Anyone TTC #1 and 30 or older?

[drjo718]

Jezika- there's no way to know how long recovery will take. Could be a couple weeks to several months. Im preparing to look weird in all my late pregnancy/early motherhood pics...as long as the baby isn't affected, I can deal with it.

 

[Angel5000]

Welcome m.cleansy! :wave: It's actually very common to ovulate later or earlier than the "average day14", that whole "perfect 28day cycle thing" is really kind of a myth as a lot of women don't actually O right in the middle of a lovely 28 day cycle. If you have a 29-30 day cycle,and are ovulating around day 16-17 then you have a nice 12 ish day LP (Luteal Phase), which is great!

Feel free to ask questions, pop and chat, etc. We're a great group. These forums are some of the best I've found!

Gagrilin Yay for AF! (what an odd thing to say on these boards )

MrsRose They are going to check estrogen and progesterone. When I go in at day 3 they are going to do an ultrasound to check the lining thickness and check estrogen for sure, if the lining doesn't appear to be getting thick enough (which could account for CPs) then I may need estrogen to thicken the lining up during the first part of the cycle (I think that's what he said), then they'll also be checking progesterone, because if the progesterone isn't high enough then i can't sustain the pregnancy afterwards.

I took a look at your chart and I think I agree with FF in terms of your temps, though you might have O'd a couple days later if that one temp wasn't so wonky and ruled out. That makes it really difficult to tell. Based on the way your temps are going this month it looks like you are gearing up to O soon though.

drjo - sorry to hear about the Bell's palsy. I actually had to look it up just now because I hadn't heard of it before Hope you recover soon!

 

[MrsRose168]

Welcome m.cleansy! :wave: It's actually very common to ovulate later or earlier than the "average day14", that whole "perfect 28day cycle thing" is really kind of a myth as a lot of women don't actually O right in the middle of a lovely 28 day cycle. If you have a 29-30 day cycle,and are ovulating around day 16-17 then you have a nice 12 ish day LP (Luteal Phase), which is great!

Feel free to ask questions, pop and chat, etc. We're a great group. These forums are some of the best I've found!

Gagrilin Yay for AF! (what an odd thing to say on these boards )

MrsRose They are going to check estrogen and progesterone. When I go in at day 3 they are going to do an ultrasound to check the lining thickness and check estrogen for sure, if the lining doesn't appear to be getting thick enough (which could account for CPs) then I may need estrogen to thicken the lining up during the first part of the cycle (I think that's what he said), then they'll also be checking progesterone, because if the progesterone isn't high enough then i can't sustain the pregnancy afterwards.

I took a look at your chart and I think I agree with FF in terms of your temps, though you might have O'd a couple days later if that one temp wasn't so wonky and ruled out. That makes it really difficult to tell. Based on the way your temps are going this month it looks like you are gearing up to O soon though.

drjo - sorry to hear about the Bell's palsy. I actually had to look it up just now because I hadn't heard of it before Hope you recover soon!

Thanks for looking at my chart! I agree O could have been one of two days so we'll just have to see. I think I'll O tomorrow or Friday if it's like last month. I really wish I O'd earlier...I'm so impatient!

 

[Gagrlinpitt]

Welcome m.cleansy! :wave: It's actually very common to ovulate later or earlier than the "average day14", that whole "perfect 28day cycle thing" is really kind of a myth as a lot of women don't actually O right in the middle of a lovely 28 day cycle. If you have a 29-30 day cycle,and are ovulating around day 16-17 then you have a nice 12 ish day LP (Luteal Phase), which is great!

Feel free to ask questions, pop and chat, etc. We're a great group. These forums are some of the best I've found!

Gagrilin Yay for AF! (what an odd thing to say on these boards )

MrsRose They are going to check estrogen and progesterone. When I go in at day 3 they are going to do an ultrasound to check the lining thickness and check estrogen for sure, if the lining doesn't appear to be getting thick enough (which could account for CPs) then I may need estrogen to thicken the lining up during the first part of the cycle (I think that's what he said), then they'll also be checking progesterone, because if the progesterone isn't high enough then i can't sustain the pregnancy afterwards.

I took a look at your chart and I think I agree with FF in terms of your temps, though you might have O'd a couple days later if that one temp wasn't so wonky and ruled out. That makes it really difficult to tell. Based on the way your temps are going this month it looks like you are gearing up to O soon though.

drjo - sorry to hear about the Bell's palsy. I actually had to look it up just now because I hadn't heard of it before Hope you recover soon!

I know right?!?

But at least I know my body is back to normal!

 

[AshNAmber]

Yay, Angel! Glad your appointment went well, and that's so awesome that they're open 7 days a week! Seems like stuff always happens over the weekends when the doctors aren't available so that is great. Are they doing any genetic carrier or chromosomal testing too?

Ash, hopefully this more laid back approach works for you. I can't remember--does your donor already have kids?

AFM, got my flashing smiley this morning--a day later than last month. I was really hoping the Pregnancy Prep would move up my O but oh well! The past couple months I've had 3 days of flashing smileys and solid on the evening of the 4th day so I'm assuming that's what will happen this time. I'm getting a bit stressed trying to plan when to BD since DH has low sperm count and EOD is supposed to be better for us. I may try for tonight, Wednesday and possibly once more on Thursday.

MrsRose I know how stressful it is to have to plan out these things.

My donor has 2 little girls actually.. It's been a big joke that if I have a boy that they will be spoiling him just as well We decided that the donor and his wife will be our child's Aunt and Uncle we are all actually really good friends I've known his DW for damn near 20 years

Kat - Yeah, they are really thorough. They know I'm ovulating and they know I can get pregnant, so he wants to figure out why I haven't sustained a pregnancy before now, and because the insurance won't pay for the full panel for the 'multiple losses testing' until I've had 3CPs or more they are going to do all these other tests that the insurance will pay for during this first cycle to rule out what they can.

Thanks for the heads up about the panty liner. They did tell me to bring one for afterwards at the fertility clinic but I wasn't sure what to expect in terms of dye and spotting and what-not. Will a liner be enough or do I need a heavier pad? I don't typically use heavy pads, just liners.

I'd also heard multiple times that CPs and MCs aren't considered abnormal until 3+. The RE told me that at his clinic they get concerned when they see 2 as close together as mine were (September and then again in November)and try to determine if there is a preventable reason before I have to go through a 3rd. I guess a lot of times it's as simple as hormones and he said that it sucks that women have to go through a 3rd or more CPs when sometimes they could have possibly prevented that with some hormones. Which makes sense. And I know that it's very possible that there was nothing except some abnormalities and it's nothing to be concerned about. I just really like that he's being thorough and wants to check everything.


DBZ - thanks for the input! I was hoping someone from here could give me their opinions on the experience. I tend to have a pretty decent pain tolerance, so I think I'll be okay. The dr did suggest that if I have a low pain tolerance they are willing to give me a script for some heavy duty pain killers (vicadin or percaset) but I don't think I'll need it. I'll just take a few tylonel beforehand. He suggests 800mg of Ibuprofen, which will be plenty I'm sure.

Star - So far I've had 3 different ladies from BnB tell me that it isn't nearly as painful as the doctor says it could be. From what I'm getting, if you have a decent pain tolerance it's fine. I think if your tubes are open it's less painful. The dr said at least one of mine has to be open or I wouldn't be ovulating and having CPs so that's a plus.

AshNAmber I've been very similar: midterms and papers (plus I have my students to plan lessons for, etc) and when I'm not doing that I'm playing video games to keep me busy.

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Angel!! You play video games?!!? That's exciting to me!! What do you play?!! I hope you do well on your midterms.. I made a 96 on my first one I have 1 more to go that has 2 parts

AFM I said I wasn't going to temp but I can't help myself. on the bright side days are just flowing by with midterms this week I didn't even realize I was 6DPO I thought I was at 5 until this morning So lets hope the rest of this week goes like this.

 

[MrsRose168]

Yay, Angel! Glad your appointment went well, and that's so awesome that they're open 7 days a week! Seems like stuff always happens over the weekends when the doctors aren't available so that is great. Are they doing any genetic carrier or chromosomal testing too?

Ash, hopefully this more laid back approach works for you. I can't remember--does your donor already have kids?

AFM, got my flashing smiley this morning--a day later than last month. I was really hoping the Pregnancy Prep would move up my O but oh well! The past couple months I've had 3 days of flashing smileys and solid on the evening of the 4th day so I'm assuming that's what will happen this time. I'm getting a bit stressed trying to plan when to BD since DH has low sperm count and EOD is supposed to be better for us. I may try for tonight, Wednesday and possibly once more on Thursday.

MrsRose I know how stressful it is to have to plan out these things.

My donor has 2 little girls actually.. It's been a big joke that if I have a boy that they will be spoiling him just as well We decided that the donor and his wife will be our child's Aunt and Uncle we are all actually really good friends I've known his DW for damn near 20 years

Kat - Yeah, they are really thorough. They know I'm ovulating and they know I can get pregnant, so he wants to figure out why I haven't sustained a pregnancy before now, and because the insurance won't pay for the full panel for the 'multiple losses testing' until I've had 3CPs or more they are going to do all these other tests that the insurance will pay for during this first cycle to rule out what they can.

Thanks for the heads up about the panty liner. They did tell me to bring one for afterwards at the fertility clinic but I wasn't sure what to expect in terms of dye and spotting and what-not. Will a liner be enough or do I need a heavier pad? I don't typically use heavy pads, just liners.

I'd also heard multiple times that CPs and MCs aren't considered abnormal until 3+. The RE told me that at his clinic they get concerned when they see 2 as close together as mine were (September and then again in November)and try to determine if there is a preventable reason before I have to go through a 3rd. I guess a lot of times it's as simple as hormones and he said that it sucks that women have to go through a 3rd or more CPs when sometimes they could have possibly prevented that with some hormones. Which makes sense. And I know that it's very possible that there was nothing except some abnormalities and it's nothing to be concerned about. I just really like that he's being thorough and wants to check everything.


DBZ - thanks for the input! I was hoping someone from here could give me their opinions on the experience. I tend to have a pretty decent pain tolerance, so I think I'll be okay. The dr did suggest that if I have a low pain tolerance they are willing to give me a script for some heavy duty pain killers (vicadin or percaset) but I don't think I'll need it. I'll just take a few tylonel beforehand. He suggests 800mg of Ibuprofen, which will be plenty I'm sure.

Star - So far I've had 3 different ladies from BnB tell me that it isn't nearly as painful as the doctor says it could be. From what I'm getting, if you have a decent pain tolerance it's fine. I think if your tubes are open it's less painful. The dr said at least one of mine has to be open or I wouldn't be ovulating and having CPs so that's a plus.

AshNAmber I've been very similar: midterms and papers (plus I have my students to plan lessons for, etc) and when I'm not doing that I'm playing video games to keep me busy.

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Angel!! You play video games?!!? That's exciting to me!! What do you play?!! I hope you do well on your midterms.. I made a 96 on my first one I have 1 more to go that has 2 parts

AFM I said I wasn't going to temp but I can't help myself. on the bright side days are just flowing by with midterms this week I didn't even realize I was 6DPO I thought I was at 5 until this morning So lets hope the rest of this week goes like this.

Ok, I thought I remembered that he had kids but wasn't 100% sure. That's so great that you have such a close relationship with them

AFM, we BD'd last night and plan to again tonight since I got my solid smiley this morning. We've had good luck catching the egg with BD'ing before O so I'd rather go for it tonight with less swimmers than wait for tomorrow and possibly miss the egg.

So I think this might be another wonky month to figure out exactly when I O’d. I woke up about 30 minutes early and my temp had gone up from the past several days. I laid in bed and took it again 20 minutes later it my temp went back down to “normal”. Then with FMU, I got an almost positive OPK and a flashing smiley at 5am. I tested again at 6:30am and got a positive OPK and solid smiley. And I still have EWCM.

I *think* my first temp is the most accurate since it was off of a solid block of sleep but I just don’t understand why it would have gone up, unless temping a bit early affected it. However with my temp up that high, it looks like I O’d yesterday but I didn’t get my positive OPKs until today. I know I won't know for sure for a couple more days, but I’m so annoyed. I hoped temping would help take all the guesswork out of pinpointing O, but now I’m more confused than ever! Any thoughts?

 

[Angel5000]

Cd7! I was suppose to start CB digi today with fmu but totally forgot so I'll start tomorrow. Should still be plenty of time to pick up my surge I think. I've been sporting the last 2 days which is really odd for me. I don't often spot AFTER AF. Then again, I usually have more than a 2 day AF too.

AshNAmber - I got very excited when I saw another girl on here mention video games too. Lol!! I like to play games with a story line - thinks like final fantasy, or kingdom hearts (haha I love Disney) and love Star Wars so will sometimes play Star Wars online when I am on the computer or Knights of the Old Repliblic. but I also have been playing this game called Gems of War lately on the Xbox because it doesn't require a lot of time like the story line games do and so I can give myself a 30 minute video game break before going back to papers. DH and I also like to play the Lego games: Lego Star Wars on ps2 or the Wii. Oh and if I get really angry or frustrated with work I'll play GTA just so I can run around and take out my aggression on video game characters.

Good job on your midterms!! 96 is awesome!!

My midterms are a little different : I'm at a quarter school so our term actually ends this month and so its more of a final but I'm in my capstone for my final project and that runs 2 terms long, so it's like a midterm. Lol. If that makes any sense. I've only got the one clas this term because the capstone is such a big thing. I have to research a topic and then do an action-research study on my classroom over a topic. Right now I'm writing the rough draft of my proposal paper. I have to include a literature review and methodology portion plus a rationale for why my project idea is useful in the educational community. Right now my paper is 15 pages and I'm probably a good 5-10 pages from being done with the lit review portion I made the mistake of thinking my term ended NEXT week not this week so I am a little behind.

 

[Angel5000]

Mrs rose- sometimes I get a temp jump on the day of the +OPK and then a dip the next day. When that happens it usually means I Od the day after the +OPK, which is pretty normal for a lot of people. It's very possible your early temp affected it but probably not by a lot of it's just 30 minutes. And the first temp is def more accurate. Once you've been awake even if you just lay there it will change your temp.

Id say you are probably gearing up and will O tomorrow or the day after. Since you can O up to 2 days after the +OPK I would watch your temps and cm and see what happens. I usually have EW for a day after O (makes sense if egg is good for 24 hours). Good luck!

 

[MrsRose168]

Mrs rose- sometimes I get a temp jump on the day of the +OPK and then a dip the next day. When that happens it usually means I Od the day after the +OPK, which is pretty normal for a lot of people. It's very possible your early temp affected it but probably not by a lot of it's just 30 minutes. And the first temp is def more accurate. Once you've been awake even if you just lay there it will change your temp.

Id say you are probably gearing up and will O tomorrow or the day after. Since you can O up to 2 days after the +OPK I would watch your temps and cm and see what happens. I usually have EW for a day after O (makes sense if egg is good for 24 hours). Good luck!

Thanks, Angel! It's good to know that it's not out of the ordinary to get a temp jump on +OPK day. I'm a horrible sleeper and am paranoid about messing up my post-O temps like last month, so I may take some Tylenol PM the next few nights in hopes of getting some good sleep!

 

[Angel5000]

I've done that before honestly for a lot of people sleeping poorly or temping at different times, as log as not crazy different, still produces CH and decent approximation. I've had really bad temps if I am up all night or am sick but if I can get 2.5 hours of sleep before my temp I'm usually ok. I often wake up around 3am and then go back to sleep at temp at 5 and for me as long as I don't get out of bed I do ok temp wise.

I'd be more concerned about looking into why you sleep so poorly. Have you tried something like lavender oil? I use lavender oil in a diffuser to help me sleep sometimes. Also we changed our mattress and it made a world of difference in my sleeping

 

[star_e]

hi all just catching up. took my last prometrium pill today and feel anxious about findinf out if it actually works to bring on AF. last cycle i took Provera and I could feel it working. By the time it was the day of the last pill I knew that as soon as I finished taking it I would get AF soon. this time around since I'm doing Prometrium instead of Provera just because its a different doctor who prescribed it and she said it had less side effects i thought why not try it, I'm uncertain as to whether or not it will actually work since I'm experiencing none of the symptoms as last time.

as far as sleep goes, any suggestions on how to get better sleep are very much appreciated. I have significant problems sleeping. And before beginning my TTC journey, I took Ambien several times a week. ever since starting the journey I've really tried to wean myself off of it and I was doing really well for a while and then I started to get really busy and when that happens I feel very inclined to take it. i have been doing tylenol pm and have weened myself from the ambien dependency but not entirely. when i do take it, I take half of what one dose is and there were a few weeks where i didnt take it at all. but last Night I hardly even slept and I'm exhausted today.

 

[DBZ34]

Star - Have you tried melatonin? I know a few people who take it to help them sleep. But that's the only real suggestion I've got. Hope AF shows soon!

Angel - A little late but I agree with Kat. A liner or a thin pad (if you like more protection) is probably all you'll need. They gave me a steamboat of a pad after my HSG...like it made me three inches taller while sitting down. But it wasn't really necessary. Good luck with the testing! I'm glad they're doing something for you now.


Welcome to the new ladies!

 

[Angel5000]

Star - I like to use natural things as often as possible to help me sleep. I use essential oils: lavender oil (buy the good stuff, not just the cheap version you can find in a grocery store) in a humidifer/diffuser by my bed helps me. I also make a lotion/oil that I sometimes put on at night from coconut oil and some lavender oil and it helps me to relax and sleep better. Melatonin is also a good suggestion, it's at least the same thing that your body secretes to help you sleep

Angel - A little late but I agree with Kat. A liner or a thin pad (if you like more protection) is probably all you'll need. They gave me a steamboat of a pad after my HSG...like it made me three inches taller while sitting down.

OMG! That sentence made my day!

Thanks for the info! I'll bring along a thin pad. I'm not a fan of the big thick ones, so uncomfortable!

 

[MrsRose168]

I've done that before honestly for a lot of people sleeping poorly or temping at different times, as log as not crazy different, still produces CH and decent approximation. I've had really bad temps if I am up all night or am sick but if I can get 2.5 hours of sleep before my temp I'm usually ok. I often wake up around 3am and then go back to sleep at temp at 5 and for me as long as I don't get out of bed I do ok temp wise.

I'd be more concerned about looking into why you sleep so poorly. Have you tried something like lavender oil? I use lavender oil in a diffuser to help me sleep sometimes. Also we changed our mattress and it made a world of difference in my sleeping

Unfortunately I've always had sleeping problems and I've tried everything I can think of...lavender EO, new mattress, no electronics before bed, sleeping pills, melatonin, etc. and I've even done a sleep clinic. I've weaned off the medications so I'm just thankful that I can sleep at all without taking anything. It comes in phases, and right now is just a bad phase.

 

[Angel5000]

Sorry to hear that MrsRose. That sounds awful. Poor sleeping is one do my pet peeves. I have to get sleep or I'm a horrible grouch.

 

[MrsRose168]

My chart has been confusing me the last few days, but I *think* I O'd yesterday. I'm really curious what my temp will look like tomorrow. On to the next round of waiting!

Angel, I just stalked your chart. Looks like you had a big temp increase pretty early this month. What do you make of that?!

 

[Angel5000]

MrsRose - looking good. Is day you prob Od too.

It sure why I had that spike but it's pretty common for me to have weird spiked early in so I don't make much of it anymore. Lol.

 

[MrsRose168]

MrsRose - looking good. Is day you prob Od too.

It sure why I had that spike but it's pretty common for me to have weird spiked early in so I don't make much of it anymore. Lol.

haha! It's great you've been temping so long so you know what's normal. Wish I would have started earlier...just didn't know any better!

 

[star_e]

Star - Have you tried melatonin? I know a few people who take it to help them sleep. But that's the only real suggestion I've got. Hope AF shows soon!

Angel - A little late but I agree with Kat. A liner or a thin pad (if you like more protection) is probably all you'll need. They gave me a steamboat of a pad after my HSG...like it made me three inches taller while sitting down. But it wasn't really necessary. Good luck with the testing! I'm glad they're doing something for you now.


Welcome to the new ladies!

i have not tried melatonin. i will ask my doc about it. i need something. this lack of sleep is so frustrating and i took ambien again b/c i was so tired. i'll try to ween myself off it again. uggggg.

 

[star_e]

Star - I like to use natural things as often as possible to help me sleep. I use essential oils: lavender oil (buy the good stuff, not just the cheap version you can find in a grocery store) in a humidifer/diffuser by my bed helps me. I also make a lotion/oil that I sometimes put on at night from coconut oil and some lavender oil and it helps me to relax and sleep better. Melatonin is also a good suggestion, it's at least the same thing that your body secretes to help you sleep

Angel - A little late but I agree with Kat. A liner or a thin pad (if you like more protection) is probably all you'll need. They gave me a steamboat of a pad after my HSG...like it made me three inches taller while sitting down.

OMG! That sentence made my day!

Thanks for the info! I'll bring along a thin pad. I'm not a fan of the big thick ones, so uncomfortable!

thank you for the lavender suggestion. i'll look into this as well. how much oil do you put with the coconut oil?