Anyone TTC #1 and 30 or older?

By the way, have you also been ordering Conceive Plus and Softcups from outside Denmark? I haven't found a shop here that has them so I've been ordering Conceive Plus (plus the Softcups) off of Ebay:nope:

I order them from Amazon.co.uk Speedy and reliable delivery, in my experience.


Ok thanks, I'll have to see if the prices are cheaper than on Ebay.co.uk:-k

It's weird because I can order Preseed in Denmark, don't know why they don't sell Conceive Plus on any Danish sites:shrug:
 
Congrats praying. A lady at my work announced a pregnancy -or the dad did today. She is in her late 30's not trying not preventing if I understood correctly. Not married and works under the dad and the dad's ex wife. They announced its a boy today. I have to admit I am a bit ambivalent about the announcement. On one hand I am a bit jealous of both praying and this lady cause I have been trying since June and its now cycle 7 which sucks and it seems like I cant catch the egg. But on the other she is closer to 40 than 30 and if she were to get pregnant it is probably better for her to have it now than later because of all the possible issues related to having babies later in life. That said, I don't really envy her because I would not want to be in that situation and I think the more I think about it, I firmly believe that I will be next because there will inevitably be a string of BFPs from now through Valentines Day and I know I will be one of them. I just needed to rant because its not fair that many of us could try and a couple could get it without trying easily....

Praying- how long did it take you to get your BFP if you don't mind me asking????
 
Thanks so much ladies! We are praying for a sticky bean too!

Cutestuff- We've been TTC since June. This was my second round of Clomid, first round of progesterone supplements. Even with the Clomid, I ovulated late, around CD 22/23 so I think the progesterone may have been the key.

Fleur- I'm 13/14 DPO and my HCG levels were 179 today. Dr. thinks that's good and I'll go back on Friday to see if they double. I wrapped up the positive pregnancy test like a Christmas present and gave it to DH when he got home from work! He was shocked for sure, we haven't talked much about TTC this cycle and I don't think he was keeping track of what day it was.

I am a little nervous because we leave for Hawai'i on Saturday for two weeks. That's quite a bit of flying and we had a two-night overnight trek planned. I guess I can see how Friday's results turn out and consult the doc on if we should still try to do it. I've read about plenty of women who've hiked and run marathons and such during their pregnancies, but I don't want to risk anything at this point!
 
Hi! Mind if I join your group? I turned 30 in September and we've been TTC #1 since July. With my very long cycles (last one was 51 days), this is only our 4th cycle. I think I O'd yesterday morning based on CM and temp drop, but OPKs have been negative. I've been trying Vitex this month. I think it helped finally bring on AF last month when it wouldn't come, and if I O'd yesterday then that's 4 days earlier than last month. It's my LP that drags on for 3-4 weeks, which seems like maybe I wasn't actually ovulating. This week though, we haven't been BD every day. Only every other day but haven't been in the mood. No matter what, we will BD today. I hope I didn't mess up this cycle!

Anyway, I think I'm starting my TWW and waiting is always a little easier with support from ladies who know what I'm going through :).

Cutestuff - it's good to see you here! Missed you!
 
It's all waiting! Waiting to O, TWW, waiting for doctors! lol Fingers are crossed for more Christmas BFP!!!!
 
Coworker announced that she is not coming back and going to stay home with her new baby....it totally screws us over....and I am sooo jealous! Feeling a little grumpy at the moment lol
 
Coworker announced that she is not coming back and going to stay home with her new baby....it totally screws us over....and I am sooo jealous! Feeling a little grumpy at the moment lol


How much notice is she giving? Is there time to find a new person to take over her position?

I've always said I'd preferably either like to be a stay at home mother or perhaps have a part-time job so I can spend time with my child, if possible. I'd only have a full-time job if it was absolutely necessary for our economy and luckily, it's not:) Looks like life has chosen for me though and I'll be a stay at home mom :flower:

I think it's great if a woman can and wants to be a stay at home mom. I think it's beneficial to the children and they did a research here where they found that children who had stay at home mothers had better language skills (spoken and spelling/grammer) compared to children who's mothers work full-time for many, many hours.

In Denmark, I don't think I'd want my child to be mainly raised by institutions. I think unfortunately lots of kids here are raised by institutions because the parents work too much (and don't have the energy/desire to raise their kids the few hours they have them) and it's creating kids that are spoiled and behave horribly.
 
I think it's great if a woman can and wants to be a stay at home mom. I think it's beneficial to the children and they did a research here where they found that children who had stay at home mothers had better language skills (spoken and spelling/grammer) compared to children who's mothers work full-time for many, many hours.

In Denmark, I don't think I'd want my child to be mainly raised by institutions. I think unfortunately lots of kids here are raised by institutions because the parents work too much (and don't have the energy/desire to raise their kids the few hours they have them) and it's creating kids that are spoiled and behave horribly.

I agree with you! In many school and day care settings, instructors aren't allowed to discipline children at ALL (I don't mean physical punishment, I mean things like no time outs, no toys taken away, no scolding, no lectures.. lol), and there are a lot of kids who take that to mean that they can do ANYTHING they please.

I used to work as a teaching assistant for elementary students who had been expelled from traditional school settings. Those children, who received no care or attention at home, had acted out at school and gotten themselves expelled... Only to end up in a facility that was, in many ways, BETTER than the public school they'd attended in the first place. They were all TERRIBLE when it came to behavior. They swore like little sailors, hit each other, screamed, refused to stay in their seats, vandalized, stole from one another (and the staff)... and my classroom was for kids about 8 years old (third grade or thereabouts).

I really think that being able to spend more time with your children is far far better than plopping the child into an over-crowded daycare setting or worse, leaving him/her home alone.

I'm not saying no one should have a job, or that you're a bad parent if you work full time and leave your kid at a daycare. For some people, that has to be done. Bills need to be paid! Groceries cost money!

But if you follow up your long day by coming home and telling your child you're too tired to play or spend time with them, and you spend what little time you have with your child ignoring them, that is the real issue.

And then there's the daycare fees!

Out here in California, USA, it's more expensive to send a child to daycare than it is to be a stay at home mom. If I worked 40hrs a week in my old retail management position, I wouldn't have made enough money even BEFORE income taxes to cover the cost of sending my child to a daycare, let alone trying to pay for it when the government has taken 1/3 of my monthly wages. My husband would have had to shell out the extra cash to cover the daycare fees, which would basically mean I'd be working my butt off for no real reason, spending less time with my child, and we'd be LOSING money instead of gaining any.

Staying home with my child (when I have one) is actually going to wind up saving us money, so there's that argument, too. If you look at your local daycare prices, and you factor in the cost of transportation, daycare fees (sometimes these places start charging you extra money if you're even 10mins late for pick-up!), and whether or not the daycare's hours match your work schedule, you might find that staying home is the better option.

One of the places I looked up a while back charges something like $2,000 for a two week daycare period. That's $4,000 a month! At the time, I only made $2,800 a month after income tax. There's no way that would ever have worked out. Haha
 
She hasn't yet told our boss and we close after today until Jan....so she will essentially give one to two hour notice. :(

I can totally agree on the desire to stay at home!
 
It is definitely insane how expensive daycare is. I see both sides of it, though. When you stop to think about what a vitally important job it is to take care of your child/ren 8-9 hours/day then it becomes understandable why places charge so much. Even if you paid that person minimum wage, that would still be nearly $1200/month, and really I think that someone who is feeding, bathing, playing with and teaching my child all day long deserves more than minimum wage. But it is a tremendous burden for families who need both parents to work in order to keep food on the table and a roof over their heads. People shouldn't feel discouraged from having children if they can't afford day care, its against nature. I remember when I was growing up, home daycares were very popular, and they were able to charge far less than daycare facilities due to the convenience of being in home. You don't really see those much these days, do you?

I absolutely would stay home if I could! When the kids were a little older I would go back to work part time, but I would love to stay home when they are young. I also really feel that you can't really know what you'll do until baby is born and you are in the situation. I've known plenty of girls on here who decided not to go back to work after maternity leave because they learned that they just couldn't leave baby. Everyone is different, and a lot of the time women just don't have that luxury.
 
I totally appreciate both sides of the coin. I am a child psychologist so am very familiar with the research in this area, and in this country (US) it hasn't held up that stay-at-home children perform better either scholastically or emotionally than children in day-cares, sitter settings, or preschoools. What the evidence DOES support though is that children need INTERACTIVE attention, predictable routines, and lots of language exposure. If a child is stuck in a crappy day care where they are mostly ignored, then their language skills and social-emotional development really suffers. This same result happens if they are home with mom all day and aren't getting interactive play and communication all throughout their day. So it truly doesn't matter whether it's a home setting or day care setting, what matters is the quality of the interaction children receive, as you would probably expect.


But holy crap, I totally agree about the cost of child care! Crazy! I'm not looking forward to that, but I will certainly be a working mother, although depending on how I feel I may need to adjust my schedule to be home more days. We'll see. I guess you never know how you'll feel until you're there. I don't think either choice is simple or easy.

There are excellent learning-based daycares and preschools that are amazing, even have video monitoring and open drop ins so you can check on your child any time with notice. I like that idea. Our neighborhood also has a "nanny share" program, where a few different families split a nanny's costs. That's kind of a cool thought too. :)
 
dede3124: Ok that's pretty uncool. She should've given more notice so they can reach to replace her. How far along is she?

Wow daycare sounds expensive:wacko: I think it's pretty expensive here as well but not sure of the prices as I haven't looked into it:shrug:

The problem is here most people don't seem to have the time/energy to spend time with their children when they've picked them up from school. Which leads to these poor kids growing up to be selfish, horrible individuals because to make up for lack of attention, they are given expensive toys. These kids also grow up with low self-esteem issues. I've even heard of parents trying to go on vacations without their children:saywhat: It's crazy. I think people here are trying too hard to earn more and more money so they can afford a big house, 2 expensive cars, expensive vacations and so they can spoil their ignored children with material stuff to make up for lack of attention or ability to raise them properly. It's really sad:nope:

My SIL in the US actually quit her teaching job (she teaches 3rd graders)as she planned on being a stay at home mom for the first 3-4 years of my niece's life. My niece is now 7 and my SIL is still a stay at home mom. So I guess she decided it was best for their daughter and my brother and her didn't really need the money she was earning:shrug: She talks ocasionally about starting to work again but it has yet to happen and I doubt she'll do it as she's close to her mid-50's now.

My MIL was also a stay at home mom while DH and his 2 brothers were small which has resulted in 3 wonderful, kind men (although DH's big brother could've used a bit more of a spine with the wife he had):flower:

I'll definitely be stay at home mom for the first few years and see when it's best for my child to try and get a volunteer job at an animal shelter so I get out once in a while (like 3-4 days a week) :thumbup:
 
My MIL went back to school at 50, got her teaching credentials in a couple of years and now teaches Special Education at a local elementary school. She had always wanted to be a teacher but couldn't go to school while being single mom to 3 kids and paying for THEIR schooling. Now that they're all adults, she was able to follow her dream!

I think age is all in your head! haha
 
My MIL went back to school at 50, got her teaching credentials in a couple of years and now teaches Special Education at a local elementary school. She had always wanted to be a teacher but couldn't go to school while being single mom to 3 kids and paying for THEIR schooling. Now that they're all adults, she was able to follow her dream!

I think age is all in your head! haha


Wow that would so not work in Denmark:wacko: Not many that age go back to school here as they're unlikely to find a job unless it's in an area where they are really desperate to find people. Lots of people that age or older have a hard time finding jobs here. Companies aren't much for hiring someone for such a "short" time period before they have to retire.

Don't know if being unemployed for 7 years is as big a disadvantage in the US as it is here. Probably not. Here they already start ignoring you after 1 year of unemployment and once you hit 2 years, you can forget about getting a job:nope:
 
I guess it's because it was difficult for the school to find teachers willing to work with disabled students? It wasn't my MIL's dream to teach any particular grade or skillset, just to work with elementary school students. And that she was willing to work with the Special Education kids probably made her a very valuable commodity.

Age of retirement here has gone way up, too, because most folk never made enough money to support themselves on disability, social security funds, etc. A lot of them end up working well into their 60s and sometimes beyond that. I had a coworker in my retail job that was 70-something. Can you imagine? Being in your 70s and being forced to work part time as a sales person in an office supply store? It's a shame.

So, I suppose looking at it that way, my MIL has a good 15 years of teaching in her before she'll retire. :shock:
 
You're never too old to learn something new! And hey, if a person does have to work well into their 60s, might as well be doing something that they enjoy and have always wanted to do. Its a shame that people have to work so late into life just to get by, but nothing wrong with making the best of it. Good for your MIL! :thumbup:
 
I guess it's because it was difficult for the school to find teachers willing to work with disabled students? It wasn't my MIL's dream to teach any particular grade or skillset, just to work with elementary school students. And that she was willing to work with the Special Education kids probably made her a very valuable commodity.

Age of retirement here has gone way up, too, because most folk never made enough money to support themselves on disability, social security funds, etc. A lot of them end up working well into their 60s and sometimes beyond that. I had a coworker in my retail job that was 70-something. Can you imagine? Being in your 70s and being forced to work part time as a sales person in an office supply store? It's a shame.

So, I suppose looking at it that way, my MIL has a good 15 years of teaching in her before she'll retire. :shock:


Well here she probably wouldn't of gotten a job anyway since there's so much competition for jobs here and they always seem to be able to find younger people or more experienced people. Just look at me, of all the hundreds and hundreds of jobs I applied to, they always found someone more experienced and went with them:cry: They're not much for hiring older people because they're just going to retire in 15-20 years.

I think many people here work until around 70 as well, most of them because they don't want to retire:dohh: This is creating a problem in that there aren't enough jobs for the young finishing college because the older set don't want to retire so it creates fewer job openings:nope: Hence the huge competition when a job becomes available. I don't think I was competing with fewer than 80-90 people for each job I applied to and most of the time, there were more than that. Some of these academic jobs there are maybe 3-400 people you're competeting against. Working at supermarkets and the like in the meantime aren't an option while your job hunting if you have an academic degree since supermarkets get about 10x the applicants they need and have openly said the first people they sort out? Anyone with any kind of degree:dohh:

I think it was hard for me because being a woman in your fertile years and childless the companies were afraid I'd announce a pregnancy within a few months and didn't want to have to pay me maternity leave plus find a replacement for the 1 year off most new mothers take. I read a story about a woman who worked for 3½-4 years at a company, got pregnant and the boss and her coworkers got mad. She has the baby, takes her 1 year leave and about 2 months after she got back they fired her. I've also heard about a woman with a small 2 year old that has issues getting a job because the companies were worried about if her child got sick so they used the excuse that the job isn't "family friendly". And don't get me started on the whole "you need connections to get an academic job here" :grr:

Sorry, had to rant about the insane job market here:haha:

AFM TTC-wise: So I got the package from the Danish company DH ordered the Preseed from and guess what? The sent only the free HPT, no Preseed :cry: I called DH right away as he ordered it and needs to contact them today. On the bright side, my Conceive Plus came so no big worries. But we definitely need to get that Preseed as we've payed for it :nope:
 

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