Welcome to 'Trying To Conceive Over 35'

[alicatt]

Baby.. yep.. that is normal.. it is good that your ovaries feel full it means you have some nice follicles growing

Looking forward to your update tomorrow!!!

Ok update time, I have 3 good follies at 15, 14 and 13. There is a triple lining as well. Dr is very happy with how I'm doing esp considering my AMH was .47 then .75. He wants to see me tomorrow for more blood work and another u/s. He said IUI should be before Monday. I hope they continue to grow! How does this sound Ali, our resident expert?

Any one have anything fun planned for Easter? These Cadbury commercials have me craving chocolate like its my job!

DOUBLE That all sounds amazing! What dose of Gonal F are you on? They were at 10mm on Monday right? So they will probably get you to trigger either tomorrow night or Friday night, possibly Saturday, it will just depend on how they grow. Having 2-4 is what they want for an IUI, if you have too many, they will cancel and either make you do an IVF or nothing at all. Course I think at our age having more is better. Especially after reading that by age 40 only 25% of our eggs are chromosomally intact!

Sounds to me like you have a better ovarian reserve than the AMH of .75 states. I think they are still trying to figure out how accurate that test is. You are not the first person to respond well to fertility drugs with a low AMH. Of course quantity does not necessarily = quality, but I have no idea if AMH can predict quality

Give in to the chocolate cravings, it is part of being on fertility meds!!! I have eaten more chocolate in the past 9 months doing IUIs and IVFs than I have in my entire life So don't fight it, roll with it!



It has gotten so bad that I must have chocolate in the house, last night I even bought fudge

BTW.. I'm asking about your dose because if this doesn't work your dose of Gonal F will dictate how much meds you need for your IVF. I was on monster doses, and I wonder if it was all necessary I responded like you are on Gonal F and Menopur at very low doses, but in Canada. My FS here seemed to think I needed huge doses of Menopur and Bravelle. I wonder if I did? So it is more of a curiosity for me.

Keep up the amazing work!!! Oh and I'm going to warn you in advance, you will feel ovulation, and it will be intense. Not to the point of doubling over, but you will most likely feel it! Plus if AF does come it will be intense too. Just wanted to share that with you so you know in advance!

I am on 75 units of Gonal F. This is great info. I hope they trigger soon. I'm happy this is coinciding with the holiday as I have off Friday. I am hyper aware of my ovaries and what's percolating there. I'm beginning to ache.

As far as AMH the nurse said they think stress can throw off the number. Even pre stim meds the Dr saw my follies and felt they looked better than my test showed. I really hope this works. Having 3 good follies so far is encouraging.

I wish I could eat chocolate but it has caffeine! I'm not supposed to have any right? As far as this epic ovulation can I take pain meds or just Tylenol which is as good as having a Tic Tac.

I hear you on Tylenol = tic tac! Great way to explain it. It doesn't do diddly for me either.

OK, I did 75 iu as well and while my FS put me on monster doses of Menopur and Bravelle, I did have great results with IVF (well great follicular response).

Interesting about stress causing AMH to fluxuate! Could be!

I know that chocolate has caffeine, but how much? I know that most pregnant women stick with 1 cup or tea or 1 cup of coffee a day. Maybe you could have some now before the egg gets released? I think caffeine causes the tubes to spasm, and you don't want that happening while the egg and are trying to meet! Whenever I was in a conundrum like this I either googled the crap out of the question, or called my FS! Then googled some more, and decided what I felt comfortable with!

 

[Grey Eyes]

Melly- I see in your signature you have exercise induced amenorrhea..I used to have that also- the only thing that seemed to fix it for me was:
1)boost my calorie intake
2) reduce exercise some
3) black cohosh but every woman is different.

Babywhisperer- caffeine can be bad but some milk chocolate probably wouldn't hurt. How about something like Nesquick? It's chocolatey but 99% caffeine free

 

[alicatt]

BabyW.. meant to say that ovulation shouldn't require pain meds, but it will be uncomfortable.. at least most women feel it!

 

[Grey Eyes]

BabyW.. meant to say that ovulation shouldn't require pain meds, but it will be uncomfortable.. at least most women feel it!

I have felt it before (of course w/o IUI or IVF...maybe it makes a difference??) anyway felt like a sharp pain in my ovary and a piercing cramp then a dull ache and it faded.

 

[alicatt]

BabyW.. meant to say that ovulation shouldn't require pain meds, but it will be uncomfortable.. at least most women feel it!

I have felt it before (of course w/o IUI or IVF...maybe it makes a difference??) anyway felt like a sharp pain in my ovary and a piercing cramp then a dull ache and it faded.

it's way worse with IUI, since you have multiple follicles bursting. You don't have any ovulation pain in IVF because you don't ovulate at all.

It usually lasts a several hours, but it's more uncomfortable with a few stabbing pains, I didn't take anything for it. Think really bad period cramps

 

[never_give_up]

Pycnogenol is the supplement for mens' Though it is mostly for poor sperm morphology. It is about $40 for a 30 day supply so quite expensive and dh was taking it for over a year. I don't know if it helped cuz he never went for his appoint with urologist to get the sperm analysis.) Also the main thing I changed up a month before my bfp was letting him take the vit c separately from his mulitvitamin because the vit c and vit e together don't do well for sperm. Actually destroys them. So he would get his vit c from camu powder I would put in his smoothie along with maca and pomegranate powder and then he would take his multivit at night with dinner.

Sorry this is a short post but there were several pages to catch up on and it's after 10 pm and I am tired and dh is waiting for me in bed already.

Good night ladies

 

[Grey Eyes]

Chantal!

Ali- "You don't have any ovulation pain in IVF because you don't ovulate at all." Oh...yeah... lol!

 

[alicatt]

Chantal!

Ali- "You don't have any ovulation pain in IVF because you don't ovulate at all." Oh...yeah... lol!

YEP! They go in and remove them! Course with IVF you still hurt! The ER isn't a walk in the park. Oh well.. it's all worth it if I get a baby or 2!

Heard from V! YAY!

 

[Babywhisperer]

Chantal!

Ali- "You don't have any ovulation pain in IVF because you don't ovulate at all." Oh...yeah... lol!

YEP! They go in and remove them! Course with IVF you still hurt! The ER isn't a walk in the park. Oh well.. it's all worth it if I get a baby or 2!

Heard from V! YAY!

I am very aware of ovu as it is. I cramp for 1-2 days. I totally zonked out last night at 8. I'm on the train now heading into the city to have my u/s and bw before work. I hope the follies have grown nicely from yesterday. Today will be my 4th time at the dr since Sunday. What am I going to do during my 2ww with no Dr appts to keep me busy? I'd love to get back to the gym if I have energy. I have to take progesterone supps 2x day so I have no idea how they will make me feel.

I'm excited for Easter! My brother, SIL and their new dog are coming up from NJ! I rarely get to see them. How are you ladies this fine morning?

 

[AngelSerenity]

Babywhisperer good luck for today!


Ali... you are a wealth of knowledge lady


Chantal... how are you?


Coy... any joy those spots off yet? How's the rest of the family now?


Twiggers, Melly, Sams:wave:


Still feeling a bit rough ladies but I think I'm on the mend now. I had a scan today and we have a heartbeat. The sac is also not being compromised by my possible uterine septum . I was a little disappointed with the scan though as my RMC did it so quick I noticed he was a bit careless. One of the pointers to measure growth wasn't even at the end of the sac, I can clearly see this in the scan pic. He has put me at 7 weeks, when I should be 7 weeks 2 days from ovulation date so I'm trying to just bear in mind the scan could be slight human error and all is well .


The next 3 weeks are my crunch period, back in a fortnight. There's no point me even posting the scan up girls as the scanner machine was pretty pants as well and it's not very clear xo

 

[alicatt]

Quick post..

Baby.. how did your scan go?

Angel.. don't worry.. sounds like your RMC was pants! Did they tell you the heart beat value?

I'm at the FS waiting for my scan.. hoping my lining is growing!!!

 

[Babywhisperer]

Quick post..

Baby.. how did your scan go?

Angel.. don't worry.. sounds like your RMC was pants! Did they tell you the heart beat value?

I'm at the FS waiting for my scan.. hoping my lining is growing!!!

Popping in to update after my 4th u/s this week. Follies didn't grow as much from yesterday as they did from Sunday to Tuesday so I have to back tomorrow. He's keeping me at 75 units of Gonal F. There is a triple lining and I think the largest follie is 15.5. I hope acupuncture this afternoon helps bc I'd love to trigger tomorrow night and do IUI on Sunday. Crossing fingers this works!! If not it's onto IVF. Grow follies grow!

 

[AngelSerenity]

No Ali, it was literally a 30second scan and bham you're done. His bedside manner isnt the best I'll admit but he is supposed to be the best in the country. I should be happy but I'm not, I suppose the feelings are to be expected after so many losses. Roll on the next fortnight.

On the plus, I have two interviews lined up for those two assessments I attended last week


Good luck with the scan


BW... I'm sending folly growing vibes your way!

 

[alicatt]

Quick post..

Baby.. how did your scan go?

Angel.. don't worry.. sounds like your RMC was pants! Did they tell you the heart beat value?

I'm at the FS waiting for my scan.. hoping my lining is growing!!!

Popping in to update after my 4th u/s this week. Follies didn't grow as much from yesterday as they did from Sunday to Tuesday so I have to back tomorrow. He's keeping me at 75 units of Gonal F. There is a triple lining and I think the largest follie is 15.5. I hope acupuncture this afternoon helps bc I'd love to trigger tomorrow night and do IUI on Sunday. Crossing fingers this works!! If not it's onto IVF. Grow follies grow!

OK, so you are getting there! My follicles were sloooooowwww.. sometimes it just takes time to make perfection It is perfectly normal at this point to be going daily. I was, and will be again for my FET I'm sure. It just becomes part of your daily routine, but then after IUI or ET, you have withdrawal! Its like.. wait.. no Dr's appts? But I want to know what is going on down there? I did go in around 7dpo for a p4 test to make sure it was sufficiently high enough. One thing I did during my stim phase was use a hot water bottle to help them along. It seemed to help, my follicles went from 15-19 overnight! So you could try that?

 

[alicatt]

No Ali, it was literally a 30second scan and bham you're done. His bedside manner isnt the best I'll admit but he is supposed to be the best in the country. I should be happy but I'm not, I suppose the feelings are to be expected after so many losses. Roll on the next fortnight.

On the plus, I have two interviews lined up for those two assessments I attended last week


Good luck with the scan


BW... I'm sending folly growing vibes your way!

Geesh! Well from his demeanor he didn't seem to be concerned, so I would take that as a good thing, and just keep thinking positive thoughts! Good luck on your interviews!!!

 

[alicatt]

AFM - my appt was a little odd.. my FS is off enjoying some trip with his family, so I had to wait for the PA to arrive. Then she did my US and was concerned that I was losing my triple line Then she moved the wand a little and it looked better, at least IMO (since I've literally had like 200 of these in the past 6-8 months). I know I'm not a US tech, but it certainly looked fine to me. Still she was hesitant. It has grown and it is now 8.5mm up from 6.7mm. So I don't know what she was all upset about. I guess they wanted to see it above 9mm? I am pretty sure I haven't O'd yet, so I think its a bit premature for them to be putting me on progesterone anyway. So the FS is going to get a report, and will review where I am currently and we'll go from there. I go back in on Monday unless the FS wants me to go back sooner. Since this is the first trial FET with biopsy, they don't know how he will react, so its all a little uncertain I guess. So I wait until this afternoon for further instructions

 

[Babywhisperer]

AFM - my appt was a little odd.. my FS is off enjoying some trip with his family, so I had to wait for the PA to arrive. Then she did my US and was concerned that I was losing my triple line Then she moved the wand a little and it looked better, at least IMO (since I've literally had like 200 of these in the past 6-8 months). I know I'm not a US tech, but it certainly looked fine to me. Still she was hesitant. It has grown and it is now 8.5mm up from 6.7mm. So I don't know what she was all upset about. I guess they wanted to see it above 9mm? I am pretty sure I haven't O'd yet, so I think its a bit premature for them to be putting me on progesterone anyway. So the FS is going to get a report, and will review where I am currently and we'll go from there. I go back in on Monday unless the FS wants me to go back sooner. Since this is the first trial FET with biopsy, they don't know how he will react, so its all a little uncertain I guess. So I wait until this afternoon for further instructions

Don't be alarmed by the PA, they are usually more anxious esp if the Dr is out and they are taking the load. I can see you doing your own u/s one day all like "I got this!"

I'm nervous I am stalling

 

[alicatt]

AFM - my appt was a little odd.. my FS is off enjoying some trip with his family, so I had to wait for the PA to arrive. Then she did my US and was concerned that I was losing my triple line Then she moved the wand a little and it looked better, at least IMO (since I've literally had like 200 of these in the past 6-8 months). I know I'm not a US tech, but it certainly looked fine to me. Still she was hesitant. It has grown and it is now 8.5mm up from 6.7mm. So I don't know what she was all upset about. I guess they wanted to see it above 9mm? I am pretty sure I haven't O'd yet, so I think its a bit premature for them to be putting me on progesterone anyway. So the FS is going to get a report, and will review where I am currently and we'll go from there. I go back in on Monday unless the FS wants me to go back sooner. Since this is the first trial FET with biopsy, they don't know how he will react, so its all a little uncertain I guess. So I wait until this afternoon for further instructions

Don't be alarmed by the PA, they are usually more anxious esp if the Dr is out and they are taking the load. I can see you doing your own u/s one day all like "I got this!"

I'm nervous I am stalling

I can see you doing your own u/s one day all like "I got this!" At this point I almost feel that way! Course if I do get pregnant it will be a whole new thing, because something will be in there! I know what the uterus should look like, and I know what ovaries should look like, I want to know what a baby looks like!

So last night I was talking with Coy on FB about my date with V, and I was talking about how the US pic of V's baby was cute, but apparently they had trouble seeing that it was a boy because he kept playing with his junk. Well she misread what I was saying and thought I meant that V was playing with his junk during out date! Too funny. Thought I would share.. hope Coy doesn't mind!

 

[Babywhisperer]

AFM - my appt was a little odd.. my FS is off enjoying some trip with his family, so I had to wait for the PA to arrive. Then she did my US and was concerned that I was losing my triple line Then she moved the wand a little and it looked better, at least IMO (since I've literally had like 200 of these in the past 6-8 months). I know I'm not a US tech, but it certainly looked fine to me. Still she was hesitant. It has grown and it is now 8.5mm up from 6.7mm. So I don't know what she was all upset about. I guess they wanted to see it above 9mm? I am pretty sure I haven't O'd yet, so I think its a bit premature for them to be putting me on progesterone anyway. So the FS is going to get a report, and will review where I am currently and we'll go from there. I go back in on Monday unless the FS wants me to go back sooner. Since this is the first trial FET with biopsy, they don't know how he will react, so its all a little uncertain I guess. So I wait until this afternoon for further instructions

Don't be alarmed by the PA, they are usually more anxious esp if the Dr is out and they are taking the load. I can see you doing your own u/s one day all like "I got this!"

I'm nervous I am stalling

I can see you doing your own u/s one day all like "I got this!" At this point I almost feel that way! Course if I do get pregnant it will be a whole new thing, because something will be in there! I know what the uterus should look like, and I know what ovaries should look like, I want to know what a baby looks like!

So last night I was talking with Coy on FB about my date with V, and I was talking about how the US pic of V's baby was cute, but apparently they had trouble seeing that it was a boy because he kept playing with his junk. Well she misread what I was saying and thought I meant that V was playing with his junk during out date! Too funny. Thought I would share.. hope Coy doesn't mind!

Well if the baby was playing with his, maybe the junk doesn't fall far from the tree? Habahahaba

 

[alicatt]

Well if the baby was playing with his, maybe the junk doesn't fall far from the tree? Habahahaba

OMG.. I hope he doesn't read my other posts! He'd be mortified!

He said he'd be back in 3-5 weeks and is looking forward to lunch again. Can't wait I think it will be a while before I find out That is fine by me though, we both have a lot of stuff on our plate. Then if we do get together the possibility of 2-3 babies all under 1 His boy is due mid-August, if I get pregnant this upcoming cycle my 1-2 will be born somewhere between mid-Dec to mid-Jan (twins gestation period is slightly less than a singleton). Now that would be insanity!