This is so important to us and its the crucial part now.
I test on Saturday but considering testing Friday.
I really don't know but I'm getting itchy to test now x

Glad your doing ok. I don't think you get too many side effects from being on the pill, its when you start stims x

I'm sure the weight will all of a sudden star dropping off. The pill might not help with the weight x

 

[2have4kids]

I ice the area until it hurts its that cold and it still hurts going in because the needle is big.
It's the progesterone injection yes.
The nurse said it has to be the muscle on the side of your back.
I went to my local nurse today and asked where on your sides it can go from and too.
She said the rule is if you put your thumb on your hip and make a semi circle with your finger that's where the best muscles are. So ill get hubby to do it in a slightly different area tomorrow.

I'm feeling very emotional today. I've had a few crys. Just hormones I guess but it makes me feel better too after.
I think it's kicking in that ill be testing soon and ill find out either way. This is so important to us and its the crucial part now.
I test on Saturday but considering testing Friday.
I really don't know but I'm getting itchy to test now x

Glad your doing ok. I don't think you get too many side effects from being on the pill, its when you start stims x

I'm sure the weight will all of a sudden star dropping off. The pill might not help with the weight x

No doubt you're feeling emotional with the whole process and all the hormones! Are you getting a beta from your clinic or do you just use a poas kind with your testing? I consider the FRER's lucky now that I've seen so many double lines with them. When I had my chemical last June, they detected HCG at 12mIU/ml, 7 days before my AF was due...I thought that was phenomenal. I did a blood test the same day at the docs office which measured the 12mIU/ml. Then my surprise pregnancy in sept with the shocking doubles again...after 2 years of ttc, I cried for almost a week straight in sept. Either way mummy, I'm sure you will get a positive!!

I just weighed this morning and 2 lbs dropped off, thank goodness.

Are you going to be able to continue the shots for 10 weeks if they are this painful? Or has your fs let you know you have to do them for your first 10 weeks? It sounds like you're doing everything you can to lessen the pain, sorry it hurts so much

 

[mummy.wannabe]

It has to be hormones and I've not been this emotional through the whole thing.
Just had another cry with hubby. He remembers them saying that the suppositories are 4 times stronger dose than the injections because its a more controlled thing.
How ever much is in the injection I absorb all of it, where as it going up your back side you don't take it all in.
I would have to do these injections for 12 weeks when the placenta has a full blood supply and starts doing its job. They said if it starts to become 2 painful I can go back and see if they can change it. But I'm scared for that too happen too.
So the symptoms are going to be much stronger on suppositories. I just have to stop analyising everything but its hard, when this Is the time we've been waiting for.

I really want to test tomorrow but I don't know!!!

Yay for 2lbs slowly but surely your getting there x

 

[2have4kids]

OK, I just shed some tears with you, my gf just posted on fb they're having their 3rd baby, my cousin just had her 4th baby two days ago (which was an oopsie). I can't take this anymore!! I called OH and he must be in the lab, got his machine. So frustrated right now.

 

[mummy.wannabe]

It's not nice is it.
But your on the right track to getting that yourself.
Your child children will know how wanted they are and not just an oppsie!!!
That's horrible for a child to know that. You can tell them the story of what you went through to get them.
That's why I have wrote down everything for my 1st cycle and this 1 so my children can read it if they want when there older.

I forgot to say that I haven't got a date for a beta. I test at home and then email my nurse and then if its positive book myself in for 1.
I have to go back Saturday and get more injections tho as run out Sunday and can't have money off after 2 weeks off or go in late x

Did you literally just see it on Facebook now then?
My friend will be announcing hers in just over a week?
Not sure if She's doing it on Facebook tho. She just wants to tell people at work.
My other friend knows what I'm going through and I woke up to a picture of a pregnancy test the other morning. It said a year ago today I pee'd on a stick!!
She does not think!! And who puts that on Facebook anyway!!
My other friend said she obviously has nothing else better to do.
She stays in the house with her 2 children all day everyday and hardly goes out.
There glued to that tele x

 

[2have4kids]

Babes, glued to the tele? = not good! Yes, she posted it on fb, a few min ago. They only hang with their friends who have kids now, we went to their wedding, baby showers, see them at the cabin every now and then (their parents own a cabin where my bil has one) but that's about it. They all know I'm up for IVF and have been ttc for many years now. I don't expect them to hide it or anything, I'm just disappointed it's taken this long for us. It REALLY makes me want twins though, I want my big family! I hate these weekends seeing all the little munchkins skiing (OMG they are SO cute). I wish I could just scoop one up and take them home. Some days I think it will never happen.

What makes it weird is I haven't seen them for so long I'm going to feel awkward inviting them to my baby shower, if it ever happens. I've thought about it and maybe a meet and greet will be more appropriate.

 

[Pinkie 33]

Aww ladies I find it really tricky to deal with other peoples pregnancies sometimes, especially when they talk about nothing else. My Mum said it was much better in her day when they didnt have the internet to share every last detail! Shes right in some ways but not in others. I've switched quite a few folks off on Facebook so that I'm still 'friends' but dont have to read/look at piccies 24-7.

Hope you are both feeling better soon x

AFM - still waiting for AF

 

[mummy.wannabe]

Yep there both glued to it. 2 years old and 14 weeks. That all she posts pics of. Them in front of the tv or what film there watching.
She's scared to take them out. She writes about having to be brave to take them out on her own. She doesn't realise how lucky she is and there good children too.

Its a Shame your friends are like that. It's sad because there not letting you decide if you wanted to distance yourself from them.
You could be invited to things and if you couldn't cope with it then that's up to you.
It's silly of them. Some people don't know how to react.
Maybe if you meet with 1 of them. You can explain that you don't mind socialising with friends and there children so don't exclude you. Maybe they will realise x

I hope I can go through it with my best friend. We would be 8weeks apart x


Pinkie- I'm the same. I've blocked a lot of people too.
Facebook does cause problems sometimes and its great in others x

 

[Ducktales]

Mummy I am sorry you are finding it hard, the waiting is just awful but you are so near now
2have4kids and pinkie I am so with you on the Facebook thing, so many people's threads are hidden I don't get many updates these days!!
2lbs is great, I think I just ate that in steak!
Start stimming tomorrow
Xxxx

 

[2have4kids]

Start stimming tomorrow
Xxxx

OHH this is exciting! Time to grow follies, grow!

 

[MinxyChick]

Ducktales - woohoo exciting times!
Mummy - I feel your emotions. It's so hard resisting to test, for me I kept telling myself I didn't want to see a false positive or false negative. Week 2 is definitely the worse. It's just so important.

Totally agree on everyone's facebook stories & people getting pregnant. I've been quite lucky as me & DH are only children and a lot of our friends already have children that are 10yrs +. And all my close friends know.
My worst story is....I've got one friend who already has 2 kids 7+ from her 1st marriage and is Sooo unlucky in love and generally pretty unlucky. Anyway she starts going out with this loser (drink, drugs & money problems), she's got pregnant in the past at a drop of a hat. Anyway after 6 months this loser gets her pregnant twice by accident (she had 2 miscarriages), then when she came round for my bday I kinda felt she'd get pregnant again, so I asked her if they were trying & she said no. Then a month later after my 1st ivf on the day we had our follow up she texted me to say she was pregnant. And she knew it was our follow up! But then I found out she was having her scan 4 days later, she needed to tell me so she could facebook brag. I used to see her about once a fortnight & she hasn't many friends, I've seen her 5 times since then. We're still friends & it's easier now the baby is here but on the one hand I don't think I'll ever forgive her for her insensitivity and on the other it's so unfair she can pregnant so easily by anyone, I'm in a committed relationship with a good man, we have a happy home and this happens. Urghhhhh! I knew she'd wanted a baby before & I wonder if she planned it. Who gets pregnant 3 times in 4 months by accident? Her first child was accident & 2nd after first time if trying. Also she has no money to support her first two children, so that annoys me as I know we could never afford 3! That's today's rant.

Afm: booked 2 days off for EC (which I can move), & a week after transfer. Will be first week in june by then, maybe some sun. Wheels in motion to change first aid course.

 

[mummy.wannabe]

Hope your 1st gonal went ok this morning ducktales.

Minxy that's horrible of your so called friend! I wouldn't want to see that person much either.
She takes for granted the fact that she will fall pregnant so quickly and so many women do! I know everyone loves there baby/ babies but I honestly think we will appreciate everything about our pregnancy and children.
This world is not fair at all.
Like you say. We're all in stable loving relationships with jobs, houses etc and the thing to make our family complete is the thing we can't do the natural way x

My injection went better this morning.
Hubby has changed sites and doing it much lower.
I think the skin had start to toughen up on the other sites because he said it went in a lot easier.
Hope I never have the pain of yesterday injection again x