child benifits UK girls....not good news

[aob1013]

Totally agree with vinteenage.

I'm glad all these benefits are being cut.

well maby if you were in a situation where you had the smallest amount of money then you wouldnt have the same veiw.
From all your posts i read you seem to have a very snobish attitude. I will say right now that the £500 and the £190 or whetever it is really did help me, my family dont have much money and so it does help some familys that have no savings and little money coming in. Maby you could afford to buy everything but some people dont, i think you need to take that into consideration other peopes situations before posting.

I think they should have a cut off point for who should get it not completely take it away! Its totally unfair to people who genuinly wouldnt be able to afford to buy things without it.

And maybe before going in all guns blazing, maybe i have been in that situation before?

Before my fiance was lucky enough to become successful in his job, we relied TOTALLY on the benefit system. We were on jobseekers, housing benefits, every single benefit going, we had it. I know exactly what it's like to struggle, actually.

I'm sorry you find me 'snobbish' but i'm damn well proud of what we have worked for and if that makes me snobbish, i couldn't give a monkeys. I'm also damn well sick of all these benefits available. So yes, i am glad they have clamped down.

And for all these people saying 'we need the money' .. What do you think people did BEFORE benefits were around? They just had to get buy. There have been people living off hardly anything before benefits and they survived..

As i said before, we totally relied on the goverment before we found and worked hard at our jobs, so i know exactly where people are coming from. We had barely anything, we didn't eat for days, lived in the cold, it was awful. however, i do believe the government hand out money willy nilly, and too much of it. I did take the 190, but refused the 500. Babies are not expensive. They are only expensive if you make them so.

So, yes i do stand by my earlier post that i am glad the government is clamping down. We are in too much debt. It's up the parent to pay for their child as best they can, not the government. It's not snobbish, it's logical.

 

[aob1013]

Totally agree with vinteenage.

I'm glad all these benefits are being cut.

You were quite happy to get them for Leni. Slightly hypocritical.

The Health in Pregnancy grant was ridiculous because the healthy start vouchers are there to help people in genuine need and I fail too see how giving out £190 at past 25 weeks is encouraging people to be healthy

Personally I don't qualify for the sure start grant but I don't begrudge others having it! Having a baby is expensive and if its the only way people can afford baby essentials then it is much needed. I do however agree with it only being for the first child and I think it should be given out as vouchers for mothercare/babies'r'us

I was happy to get the 190, as everyone gets it regardless. But i did refuse the 500, i personally think that's ridiculous.

 

[My_First]

I have to say, for the first time I actually agree with you AOB

And clearly very few of you know enough about economics to think its all the banks fault. Its the society we currently have where people are better off not working than working, which create a problem, which, by cutting benefits, 3 strikes JSA etc. this Government is remeding!

Oh and a final point, in 10 years time, it will happen all over again. Recessions are cyclical...

 

[aob1013]

First time for everything hun x

 

[Cathington]

And maybe before going in all guns blazing, maybe i have been in that situation before?

Before my fiance was lucky enough to become successful in his job, we relied TOTALLY on the benefit system. We were on jobseekers, housing benefits, every single benefit going, we had it. I know exactly what it's like to struggle, actually.

I'm sorry you find me 'snobbish' but i'm damn well proud of what we have worked for and if that makes me snobbish, i couldn't give a monkeys. I'm also damn well sick of all these benefits available. So yes, i am glad they have clamped down.

And for all these people saying 'we need the money' .. What do you think people did BEFORE benefits were around? They just had to get buy. There have been people living off hardly anything before benefits and they survived..

As i said before, we totally relied on the goverment before we found and worked hard at our jobs, so i know exactly where people are coming from. We had barely anything, we didn't eat for days, lived in the cold, it was awful. however, i do believe the government hand out money willy nilly, and too much of it. I did take the 190, but refused the 500. Babies are not expensive. They are only expensive if you make them so.

So, yes i do stand by my earlier post that i am glad the government is clamping down. We are in too much debt. It's up the parent to pay for their child as best they can, not the government. It's not snobbish, it's logical.

Sooo, basically when you needed the benefits and were short on cash you were happy to take it. But now you've gained financial stability your suddenly are against the government giving out benefits? Bit selfish that :l perhaps others need those benefits that you were all too happy to accept once upon a time to help them get started so they can gain financial stability themselves and get off benefits.

You're right, it IS up to the parents, so why didn't you not rely on the government so much at the start then, surely it was up to you as the parent to support your child, not the benefits you accepted? That's logical too right, so are you planning on giving the money back they gave you them times?

Personally i don't think it's wrong for anybody who needs the help to accept it, especially if they have plans to try support themselves in the future but just need a little helping hand at the start. Everybody's situations are different and we shouldn't judge, 'logical' or not.

 

[Mummy2B21]

um yes it is.

 

[aob1013]

And maybe before going in all guns blazing, maybe i have been in that situation before?

Before my fiance was lucky enough to become successful in his job, we relied TOTALLY on the benefit system. We were on jobseekers, housing benefits, every single benefit going, we had it. I know exactly what it's like to struggle, actually.

I'm sorry you find me 'snobbish' but i'm damn well proud of what we have worked for and if that makes me snobbish, i couldn't give a monkeys. I'm also damn well sick of all these benefits available. So yes, i am glad they have clamped down.

And for all these people saying 'we need the money' .. What do you think people did BEFORE benefits were around? They just had to get buy. There have been people living off hardly anything before benefits and they survived..

As i said before, we totally relied on the goverment before we found and worked hard at our jobs, so i know exactly where people are coming from. We had barely anything, we didn't eat for days, lived in the cold, it was awful. however, i do believe the government hand out money willy nilly, and too much of it. I did take the 190, but refused the 500. Babies are not expensive. They are only expensive if you make them so.

So, yes i do stand by my earlier post that i am glad the government is clamping down. We are in too much debt. It's up the parent to pay for their child as best they can, not the government. It's not snobbish, it's logical.

Sooo, basically when you needed the benefits and were short on cash you were happy to take it. But now you've gained financial stability your suddenly are against the government giving out benefits? Bit selfish that :l perhaps others need those benefits that you were all too happy to accept once upon a time to help them get started so they can gain financial stability themselves and get off benefits.

You're right, it IS up to the parents, so why didn't you not rely on the government so much at the start then, surely it was up to you as the parent to support your child, not the benefits you accepted? That's logical too right, so are you planning on giving the money back they gave you them times?

Personally i don't think it's wrong for anybody who needs the help to accept it, especially if they have plans to try support themselves in the future but just need a little helping hand at the start. Everybody's situations are different and we shouldn't judge, 'logical' or not.

Hey, i never said i was against benefits

Benefits are fantastic for people that desperately need them. We needed them, we would have been on the street. Of course, there are always exceptions to the rule.

However, what i do object to is the 500 SSMG, which i refused$ and i object to people abusing the system. Isn't everyone against people abusing the system? Also, i object to people staying on benefits long term, benefits are a lifesaver, last resort, short tem solution. NOT a lifestyle choice.

 

[aob1013]

I also object to people TTC while they are on benefits. So wrong. A friend of mine did it, and she admitted that it was wrong to actively TTC when they can't afford a baby,

 

[Yazz_n_bump]

I also object to people TTC while they are on benefits. So wrong.

Oh that is something I agree with you on haha probably the ONLY thing but still. If they're on benefits and a happy accident happens then it's sods law, but your right trying to get pregerant while not in a job or your OH isn't a job that's just selfish... unless the person knows there in line for a job or something..

My SIL is a prime example... she is on benefits.. her OH does work however earns only enough to pay his rent at his parents home & insurance on his car AND he claims benefits because he does cash in hand job.

 

[aob1013]

As i said Yaz, people on benefits for legit reason such as accidental pregnancy (happened to me!) I have no problem. They ARE a lifeline. However i do think things such as food vouchers/500 quid .. Not so sure.

 

[Cathington]

Yeah i agree with that, benefits should never be a long term thing, and i also think that they should be a last option thing (why i'm avoiding it at the moment!). I am against those who stay on benefits and seek job seekers (without any intention of actually getting a job), but i do believe that sometimes people do need the help out benefits systems offer, and i'd hope that if i ever found myself in need of a helping hand i would have the option.

They certainly shouldn't be cut altogether.

I was never offered the £500, so i can't say i'm for or against taking it, since i was never given the option too, but it's not killed me not to have it, but i understand that some people may need it to help them out.

The £500 you get to start a trust fund i think isn't needed... But that's just my opinion :]

 

[aob1013]

Yes i can't believe that 500 trust fund .. So unncessary!

 

[rainbows_x]

To be honest, I found the £190 really helpfull, I don't however agree that it should be for "Health in pregnancy" as you get it over half way through your pregnancy, I don't know of anyone who went out and bought fruit/veg with it :/ I spent mine on a bouncer for Ava & dummies, bibs etc.

I didn't get the £500, I was eligable for it. Tbh I wouldn't know what to spend £500 on I don't work, I quit a couple weeks before finding out I was pregnant, was in hospital, developed serious ms & had trouble finding a job. OH works full time, 40+ hours a week to provide for me.

I get CTC & CB, £60 every week & £80 every month. I actually can't see how anyone would spend £320 a month on their child! Just me personally - We forumla feed, use disposables etc, I buy her clothes and stuff but couldn't spend that much on her, there's no need. I don't see the need for giving out that much money, and I don't get JSA, IS etc. Just my personal though (I pay rent, but food etc so not exactly rich)

 

[Yazz_n_bump]

As i said Yaz, people on benefits for legit reason such as accidental pregnancy (happened to me!) I have no problem. They ARE a lifeline. However i do think things such as food vouchers/500 quid .. Not so sure.

Food vouchers DO help. Espcially when baby is there, I mean £6.10 a week to spend on milk/veg that's really helpful.. but maybe it should be for all mums as I mean we all do get a massive pay cut unless you don't go on mat leave.. which is like 1%.

 

[Yazz_n_bump]

Yes i can't believe that 500 trust fund .. So unncessary!

It's £250 now the trust fund, but I think that's stopping too. Don't see the point in that one as the child won't see it till there even 18 so how it helps I don't know.

 

[My_First]

Yes i can't believe that 500 trust fund .. So unncessary!

It's £250 now the trust fund, but I think that's stopping too. Don't see the point in that one as the child won't see it till there even 18 so how it helps I don't know.

Yes, its been cut too £50 to this April, then its scrapped. Apologies, its already been scrapped.. https://www.childtrustfund.gov.uk/templates/Page____1147.aspx

 

[Dragonfly]

I didnt bother with the trust frund for Alex., I did with William as the midwife went on and on about it. I dont trust them things so I dont pay into them. I dont see the grants as a bad thing, I did use mine at the start for pram, cot and all that stuff. Was helpful. Healthy eating one I see no point on but was useful to as i got baby things out of it also.

Healthy start vouchers however for formula isnt really promoting breastfeeding from sure start at all.

 

[Aidan's Mummy]

The healthy start vouchers were a huge help. They did help with formula, and I think for women who can't breastfeed or try and fail they are a godsend x

 

[AP]

I never put alexs trust fund anywhere, it landed up at nat west as shares and I haven't done anything with it. so that kinda says it all.....

 

[Aidan's Mummy]

As for benefits I agree with aob. I was on benefits due to an unexpected pregnancy. But I am now off them and supporting myself. Benefits are they to support people that can't work or those that need help for a short period of time. For people that can work they shouldn't be seen as a long term solution. I also don't agree with people that can work having child after child whilst on benefits. Those that can't work for various reasons I.e. Carers, illness etc (I am aware there are many reasons others cage work but won't list them all Eta: are did take the trust fund, it is in a saving account and I have been adding to it x