anyone over 35 going for fertility treatments this year? IUI, IVF etc

[crystal443]

I did Flare last cycle and it didn't go well I guess it really depends on each person as to what works..the really crappy part is that it costs money to figure out what works I'll be trying an Antagonist cycle this time around..same short cycle as Flare but just different meds and the meds are at different times in the cycle.

Dmom- those costumes sound fantastic!!! Can't wait to see them

 

[dachsundmom]

I did Flare last cycle and it didn't go well I guess it really depends on each person as to what works..the really crappy part is that it costs money to figure out what works I'll be trying an Antagonist cycle this time around..same short cycle as Flare but just different meds and the meds are at different times in the cycle.

Dmom- those costumes sound fantastic!!! Can't wait to see them

Estrogen based?

 

[Milty]

I know you guys kinda moved on but I wanted to tell you what happened to my cousin.

My cousin and her DH found out that he had a type of cancer not long after they were married. So thinking ahead they did IVF and froze the little ones for later. He recovered and a few years went by so they started making plans to do the first implantation. They were so excited and told everyone about it. However, 2 weeks before the big day they found out he went into remission. It happend very fast and he died 1 month later.

About 1 yr after he died her in-laws came to her giving her a speech that it was time for her to move on and continue with her life. She was agreeing with them until she learned that they wanted her to have their childern. Her DH was Asian Indian and the only son. Not that there is anything wrong with that but I wanted to give you some insight into why her in-laws were asking her to do what they did. Their requests became less and less like request and she dreaded being around them. Finally she had to tell them there was no way she and DH wanted their kids to have a single mom. With that they left her alone. She recently got remarried and now they want her and her new DH to have their sons childern. I feel so bad for them but it has been really really hard on her as well because she misses him and their dream of having kids.


Anyway long story short what ever you do ......don't tell your inlaws or anyone else that might be nosy what you might or might not have on ice.

 

[Indigo77]

This is amazing....Can someone explain this to me, please?

People are willing to partake in the science to get their own baby, but to hell with everyone else?

In turn, they also seem to have all these 'issues' with what will happen to the embryos while they seem to forget that other people's embryos have been sacrificed in the name of science so people like THEM can do IVF!

OK...perhaps not everyone's embryos would be attractive to another infertile couple, but they could be useful to science.

It doesn't strike anyone else as selfish and illogical?

 

[crystal443]

I did Flare last cycle and it didn't go well I guess it really depends on each person as to what works..the really crappy part is that it costs money to figure out what works I'll be trying an Antagonist cycle this time around..same short cycle as Flare but just different meds and the meds are at different times in the cycle.

Dmom- those costumes sound fantastic!!! Can't wait to see them

Estrogen based?

Not sure Dmom..with the FLare cycle I had to spray the Synarel up my nose twice a day from CD 2 and started the Puregon 225 on CD 3. have a scan 5 days later and they can tell you when to trigger.

With this cycle I will start Puregon 400 on CD 3 and have a scan on day 5 of stimming, she'll then decide when I start the new med Orgalutran.
With the Flare cycle they supress and stimulate but there isn't as much control on how long they can let the eggs grow. They can prevent you from ovualting with Synarel but only for so long..about CD 14 or a bit longer. With the atagonist cycle they will Stim with a high dose and then give me the meds to suppress ovualtation so they can control things better and if I need more time for things to mature they can do that, and then they can do more scans and can decide when everything is ready to trigger. If that makes sense. The problem is they can't tell what works best until they try. If she had given me 400 Puregon and I was a good responder she could have over stimulated me. I'm not sure if its estrogen based though.
Milty-Your exactly right..it is best to keep some info a bit private when it comes to family

 

[Indigo77]

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[onmymind17]

OMM...do you know if you are looking at a flare cycle or a down reg? Will birth control be involved?

Honestly i have no idea what kind of cycle they will do, we have not spoken to the doctor about it yet, they have wanted me to have all the tests done before we even talk to them about the IVF. We were so focused on donor that now i have to shift my focus on to me lol. Honestly i am hoping that birth control will not be involved, my cycles are very accurate, so i am hoping that she will go as natural as possible rather than forcing something to happen.

Since you are changing your focus to your own eggs, I would try and keep an open mind and use whichever protocol your doc thinks will give you the best odds.

This is so exciting! I have been stalking all of you on TTC #1 and I can't tell you how great I think all of this is...

Yeah thats what i figure i will go with whatever she thinks will be the best for us, and all i can do is try to be as healthy as i can and pray a whole lot.

LOL, for me its not so exciting any more, i am so tired, talk about being at the end of your rope. I just talked to DH and he does not want to use donor eggs from someone we know, but is not willing to just give up if my eggs dont work, ugh, i honestly dont know what to do, i think for him its the same as for me, we have been doing this for so long now that if it comes to an end, what do we do, its like being addicted i mean how do you stop and just say yep its all over. For me i am happy, i want to give my eggs a shot, i really believe in my heart that my eggs could work, but who knows, thanks for stalking, i appreciate the love and support!!

 

[crystal443]

This is amazing....Can someone explain this to me, please?

People are willing to partake in the science to get their own baby, but to hell with everyone else.

In turn, they also seem to have all these 'issues' with what will happen to the embryos while they seem to forget that other people's embryos have been sacrificed in the name of science so people like THEM can do IVF!

OK...perhaps not everyone's embryos would be attractive to another infertile couple, but they could be useful to science.

It doesn't strike anyone else as selfish and illogical?

That's the hard part Indigo..it isn't just a cycle with IVF, when there's embryos its more to it. DH would rather donate to scicnce then donate to a couple with left overs. If he dies I can keep them or they'll be donated and if we divorce I keep them and they'll be donated. If I die then its his choice to destroy or donate but he cannot keep them. Regardless they'll be donated to a couple or to science. That's why the councelling is so important, everything should be discussed and agreed to before anything moves forward.

 

[dachsundmom]

This is amazing....Can someone explain this to me, please?

People are willing to partake in the science to get their own baby, but to hell with everyone else.

In turn, they also seem to have all these 'issues' with what will happen to the embryos while they seem to forget that other people's embryos have been sacrificed in the name of science so people like THEM can do IVF!

OK...perhaps not everyone's embryos would be attractive to another infertile couple, but they could be useful to science.

It doesn't strike anyone else as selfish and illogical?

I agree with you 100%, but...there is nothing logical about TTC; even more so if you might possibly be looking at a one shot deal.

What you just described, to some degree, is my husband...he cares nothing for genetics, but has latched on to the leftover embryo discussion. I really don't know if what he says are his true feelings or if he's trying to keep the door open to another procedure in the future.

What I can tell you, in my opinion, is this is the same argument people have regarding things like organ donation, you don't need them, but you don't want anyone else to have them...until you're begging for a kidney, that is...

 

[dachsundmom]

OMM...trust me, I get the frustration, really I do... I also understand wanting to do everything, but feeling like you can do nothing.

Do what works for you...phuck anything else.

 

[Indigo77]

You think he may want you to do IVF again even if the first time works?

 

[dachsundmom]

You think he may want you to do IVF again if the first time works?

Or, he just wants to have that option?

Maybe a little bit of both...

 

[LLbean]

This is amazing....Can someone explain this to me, please?

People are willing to partake in the science to get their own baby, but to hell with everyone else.

In turn, they also seem to have all these 'issues' with what will happen to the embryos while they seem to forget that other people's embryos have been sacrificed in the name of science so people like THEM can do IVF!

OK...perhaps not everyone's embryos would be attractive to another infertile couple, but they could be useful to science.

It doesn't strike anyone else as selfish and illogical?

That's the hard part Indigo..it isn't just a cycle with IVF, when there's embryos its more to it. DH would rather donate to scicnce then donate to a couple with left overs. If he dies I can keep them or they'll be donated and if we divorce I keep them and they'll be donated. If I die then its his choice to destroy or donate but he cannot keep them. Regardless they'll be donated to a couple or to science. That's why the councelling is so important, everything should be discussed and agreed to before anything moves forward.

We also were ok with donating to science but did feel weird to just have a kid of ours walking around somewhere without us, you know? Sounds weird but...an organ is just an organ...not a full human being? does that make sense? Again, if we died we would rather have someone raise our children of course, but we do want them ourselves for now...not that we had any left over anyway. But that was on the many forms to sign.

 

[Indigo77]

If you donate them to science, can you specify anything in particular, or no?

 

[dachsundmom]

LL, I guess when I think in terms of an organ and what it does in the body, I have a hard time separating the two; organs are a vital part of life.

Guys, you have to keep in mind that I am adopted, I do not quite understand, on a personal level, the pull towards genetics. People say that my DD and I look just alike; I don't see it at all.

My DH looks just like his brother and sister and I find it weird; there's no variation among them.

I have spoken many times about my struggle between adoption and IVF; I still cannot resolve it totally.

 

[LLbean]

If you donate them to science, can you specify anything in particular, or no?

no I don't think so..

I guess its like this. Some people are wonderful blessings and become surrogates for people who can not carry a child full term... God bless them...I wish I could but I honestly think I would get so attached to that child it would be so difficult for me to let go...before I had my daughter maybe I would have been able to and not care, but after having a child of my own..wow, how can you not fall in love with them, you know?

Let me put it this way...I would donate eggs to my Best Gay friends...I would go to that extent (if I were single, not now that my husband also has a say) but to actually carry the child for them and then give it up to them? yeah not doable.

I understand what you are saying Dmom...I really do...I just know my husband would not do it. He wants our babies. he wants at least one of course (especially since we had to go through IVF) Would he pay for another cycle? probably not, but if we had some eggs left over I am certain he would have us try again with them

 

[readyformore]

Can we change the topic please.
I know that I somehow started the conversation, but I feel that my feelings are different from most of yours and it's making me uncomfortable.


Hey, how's the weather over in your area?
Sheesh, it's been awfully rainy over here. My husband can't even cut the grass.

 

[Indigo77]

I'm not adopted and I don't get it, either.

What's so special about my genes or my DH's genes? Nothing.

You all must think quite highly of yourselves....

 

[dachsundmom]

Oh shit!

There went the thread.

 

[Indigo77]

I do have nice hair.....when it's not humid....