Beth30* 2.7 HCG Last Thursday*Results are in for HCG

[TTC_Ob]

I know they can't refuse service, but I'd like to pay it upfront to keep the bill down some. And last month I did get some very faint positives, but nothing like this month, and they faded away just before I got my period two days early.... as you can see, the one's this month haven't been fading, and I am late for my period....ALSO my blood test last month 1st was 2.7 and the second two days later was 2.7... This time it went up... and I am still getting positives... after the second blood test last month, the lines faded like I said before.

I really hope you go to the ER tomorrow and get some answers... and make sure you are ok! please keep us posted.

 

[PrayinForBaby]

they won't do an ultrasound... they wouldn't do it the last time I m/c... they make me pee in a cup, and do quantitative, but if you have private insurance they make you pay your copayment, and I don't have 250 to give them....

just reading this...i live in cabell county...cabell huntington hospital does full work ups..they even do early result blood tests for $10 at their lab outpatient. you go to the lab, tell them you need the test, they draw your blood and you wait 2 hrs to call back to confirm. but even their er, if u go in and have symptoms of pregnancy, pains, or anything weird going on, they automatically make sure your pregnancy is okay before further checking you out. and even WITH private insurance you dont pay your co-pay out of pocket there. its billed to you.

 

[amommy]

I feel like it is more kind to women to be honest about it and still be sympathetic and understanding than to give them false hope and let them crash harder in the end. She was confused by what was going on and there was simply a suggestion as to what it could be. Nobody wants to have bad news, and nobody wants anything but the best for Beth, but because they care maybe they felt like the kinder thing to do would be to give a possible explanation so that if it turned out to be the case (God forbid) it wouldn't come as such a shock. It can just be very upsetting to see woman after woman encourage someone that everything is perfect, or they have a for sure positive test, and they get their hopes up becuase everyone seems to share the same positive opinion. Then if bad news comes later, they are more heartbroken because everyone had them convinced there was nothing wrong. Again, I'm not saying that there is something wrong for Beth, it could go the completely oppostie direction and I hope it does. It's just always better to be honest

I dont think there is a woman on here who enjoys or believes in FALSE hope, but to give a medical opinion as a lay person isn't fair.. speculating on lines or no lines, or pink or grey, those are subjective things that an arm chair expert can debate about.. Honesty is great, I agree, brutal honesty, while it is honest there is a thing called tact as well.. When someone is going through so much, they are already being devils advocate, the negative person.. Look Beth even said she thought she was being punished.. SO AT THAT TIME its best to be honest/negative/realistic? Or is it better to offer words of encouragements, maybe even revisit the what-if's.. we all do it, and most of us do the negative what-ifs, not the positive ones..

Human beings in general tend to be rather pessimistic in nature, and dont think positively.. I am all for a more positive approach.. Besides she already has the medical community giving her the doom and gloom report.. I don't feel the need to add to that!

 

[TTC_Ob]

while I understand what youre saying here, I dont understand what I did to deserve this or where I was rude or without tact? I feel I have been nothing but helpful in Beths time of need... my way might be different then yours and Im not critisizing you- why do you feel you need to critisize me? Maybe its best to answer that off of Beths thread because all Im trying to do on this thread is help... If you want to make it personal, please send me a personal message... oh and by the way- Im not a lay person, I am a medical doctor- an OB/GYN at that... I really dont understand... but I am sorry I have offended you or anyone else I have offended.

I feel like it is more kind to women to be honest about it and still be sympathetic and understanding than to give them false hope and let them crash harder in the end. She was confused by what was going on and there was simply a suggestion as to what it could be. Nobody wants to have bad news, and nobody wants anything but the best for Beth, but because they care maybe they felt like the kinder thing to do would be to give a possible explanation so that if it turned out to be the case (God forbid) it wouldn't come as such a shock. It can just be very upsetting to see woman after woman encourage someone that everything is perfect, or they have a for sure positive test, and they get their hopes up becuase everyone seems to share the same positive opinion. Then if bad news comes later, they are more heartbroken because everyone had them convinced there was nothing wrong. Again, I'm not saying that there is something wrong for Beth, it could go the completely oppostie direction and I hope it does. It's just always better to be honest

I dont think there is a woman on here who enjoys or believes in FALSE hope, but to give a medical opinion as a lay person isn't fair.. speculating on lines or no lines, or pink or grey, those are subjective things that an arm chair expert can debate about.. Honesty is great, I agree, brutal honesty, while it is honest there is a thing called tact as well.. When someone is going through so much, they are already being devils advocate, the negative person.. Look Beth even said she thought she was being punished.. SO AT THAT TIME its best to be honest/negative/realistic? Or is it better to offer words of encouragements, maybe even revisit the what-if's.. we all do it, and most of us do the negative what-ifs, not the positive ones..

Human beings in general tend to be rather pessimistic in nature, and dont think positively.. I am all for a more positive approach.. Besides she already has the medical community giving her the doom and gloom report.. I don't feel the need to add to that!

 

[PrayinForBaby]

ttc_ob...i dont think she understand what Kitty meant....
Hypothetically Speaking:
day 1=hcg 2.3
day 2=6
day 3=15 (chance miscarriage occured)
day 4=9
day 5=4

So even though it increased from 2, it could've still been a decrease as well.

Just a hypothetical...but a real possibility as there is a history of miscarriage before....as well as slow hcg increases. Beth, I hope you get your bfp.

 

[TTC_Ob]

ttc_ob...i dont think she understand what Kitty meant....
Hypothetically Speaking:
day 1=hcg 2.3
day 2=6
day 3=15 (chance miscarriage occured)
day 4=9
day 5=4

So even though it increased from 2, it could've still been a decrease as well.

Just a hypothetical...but a real possibility as there is a history of miscarriage before....as well as slow hcg increases. Beth, I hope you get your bfp.

Right, I totally understand that.. thats how I saw it too and I just dont understand where anyones lack of tact was... great diagram... I thought it out in my head the same way....

 

[amommy]

it wasn't pointed towards you ttc ob, I KNOW you are a doc, you have stated such

 

[PrayinForBaby]

ttc_ob...i dont think she understand what Kitty meant....
Hypothetically Speaking:
day 1=hcg 2.3
day 2=6
day 3=15 (chance miscarriage occured)
day 4=9
day 5=4

So even though it increased from 2, it could've still been a decrease as well.

Just a hypothetical...but a real possibility as there is a history of miscarriage before....as well as slow hcg increases. Beth, I hope you get your bfp.

Right, I totally understand that.. thats how I saw it too and I just dont understand where anyones lack of tact was... great diagram... I thought it out in my head the same way....

if anything I think I'm the one who lacks tact, Kitty worded it very gently and I'm with you, I dont see how it was taken as almost an insult and something to call her unsupportive about.

 

[TTC_Ob]

it wasn't pointed towards you ttc ob, I KNOW you are a doc, you have stated such

I see... well it felt like it since it was me you responded to? I just wish there was a lil more tolerance on this site for differences... we all have a different way but if we sat back and tried to see the best in people we would see that we each bring our own gifts to the table and we would learn from eachother.... so often we react without thinking of how someone might have meant it... and trying to understand instead of attack...I REALLY hope Beth goes to the ER tomorrow and gets some answers and hopefully they can help her sustain this pregnancy!! Her tests were def positive and there has to be some kind of explanation! I look forward to hearing tomorrow....I wish us all the best and have nothing but hope for all our situations....

 

[beach9920]

Beth, I know this is all too confusing. Especially with lines like that and a blood test of 4. Even though 4 is "textbook" negative, and hcg didn't exactly double in 2-3 days like "textbook" says it should, it DID go up ....so on Sunday it should've been around 5.4....in reality its not that far off. Do you think you will be able to get hcg checked again within the next couple of days to see where it is then? Best of luck Beth!

 

[PrayinForBaby]

Just thought I'd add too Beth, I dont know where in WV you are from, but Dr.Burns here at Cabell is the top rated fertility specialist in the state...you don't have to have a doctor referral to get in with him. He's gotten 2 of my friends pregnant, one was TTC for 12 years, the other for almost 5.
https://cabellhuntington.org/services/advanced-reproductive-medicine/

 

[Babee_Bugs]

Awww hunnie i just wanted to send my warm to you...

Please, Please go to the ER, even if you have to tell a little white lie so that there listen to you and get something done, then soooo be it!!! Or chain yourself to the front door untill there do something!!!

There is soooo many endless Possibilities that could be going on right now! but speculation of those isnt of much help to you, Please go to the Medical Staff who can Help! even if you have to drive all day and night, please do so, to make sure that everything is ok

 

[kimberley3]

i agree with what everyone else is saying, it reall shocked me when you said 4 as no way in hell could you be getting + something is not right! x

 

[mummydeb]

i thought if you had of had a chemical you would have your period by now which you dont so hopefully all will be ok.
i remember getting loads of positives then negatives this went on for 2 wks dr told me to wait 2 weeks more to see what happens i then ended up in lots of pain went to hospital and i had miscarried my dr wouldnt listen to me and because his hpt was negative i was refused blood tests, i no its not the same but i no how frustarting it can be when your dr dont listen. hope you manage to get a second opinion have you tested today? if so how did they look? maybe take your tests into him and demand to be refererred xx

 

[gabbyskyy]

I hope you can get some answers Beth. I can only imagine how frustrating this is for you.

 

[beth30]

No, haven't tested today, no money.... DS is home, no school for him, he's sick...
Thinking of making the drive to cabell.... I live an hour away, but when I have gone to the hospital that is where I've went.... other than the local hospital once when I M/C. Still no period, and no sign of it.... My mom is urging me to wait, just like my doctor... I hate not having support in person...

 

[beth30]

No chemical I've ever had was like this.... I didn't get good positives at all with them...

 

[sjwebb]

Beth, I agree with the other girls, you need some answers. Its really unfair and unprofessional for your doctor to say wait a few WEEKS! Don't listen to people who aren't being the most supportive, its your body and you need to figure out what is going on.

 

[TTC_Ob]

No, haven't tested today, no money.... DS is home, no school for him, he's sick...
Thinking of making the drive to cabell.... I live an hour away, but when I have gone to the hospital that is where I've went.... other than the local hospital once when I M/C. Still no period, and no sign of it.... My mom is urging me to wait, just like my doctor... I hate not having support in person...

Sometimes you have to protect your MIND and your body and first of all block out allllll negative energy in your life because it will not help your body fight... second of all your mind is going to be on overload until you have answers and that stress isnt good for your fight either! I really really think you should go on down to that hospital in Cabell County and DEMAND you get some answers. No one understands the stress you are in better then you and you need to do whatever you can to elleviate that! Not to mention the fact that physically I dont think you should wait either... you just never know whats going on in there! You need to know tho...

 

[beth30]

Okay, so I called the doc's office at the hospital referred by prayinforbaby.... I got an appt there friday with a different doctor, but was assured that he was sympathetic, and took time to listen and help as much as he could.... I looked him up online and he had good reviews. I am not in any pain or anything like that, I am still taking all my meds, so friday is good for me, at least it isn't two weeks! It is only one day's wait... and I can handle that... On the plus side, if anything is wrong, I'd already be at the hospital... without having to go through the germ infested ER with my 4 year old...Thanks you guys, and thanks Prayin!