Anyone TTC #1 and 30 or older?

[Hollynesss]

Pihabella- I'm also on CD10 and starting OPKs today! I'm hoping for a short cycle as well. My cycles were spot on 30 days, no exceptions, for five years. Then when we started TTC they went all haywire I missed a period in March, June, and September. Its VERY frustrating! I have no idea why they suddenly went wacko. Yay for being cycle buddies!!

Kat- My mother definitely uses her illness as an excuse to be nasty sometimes, and then just brushes it off because she's ill and "can't help it." Most of the time its genuine, but she can really unleash the beast when she wants to because she has an excuse to hide behind. It sounds like your mom is much the same. Is your mom on any meds? My mom was taking something that made her completely normal....no mood swings, always pleasant, never angry...but she had to quit taking it because it was severely damaging her liver. She has a lot more bad days these days, and it also scares me to think of her being around my baby/ies, but I had planned on moving her in with us to be our babysitter since she is disabled and cannot work. (She also has myelodysplastic syndrome and is undergoing chemo) I definitely feel for you!

Zen- I have been temping for about two years, so I've gotten pretty good at it! I know my normal temperature ranges really well, so it is a very accurate way for me to know if I have ovulated or not. My ranges are a little farther apart than MJ's, (96.4-96.8 pre-O and 97.4 and above post-O), but you will get to know your own "normal" after doing it for a few cycles. MJ is right, your temp should go up the day after O, so your next one should be up if you O'd. It can be confusing, but it is addicting after a while!

Bluebird- Glad that you will be able to enjoy your vacation!!

 

[MJsBabyShaw]

Hey Holly, just curious why you have been temping for 2 years but only TTC for the last 5 months? Was there a reason for temping for year and a half before ttc? Before I started TTC I used OPKs for 2 cycles just to see if I was ovulating and to get to know my cycles post-birth control. Just curious if you were doing something similar before you actually started ttc?

 

[zen108]

MJ - CD17 temp still did not rise. Remains at 96.8 from CD15-CD17.

Either my thermometer is faulty or I truly did not ovulate. Feeling a bit sad now, coz I have regular 28-33 days period. If it's true that I really didn't ovulate, then that explains why I can't conceive after trying for more than a year.

Holly - yeah, maybe i hv to temp few cycles to know my body better.

On a positive note, glad to know my problem.

 

[Praying4BB]

RANT WARNING: I am only 11 DPO (FF says 10) and I've started spotting! Just like the other cycles, it's started about 3-4 days before AF is due. Gosh darnit!! Clomid was supposed to help fix this LP bleeding!

They took my progesterone levels at the RE last Tuesday and the RE said they were good. My post-O temps have also been higher than ever this cycle. I am so confused.

 

[MJsBabyShaw]

RANT WARNING: I am only 11 DPO (FF says 10) and I've started spotting! Just like the other cycles, it's started about 3-4 days before AF is due. Gosh darnit!! Clomid was supposed to help fix this LP bleeding!

They took my progesterone levels at the RE last Tuesday and the RE said they were good. My post-O temps have also been higher than ever this cycle. I am so confused.

Praying - have you tested? Your spotting could be implantation bleeding...I hate to even say that because it's usually just false hope, and I'm a realist. But your temps look just too good....just test tomorrow to see, okay?

 

[MJsBabyShaw]

MJ - CD17 temp still did not rise. Remains at 96.8 from CD15-CD17.

Either my thermometer is faulty or I truly did not ovulate. Feeling a bit sad now, coz I have regular 28-33 days period. If it's true that I really didn't ovulate, then that explains why I can't conceive after trying for more than a year.

Holly - yeah, maybe i hv to temp few cycles to know my body better.

On a positive note, glad to know my problem.

Zen - are you using a Basal Body Thermometer? They are like $8 at Wal-mart or Target. But yeah, 96.8 seems like you might not have ovulated...YET. If you are getting regular periods, chances are good that you are ovulating. Also, sometime people have a hard time reading OPK's correctly. If you are using the internet cheapies, the test line needs to be really dark - as dark as or darker than the control line. It's possible that you (1) didn't really get your positive OPK yet (2) DID get a +OPK but that surge didn't result in ovulation and you will have a second surge later in your cycle or (3) you did get a +OPK but it's just taking a little longer for you to drop that egg.

Whenever I get stressed out my ovulation delays by like a whole WEEK. It's super frustrating. I'm not telling you just relax (because that's the most annoying advice ever), but try your best not to worry because stress really does have an impact on our hormones which can create issues with our cycles.

So....deep breath...tell yourself "I will ovulate...I will ovulate...I will ovulate".

 

[Praying4BB]

Praying - have you tested? Your spotting could be implantation bleeding...I hate to even say that because it's usually just false hope, and I'm a realist. But your temps look just too good....just test tomorrow to see, okay?

I haven't... I haven't tested since my first cycle when I got what I thought was IB at 10 dpo, lol. I was planning to just wait and see if AF showed since I didn't have a lot of hope for this cycle. I don't have any tests here, maybe if the spotting stops I will go get some tomorrow first thing! Thanks for the hope MJ, even if it doesn't turn out to be a BFP, it's fun to hold onto some hope for a few more hours

 

[Hollynesss]

Hey Holly, just curious why you have been temping for 2 years but only TTC for the last 5 months? Was there a reason for temping for year and a half before ttc? Before I started TTC I used OPKs for 2 cycles just to see if I was ovulating and to get to know my cycles post-birth control. Just curious if you were doing something similar before you actually started ttc?

There is a section on BnB called Waiting to Try. It's where girls hang out when they want to start trying soon but aren't quite ready. I joined this forum about a year before we were ready to TTC (we got delayed for reasons I won't get into here). I learned so much about TTC in the WTT forum, including about temping, and I wanted to try it. I kept up with it until we were ready to try.

 

[crystlmcd]

zen - are you temping orally? just wanted to throw this out there because it appears it was my problem - if you're temping orally and you sleep with your mouth open, your temps will probably be erratic. I just started temping last cycle and my temp didn't go up after O but then found out that sleeping with your mouth open screws up your temps. So now I'm trying to temp vaginally this cycle. My temp is way higher than it was when I was temping orally but I'm just going to temp the whole cycle and see if my chart ends up somewhat normal.

 

[zen108]

RANT WARNING: I am only 11 DPO (FF says 10) and I've started spotting! Just like the other cycles, it's started about 3-4 days before AF is due. Gosh darnit!! Clomid was supposed to help fix this LP bleeding!

They took my progesterone levels at the RE last Tuesday and the RE said they were good. My post-O temps have also been higher than ever this cycle. I am so confused.

It might be implantation bleeding. Hang in there!

 

[zen108]

zen - are you temping orally? just wanted to throw this out there because it appears it was my problem - if you're temping orally and you sleep with your mouth open, your temps will probably be erratic. I just started temping last cycle and my temp didn't go up after O but then found out that sleeping with your mouth open screws up your temps. So now I'm trying to temp vaginally this cycle. My temp is way higher than it was when I was temping orally but I'm just going to temp the whole cycle and see if my chart ends up somewhat normal.

Thanks cryst. I was having nose blockages for few days. Might be sleeping with my mouth open. Yes, temping orally. So if that's true, then I will try vaginally next cycle.

 

[zen108]

MJ - am using a normal digital thermometer. My OPK was really dark. Anyway, if what cryst said is true abt sleeping with mouth open can mess my temps, then that might just explains it. I snores and was having nose blocks for the past few days.

 

[zen108]

CD18 and spotted big jump in temperature, 97.7. Relieved!

 

[Hollynesss]

Hooray, Zen!!

 

[MJsBabyShaw]

CD18 and spotted big jump in temperature, 97.7. Relieved!

NICE, Zen!! Hoping to see a in two weeks!!

You must just take a little longer to go from your lh surge to ovulation. So glad that your cycle is on track!

 

[zen108]

Thanks ladies for your advices and support. FX for a BFP for all of us!

 

[KatO79]

Gosh, that sounds tough for everyone involved. At the moment, I think the best way to deal with her is to avoid being pushed to confrontation. Just nod politely although you know you're not going to listen to her "advice". I hope you do manage to share some good moments with her, but otherwise, it would be best for you to avoid the drama she creates and keep your distance. Maybe she doesn't realise she's wrong, and you are still making efforts, but as you said, you'll have to re-evaluate the situation at some point if she continues being so toxic.

Sorry that you have to deal with this on top of all the stress related to TTC

Thanks Fleur

I do try to avoid confrontation but she seems to seek it out herself. It doesn't seem to matter how politely I word things, if she's looking for a fight, she'll just go on a rampage. When she starts screaming though I just hang up because 1) I'm not in the mood for hearing her evil abuse and 2) she's impossible to talk to in that mood anyway It's haredr over the phone becuase it requires a verbal answer when she starts spouting her "wisdom". The woman unfortunately thrives on creating drama Her mental illness makes her believe she's never wrong, hence the problem with discussing things with her. She NEVER apologizes. I've tried to get her to admit it when she's gone way over the line but she refuses to do so.

Kat- My mother definitely uses her illness as an excuse to be nasty sometimes, and then just brushes it off because she's ill and "can't help it." Most of the time its genuine, but she can really unleash the beast when she wants to because she has an excuse to hide behind. It sounds like your mom is much the same. Is your mom on any meds? My mom was taking something that made her completely normal....no mood swings, always pleasant, never angry...but she had to quit taking it because it was severely damaging her liver. She has a lot more bad days these days, and it also scares me to think of her being around my baby/ies, but I had planned on moving her in with us to be our babysitter since she is disabled and cannot work. (She also has myelodysplastic syndrome and is undergoing chemo) I definitely feel for you!

My mom isn't on any meds as she refuses to see a psychiatrist because, in her words "There is NOTHING WRONG WITH (HER)." She has never been officially diagnosed because of her refusal to seek help. I've based the diagnosis on what I've read about Narcissistic Personality Disorder and she fits in perfectly with her behaviour and the way she treats people. I don't think meds help in this case because the disease has something to do with how her mind developed while being raised by a narcissistic mother. I don't think it can be medicated against and therapy would be pointless when she fails to acknowledge that she does anything wrong In her eyes, the way she treats me is absolutely normal So the only choice in dealing with a parent who has this mental illness is either go low contact or no contact and I may be forced to do the latter if she keeps on saying cruel things, especially if it's in front of my child or if she directs her nasty comments to my child.

My mother has never been a normal mother. When other women talk about all the fun, cozy moments that they have shared with their mother like learning how to use make-up or being read to, I'm just lost. Despite the fact she was a stay at home parent, she practically ignored me. I played by myself, she could nøt be bothered to play with me. The only one who ever took me out for fun afternoon at the movies or the mall was my older brother (he's a bit over 20 years older than me). My dad worked a lot so he didn't have much time either although he was by far the most attentive parent. She has "mothered" all her children in the same fashion. The only lucky one was my half-sister who had almost zero contact with her and was fortunate enought o have a loving father and loving stepmother, a stepmother who I'm sure was more motherly and loving than the woman who is our biological mother. My mother is much too self-absorbed to be a good mother, her needs ALWAYS come first and she has cast me in the role to be her mother because she's mentally a toddler (imagine being raised by a 5-6 year old kid and that's how my mother acted like when she raised me, she still does).

In my case I absolutely refuse to let her move in with us as she'd be an absolute nightmare. I remember how she tormented me when I lived with her and I had no escape. At least now I can just walk away or hang up on her when she starts hurling abusive words at me. I refuse to put my furture child through what I went through! She'll be going to a retirement home or something similar.

Sorry to hear about your mom Hollynesss, that sounds like a tough situation

 

[pihabella]

Cool glad to see someone else at the same stage as me Hollyness! Still new to using OPKs. I have been trying to take them at about 4pm each day but its getting really hot here now and I have been needing to drink quite a bit of fluid, so I hope that doesn't muck things up with them too much. Not temping as I often have disrupted sleep and would never remember to take the reading each morning (not a morning person and usually pretty groggy until I have a cup of tea in me!). Anyway, feeling good today and had some stretchy CM today, not quite EWCM, so hope I am getting close to OV time, although the OPKs so far have been negative with only very faint lines. Time will tell I guess!

 

[Hollynesss]

I take mine late afternoon as well. Usually as long as your urine isn't super diluted to the point of being colorless then there is enough LH present to give a nice positive.

 

[pihabella]

Do the intensity of the test lines usually get darker closer to LH surge or just suddenly super positive one day?