buddies needed.. clomid first cycle..
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wow piya that's great... i think that will turn into bfp... yay congrats....
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shona, opk can get surge near af.. i know.. but i have 1hpt left so i used it.. and now only 1opk.. i cant test now.. as af is shown to be on 28.. so i will check in july.. if i get bfp i will be highly surprised.. thanks for supporting me.. i want dilemma to end soon
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i have joined ff yesterday.. and started charting this cycle... m absolutely a nut.. i don't know how to use it.. i have it downloaded in my android...
please help...
apart from charting what else i can do or what else is useful???
please help...
apart from charting what else i can do or what else is useful???
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open the calender/my chart, select today date and enter the data.. i use it on sony vaio.. sometimes on my hubby mobile where net is free his office pays us.. its easy customise ur data.. i fill intercourse, meds,cervical fluid, opk data.. u will get use to it.. in few days.. just remember with ur morning alarm u have to temp,so keep thermo on ur bed racks..
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what i have read that egg get fertilized easily/ ivf too and its implantation is what is complicated.. its like we sow a single seed in a land.. if the land is good had all minerals and hormones the seed get sprouted.. in our case uterus linning and hormonal changes that includes stress, progesterone level, hcg level secreted , etc.. all combined effects the early pregnancy.. the cramps which starts after bfp is due to progesterone deficiency and most docs ignore it..so newly implanted egg looses with linning and comes off.. thats most common cause.. i had very clotty bleeding every time i had delayed cycle.. i thought i was pregnant.. but i never saw line.. but m very sure i had chemical.. so this time i discussed in brief and my doc told me to take progesterone.. m taking them.
hope u understood.. i will post about it in detail from web too soon..
hope u understood.. i will post about it in detail from web too soon..
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here it is..
What may look like an early period that is a little heavier or longer than normal, turns out to be a miscarriage. So now you have to deal with what may seem like a double tragedy, the loss of a child you may never have known existed. Look out for clotting in the blood in a heavier period and maybe more severe cramping though some women may not have any symptoms that anything is out of the ordinary and think they are just getting their periods as normal.
Why does this happen and how do you deal with such a loss? Is there anything you can do to prevent such a tragedy from occurring in the future?
Though you may not be that familiar with the term, chemical pregnancies are sadly common and account for between 50-60% of all first trimester miscarriages though they are not as easily detected unless youre trying to get pregnant and are very familiar with your ovulation schedule.
What causes a chemical pregnancy?
There are any number of reasons why a chemical pregnancy might occur, and sometimes the exact cause is never determined. The most common causes could be:
A genetic defect either passed down by the parent to the fetus or an abnormality the embryo has developed on its own due to cell division.
A thin uterine wall.
Obstructions in the uterus (ie fibroids)
A compromised immune system as a result of infection due to herpes, Chlamydia, syphilis or a thyroid condition.
There is even some research to suggest a link between hair dye and an increased risk of chemical pregnancies. If youre planning to try and conceive, you may want to skip the trip to the salon to color your hair just to keep the odds in your favor.
While there are some things that can be done to prevent future miscarriages, many doctors wont really take active action until a pattern of chemical pregnancies has occurred because most women who experience chemical pregnancies will have full term healthy babies later on.
But if you are trying to get pregnant and have experienced a chemical pregnancy in the past your doctor may prescribe some preventative steps you can take to make sure you can carry this baby full term.
Once you become pregnant, your doctor will monitor your HCG (Human Chorionic Gonadotropin) levels. HCG is the pregnancy hormone secreted by the placenta once it has begun to form and the embryo has implanted itself in the uterine wall and is detected in the urine when a pregnancy test is done.
In the case of a chemical pregnancy, the embryo implants itself in the uterine wall but doesnt develop as its supposed to resulting in what is called a blighted ovum.
If the HCG levels rise, this could signal the onset of another miscarriage very soon after implantation. If you have a history of miscarriages and want to try and get pregnant, your doctor may prescribe baby aspirin and an increase of the hormone progesterone. He may even suggest that surgery is necessary to remove any fibroid tumors that could be impeding a full term pregnancy.
Hell most likely suggest that you wait at least one full menstrual cycle before trying to conceive again.
For couples who experience a chemical pregnancy while actively trying to get pregnant, the emotional roller coaster can be devastating, especially if theyre suffering repeated miscarriages. You get the excitement of the faint positive test though nothing can be detected on the ultrasound yet and your blood tests HCG levels are low and if they dont increase over time, this is then followed by the disappointment of bleeding similar to that of a heavy period signalling a miscarriage.
You and your partner need to be able to talk to each other and acknowledge the disappointment and devastation of your loss. If you dont share your feelings, resentment may build between you and your partner as each of your may begin to blame the other for the loss of your baby.
Well meaning relatives and friends may try to ease your pain by reminding you that because the baby wasnt fully developed yet, you shouldnt feel bad. However it will only do you more harm than good if you try and get over it without acknowledging the sadness you have every right to feel.
Your doctor can refer you and your partner to someone you can talk to together about the feelings of loss youll be feeling.
If you suspect that you were pregnant and have experienced a miscarriage make sure to inform your doctor as soon as possible so that he can make sure to remove all signs of embryonic tissue. This will eliminate the risk of infection which may make it harder to get pregnant in the future and may lead to a pattern of more chemical pregnancies.
It may be advisable for you to hold off on taking the home pregnancy tests as you try to get pregnant and give yourself a missed period or two before letting your doctor do the pregnancy test himself.
In this day and age where pregnancy tests can detect conception with seemingly lightening quick speed, it might look like a dream come true to be able to celebrate the joyous occasion as soon as you can. However, if youve had chemical pregnancies in the past, a false positive can only bring more devastating when the dream is taken away.
What may look like an early period that is a little heavier or longer than normal, turns out to be a miscarriage. So now you have to deal with what may seem like a double tragedy, the loss of a child you may never have known existed. Look out for clotting in the blood in a heavier period and maybe more severe cramping though some women may not have any symptoms that anything is out of the ordinary and think they are just getting their periods as normal.
Why does this happen and how do you deal with such a loss? Is there anything you can do to prevent such a tragedy from occurring in the future?
Though you may not be that familiar with the term, chemical pregnancies are sadly common and account for between 50-60% of all first trimester miscarriages though they are not as easily detected unless youre trying to get pregnant and are very familiar with your ovulation schedule.
What causes a chemical pregnancy?
There are any number of reasons why a chemical pregnancy might occur, and sometimes the exact cause is never determined. The most common causes could be:
A genetic defect either passed down by the parent to the fetus or an abnormality the embryo has developed on its own due to cell division.
A thin uterine wall.
Obstructions in the uterus (ie fibroids)
A compromised immune system as a result of infection due to herpes, Chlamydia, syphilis or a thyroid condition.
There is even some research to suggest a link between hair dye and an increased risk of chemical pregnancies. If youre planning to try and conceive, you may want to skip the trip to the salon to color your hair just to keep the odds in your favor.
While there are some things that can be done to prevent future miscarriages, many doctors wont really take active action until a pattern of chemical pregnancies has occurred because most women who experience chemical pregnancies will have full term healthy babies later on.
But if you are trying to get pregnant and have experienced a chemical pregnancy in the past your doctor may prescribe some preventative steps you can take to make sure you can carry this baby full term.
Once you become pregnant, your doctor will monitor your HCG (Human Chorionic Gonadotropin) levels. HCG is the pregnancy hormone secreted by the placenta once it has begun to form and the embryo has implanted itself in the uterine wall and is detected in the urine when a pregnancy test is done.
In the case of a chemical pregnancy, the embryo implants itself in the uterine wall but doesnt develop as its supposed to resulting in what is called a blighted ovum.
If the HCG levels rise, this could signal the onset of another miscarriage very soon after implantation. If you have a history of miscarriages and want to try and get pregnant, your doctor may prescribe baby aspirin and an increase of the hormone progesterone. He may even suggest that surgery is necessary to remove any fibroid tumors that could be impeding a full term pregnancy.
Hell most likely suggest that you wait at least one full menstrual cycle before trying to conceive again.
For couples who experience a chemical pregnancy while actively trying to get pregnant, the emotional roller coaster can be devastating, especially if theyre suffering repeated miscarriages. You get the excitement of the faint positive test though nothing can be detected on the ultrasound yet and your blood tests HCG levels are low and if they dont increase over time, this is then followed by the disappointment of bleeding similar to that of a heavy period signalling a miscarriage.
You and your partner need to be able to talk to each other and acknowledge the disappointment and devastation of your loss. If you dont share your feelings, resentment may build between you and your partner as each of your may begin to blame the other for the loss of your baby.
Well meaning relatives and friends may try to ease your pain by reminding you that because the baby wasnt fully developed yet, you shouldnt feel bad. However it will only do you more harm than good if you try and get over it without acknowledging the sadness you have every right to feel.
Your doctor can refer you and your partner to someone you can talk to together about the feelings of loss youll be feeling.
If you suspect that you were pregnant and have experienced a miscarriage make sure to inform your doctor as soon as possible so that he can make sure to remove all signs of embryonic tissue. This will eliminate the risk of infection which may make it harder to get pregnant in the future and may lead to a pattern of more chemical pregnancies.
It may be advisable for you to hold off on taking the home pregnancy tests as you try to get pregnant and give yourself a missed period or two before letting your doctor do the pregnancy test himself.
In this day and age where pregnancy tests can detect conception with seemingly lightening quick speed, it might look like a dream come true to be able to celebrate the joyous occasion as soon as you can. However, if youve had chemical pregnancies in the past, a false positive can only bring more devastating when the dream is taken away.
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Are there other implantation issues that could be problem besides chromosomal abnormalities and low progesterone that lead to a pregnancy not progressing?
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In terms of your chemical pregnancies, that is a difficult problem to answer. If you have already undergone a complete recurrent miscarriage evaluation (hormones, infectious diseases, anatomical, genetic, immunologic) then we may not have the technology to find the exact cause. However, the hormonal is easy to check through blood tests, and I automatically place my patients on progesterone supplementation just in case; anatomical testing would take an ultrasound and hysteroscopy, again an easy test; and infectious diseases and genetic are also easy to test. The only one that is difficult and not completely understood is the immunologic component. Many authorities have looked into many different immune factors.
If you look at a website by Reproductive Immunology Associates, who have made a practice of the immunologic causes of miscarriage, you will see lots of different test that they recommend. Because this component is so difficult to define, experts have conflicting opinions.
If you were my patient, I would put you on a protocol that I use and, for the most part, have been successful with. It involves taking aspirin 81 mg per day starting at the beginning of the cycle, medrol (prednisone) 16 mg per day taken from the beginning of the cycle then decreasing to 8 mg after ovulation, progesterone vaginal suppositories beginning after ovulation and, finally, heparin 2000 units twice per day subcutaneously beginning at the start of the cycle. The aspirin, medrol and heparin treat for subclinical immunologic problems and the aspirin and heparin also help to increase blood flow at the microvascular level at the implantation.
RE ANSWER-
In terms of your chemical pregnancies, that is a difficult problem to answer. If you have already undergone a complete recurrent miscarriage evaluation (hormones, infectious diseases, anatomical, genetic, immunologic) then we may not have the technology to find the exact cause. However, the hormonal is easy to check through blood tests, and I automatically place my patients on progesterone supplementation just in case; anatomical testing would take an ultrasound and hysteroscopy, again an easy test; and infectious diseases and genetic are also easy to test. The only one that is difficult and not completely understood is the immunologic component. Many authorities have looked into many different immune factors.
If you look at a website by Reproductive Immunology Associates, who have made a practice of the immunologic causes of miscarriage, you will see lots of different test that they recommend. Because this component is so difficult to define, experts have conflicting opinions.
If you were my patient, I would put you on a protocol that I use and, for the most part, have been successful with. It involves taking aspirin 81 mg per day starting at the beginning of the cycle, medrol (prednisone) 16 mg per day taken from the beginning of the cycle then decreasing to 8 mg after ovulation, progesterone vaginal suppositories beginning after ovulation and, finally, heparin 2000 units twice per day subcutaneously beginning at the start of the cycle. The aspirin, medrol and heparin treat for subclinical immunologic problems and the aspirin and heparin also help to increase blood flow at the microvascular level at the implantation.
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wow sassy that's great... m so happy for you...
yay... have happy and healthy 9 months... yay....
may god bless you and your baby...
this is start of bfp... piya you are next...
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Yayyyyyyy Sassy!!!!!!! That is awesome news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So happy for you!
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Thank you piya!
Did you test yet? I thought we ovulated around the same time? My first positive opk was June 10.
Thanks Stephanie! When is your testing day??
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even my first positive opk was 10th, but my lp is long 15 days, i ovulated on cd12, af due by 28, so will test on 29.. i used opk nd got faint line.. but i dont have yellow cm.. my temp is high but.. cramps is going on.. dont know but i dont feel anything..
Thank you piya!
Did you test yet? I thought we ovulated around the same time? My first positive opk was June 10.
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