Anyone LTTTC Number One?

[Ceilani]

You're right ESwemba...it does feel like fertility is a luxury. But I do feel lucky that my insurance at least covers all of the I/F diagnostics. They also cover clomid and femara, but the buck stops there. IUI (and any associated U/S), IVF, and any injectible meds are not covered.

They'll tell me what's wrong with me, but they won't pay much to fix it, lol.

J_Lynn are you going to stay with femara for now, then? (And the "buy wine and get plastered" comment made me LOL....I've heard that one more than I'd like!)

ESwemba, do you still get the progesterone through prescription, or do you pick it up online?

Ella - I've found this thread in general to be therapeutic!

 

[fisher640]

Don't you love all of the explanations people pull out of their arses. If I hear "It will happen when god wants it to" again I may strangle the person. I actually said to a great aunt of mine "I'm sorry, but I can't believe in a god that allows neglectful, waste cases to society to breed like rabbits when there are loving couples who struggle to have one." Another one of my favorites is "Everything happens for a reason" I want to slap the people and say "There it happened for a reason".

I work in an ER and we've seen some pretty lame examples of parents come through. I was once present when I heard the ER doc go on a rant with a capital R about "Darwin was wrong! I can't believe it but he was, this is not survival of the fittest!" She went on and on about crappy examples of parents and people with infertility and surely Darwin was wrong. (It was pretty hysterical actually)

 

[J_Lynn]

Yes, I maxed out the clomid use - he won't use it for more than a few months since it can do more harm than help after a certain point. So I am on femara for the next 12 cycles. Hopefully it won't take that long. I am going to suggest IUIs if after 4 cycles we still have nothing.

I really do like the femara though, the follicles it gave me just were amazing. I didn't think I could ever do that - so I know it's only my first cycle but I really really love femara.

My insurance covers all the things we do to discover the reason for infertility - but it doesn't cover the actual act of then trying to conceive. So they have covered all my labs, my surgeries, my appointments, etc - the clomid and such isn't covered because it's considered "fertility treatment" instead of "infertility treatment" if I understood their explination correctly haha Which, I am honestly fine with. I have excellent insurance so I am OK with it. My husbands insurance covers $15k in fertility treatments - so if we move to IUIs, I will be changing to his insurance at open enrollment this year and we will start IUIs Jan of next year since his covers all of that. So I have a small plan in the works if I can't do this without even more help. hahah

 

[J_Lynn]

Don't you love all of the explanations people pull out of their arses. If I hear "It will happen when god wants it to" again I may strangle the person. I actually said to a great aunt of mine "I'm sorry, but I can't believe in a god that allows neglectful, waste cases to society to breed like rabbits when there are loving couples who struggle to have one." Another one of my favorites is "Everything happens for a reason" I want to slap the people and say "There it happened for a reason".

I work in an ER and we've seen some pretty lame examples of parents come through. I was once present when I heard the ER doc go on a rant with a capital R about "Darwin was wrong! I can't believe it but he was, this is not survival of the fittest!" She went on and on about crappy examples of parents and people with infertility and surely Darwin was wrong. (It was pretty hysterical actually)

hahahahah that is fantastic

 

[ESwemba84]

You're right ESwemba...it does feel like fertility is a luxury. But I do feel lucky that my insurance at least covers all of the I/F diagnostics. They also cover clomid and femara, but the buck stops there. IUI (and any associated U/S), IVF, and any injectible meds are not covered.

They'll tell me what's wrong with me, but they won't pay much to fix it, lol.

J_Lynn are you going to stay with femara for now, then? (And the "buy wine and get plastered" comment made me LOL....I've heard that one more than I'd like!)

ESwemba, do you still get the progesterone through prescription, or do you pick it up online?

Ella - I've found this thread in general to be therapeutic!

My RE sent a prescription to the pharmacy, because its the suppositories, and they have to compound it.

 

[cntrygrl]

I have heard something about your infertility costs being tax deductible. Any truth to that?

 

[J_Lynn]

All medical costs are tax deductible as far as I know. I deduct everrrryyyytttthhhinnnnggggg medical related to infertility or not. My husbands medical, his kids, etc - it all gets dudcted.

 

[kcarey77]

I have heard something about your infertility costs being tax deductible. Any truth to that?

Last year it was tax deductible if you spent 7.5% of your earned income. This year, Obama raised it to 10%. SOB!
IF will not be covered once Obama Care goes into effect and now he's making it increasing more difficult to write it off if you can afford to treatments.

This was published in TIME magazine June 2013.

 

[J_Lynn]

He's making everything increasingly more difficult. Just one more thing to add to the list of reasons he disgusts me. (I hate all politicians ... it's not just him, he's just my least favorite of them all. Well, at least he's in the top 3)

 

[kcarey77]

Yup, I cant stand him either.
I will absolutely write all my medical off anyways becasue I'm an Independent Contractor. Let the IRS tell me I cant write off $10,000+ dollars of UNCOVERED medical care with insurance. I get receipts for everything! LOL

GL on everything ladies! I am in the waiting period after my first sFET last week. I'm praying for a miracle!

 

[cntrygrl]

Certainly seems like they roll out the red carpet for welfare recipients, but those of us who actually put back into the economy get shit on.

 

[J_Lynn]

Of course. They hate us - they want a bunch of weak people who are dependent on them. Makes me so sad every time I see my paycheck and tax returns. 63% of our income last year went to taxes...either federal or local

 

[Feisty Fidget]

Omg I had no idea you guys were stung so heavily on taxes! Overs here it works out at a flat 23% ish and then only increases once you hit the big earnings - and that includes free standard healthcare.

We are fortunate in the UK to have the NHS, but once you start needing things that they deem none standard, you have to jump through hoops. On the NHS I have had CD 21 blood check twice, HSG, ultrasounds and Clomid. As you know that is very basic testing, they have now washed their hands of me and told me IVF is best shot BUT NHS believe I shouldn't be a parent until I'm 30, so I have to go it alone until I'm eligible for funded IVF. They change the rules constantly and there was talk that having two miscarriages could mean I'm refused NHS IVF and just to make things even more confusing the rules are different depending on what county you live in!

Because we have the NHS private healthcare insurance is too expensive to afford and even if we managed, I'm yet to find a plan that covers any IF treatment.

 

[Tella]

Reading the last 4 pages were very therapeutic! All those excuses are always given by people who fell preg quickly and most probably never even experienced a loss.

My worst one since the m/c is "there was something wrong with the baby, so its better that way" WTF its not like it makes it easier. And the list goes on an on. Amazing how people become self proclaimed experts.

Gl to all you ladies nearing testing!

and the rest of you have fun BDing

 

[Ella_Hopeful]

I tested today (I think 8dpo) and got a I'm such an idiot for testing so early again I never learn!

I'm not letting myself get disappointed though because a) it was too early b) I anyway have my lap. next month so there's a good reason NOT to get pg this month and something to 'look forward to'!

 

[Feisty Fidget]

I tested today (I think 8dpo) and got a I'm such an idiot for testing so early again I never learn!

I'm not letting myself get disappointed though because a) it was too early b) I anyway have my lap. next month so there's a good reason NOT to get pg this month and something to 'look forward to'!

My rule of thumb is; Will I believe the result if I test early? IE will I tell myself a is because I'm only 8dpo etc, or if by some miracle it's a will I convince myself it's an evap or a chemical? If I answer yes, then I refuse to test

I actually have to be 2+ days late AND have had ovulation confirmed by FF before I test Saves a lot of heartache in the long run x

Good Luck with your lap next month!

 

[Ella_Hopeful]

I tested today (I think 8dpo) and got a I'm such an idiot for testing so early again I never learn!

I'm not letting myself get disappointed though because a) it was too early b) I anyway have my lap. next month so there's a good reason NOT to get pg this month and something to 'look forward to'!

My rule of thumb is; Will I believe the result if I test early? IE will I tell myself a is because I'm only 8dpo etc, or if by some miracle it's a will I convince myself it's an evap or a chemical? If I answer yes, then I refuse to test

I actually have to be 2+ days late AND have had ovulation confirmed by FF before I test Saves a lot of heartache in the long run x

Good Luck with your lap next month!

Ha, nothing stops me - I've tried but always cave in I kid myself that I won't mind if it's negative, and imagine how I will feel if it is positive!

I got my progesterone levels back today - they were over 40 which is over double what I've ever had before. So it looks like I ovulated more than one egg!

 

[Samsungwer]

Reading the last 4 pages were very therapeutic! All those excuses are always given by people who fell preg quickly and most probably never even experienced a loss.

My worst one since the m/c is "there was something wrong with the baby, so its better that way" WTF its not like it makes it easier. And the list goes on an on. Amazing how people become self proclaimed experts.

Gl to all you ladies nearing testing!

and the rest of you have fun BDing

Totally agree about it being therapeutic !!
The things people say .. I think the word 'relax' alone can drive me nuts !!

To top that i have my dh grandmother who asks me if im pregnant every week .. I wish her asking could get me pregnant .. Id have a dozen children by now .. Or even if i had BDed as often as she asks me id be knocked up against all odds !

And my clomid doesnt help me when i have these rage issues !mad woman is what i amm ..

Lol god i feel a lot better after venting !!

 

[Feisty Fidget]

Bit of a toughie yesterday - one girl posted a coded facebook status that I automatically interpreted as a and I've also found out that one of my friends is actively ttc - they married last year, but still live with parents, very self obsessed and can't afford to move out, so how can they afford a child! I know she will fall pregnant quickly, whine all the way through the pregnancy and then realize she only wanted the child as two friends gave birth recently grrrrr makes my blood boil!

 

[ESwemba84]

Ella, I always test early too, and tell myself the same things too. And while I'm holding the test in different forms and intensities of light, I actually tell myself "what are you doing? This is a negative test. Stop torturing yourself" and end up staring at it for an hour longer hoping by some miracle a second line just shows up a little late to the party. Your progesterone levels look good! Good luck!

Feisty, I had the same thing happen yesterday. I am a part of a secret group for infertility on FB. I posted about waking up to AF yesterday morning only 9DPO after my first Femara Cycle while taking progesterone, and that it was a hard day. And not even 20 minutes later, this other woman posts that she got a BFP. My heart literally sank into my stomach. I have a hard time watching people get BFPs without getting very sad about the fact that its not me.