Clomid Failure

[jennievictora]

that would be great thank you im starting clomid 150mg tmz

 

[lizard148]

Just got off the phone with the doctors office and they are pretty much writing this cycle off. They told me not to come in for day21 progesterone draw and to wait for next af and take 150mg again. I'm so frustrated!!!!!!! They can't even give me a reason for what's going on. I don't even know if I can expect to ovulate this cycle. I'm going to bd anyways.

I'm sorry that you have had such a bad day...waiting can be really hard. So they told you to wait for af...are they assuming you didn't ovulate because you are still spotting? Can you take Provera early (now?) or are they considering your heavy bleeding now as being a period? Also, what does bd mean? Did they say why you are bleeding? Have you asked why they are not doing u/s? I would suggest you see a reproductive endocrinologist if you are not already. My progress has been monitored very well, and all of my questions have been answered.

Sorry for all of the questions, I was just curious what was going on with you! I hope you have better luck for your next cycle.

Redberry,
I noticed that you are doing acupuncture. What does that do to help with fertility?

 

[Mommyagain]

They really haven't answered any of my questions. This is my third clomid cycle and so far I havent ovulated. I think they are just saying this cycle is a bust because I'm still on my period and I should have been ovulating any day now. I'm bleeding heavy.

Bd means baby dance (sex)

I also saw where you asked about mood swings.... I have had mood swings and can tell a difference between how I feel emotionally on and off the meds.

 

[lizard148]

I'm sorry everyone, but I have to share something....I just had a difficult conversation with my husband. He thinks that I am obsessing over having a baby. I do think about it a lot. He said he was concerned b/c of the amount of time I spend worrying and talking to others about our problem. Is anyone having a similar problem? How do I stop focusing so much attention on something that I want so much?

 

[Mommyagain]

I'm sorry everyone, but I have to share something....I just had a difficult conversation with my husband. He thinks that I am obsessing over having a baby. I do think about it a lot. He said he was concerned b/c of the amount of time I spend worrying and talking to others about our problem. Is anyone having a similar problem? How do I stop focusing so much attention on something that I want so much?

I don't think men get how much the inability to conceive affects our daily lives. That we want it so badly and it is always lurking in the back of our minds. My DH tries to be supportive and I know he wants another baby but I also know he doesn't think about it like I do. The only thing that helps me is just trying to stay busy.

 

[redberry]

I'm sorry everyone, but I have to share something....I just had a difficult conversation with my husband. He thinks that I am obsessing over having a baby. I do think about it a lot. He said he was concerned b/c of the amount of time I spend worrying and talking to others about our problem. Is anyone having a similar problem? How do I stop focusing so much attention on something that I want so much?

My husband keeps saying "Don't worry about what hasn't happened." Unfortunately, these emotions can't just be switched off. The fact is that women share their problems and feel better when someone just listens and comforts them and men keep their problems to themselves and like to find and offer solutions. Their answer is "stop thinking about it", which doesn't work for a woman, who needs to be told that they're not alone and that it's all going to be alright.

I think we all just have to accept that men and women work differently and our men will never understand us! I feel bad sometimes that I might be making my husband think he's not enough for me, but women are designed to make babies and men are designed to sow their seed and leave. There's nothing we can do to change biology. That's partly why infertility is so hard. We have no control over what our bodies decide to do or not do.

I suggest you talk to your husband about this and ask him to try and understand that you need different things. Tell him that you'll try and understand him if he tries to understand you. I told my husband that whenever I shouted at him because I was frustrated about something unrelated and he was in the firing line, he should just give me a nice long hug and I'd be ok. And it works! Hope it does for you too.

I've also just seen your question about acupuncture. I'm going to see a woman who specialises in acupuncture for fertility reasons. The main thing it does is attempt to regulate cycles, but it can also help with other things. I haven't been yet, so I have yet to see exactly what she can do for me. I'm going because I saw that others on here had been to her and I feel like I need to try something while waiting to see whether I need to go on to IVF. Even if it only helps me reduce my stress levels, I think it'll be worth it. Google Jackie Brown acupuncture to read her website.

and baby dust to you all!

 

[Mommyagain]

I'm on cd19 today and my first response opk was a shade away from being positive. So close!!! My opks (been using them since cd10) have been getting darker but not positive yet. Today is by far the darkest but still lighter than the control line. Could I be working up to ovulation???? My doctor thought I was out. Oh, PLEASE let it be!!!!

 

[redberry]

I'm on cd19 today and my first response opk was a shade away from being positive. So close!!! My opks (been using them since cd10) have been getting darker but not positive yet. Today is by far the darkest but still lighter than the control line. Could I be working up to ovulation???? My doctor thought I was out. Oh, PLEASE let it be!!!!

Fingers crossed!

 

[lizard148]

I'm on cd19 today and my first response opk was a shade away from being positive. So close!!! My opks (been using them since cd10) have been getting darker but not positive yet. Today is by far the darkest but still lighter than the control line. Could I be working up to ovulation???? My doctor thought I was out. Oh, PLEASE let it be!!!!

Good luck to you!! I hope you ovulated! When is your progesterone test? I have been having trouble with OPK also. They are so confusing b/c you have to look at the intensity of the color and the thickness of the line. This month I started using the digital ones that show a smiley face if you ovulated and a circle if you didn't. It is much easier. Let us know what happens!

 

[Mommyagain]

Hey ladies!! My doctor cancelled my progesterone test ( which would've been tomorrow) because of my long af. I've been doing opks anyways because I was thinking if I get a positive then I'll call and request a progesterone test at that point. I actually put a thread under ttc with my opk pics included to get opinions if you all want to look. I was hoping against hope that it would be s nice +++ this morning but of course it wasn't! There is still a line but it's a little lighter than yesterday's. I guess I'll just gave to see what tomorrow brings.

Anyone have confirmed ovulation on clomid yet? Hoping for good news from some of my clomid ladies!!!

 

[kayley2704]

hey im the same i dont ovulate iv been on clomid go knnows how many months and metformin iv had lap and dye and nothing is working! i also suffer from pcos hope things work out for u hun add me on facebook kayley aspey xx

 

[Mommyagain]

hey im the same i dont ovulate iv been on clomid go knnows how many months and metformin iv had lap and dye and nothing is working! i also suffer from pcos hope things work out for u hun add me on facebook kayley aspey xx

I used to think clomid was my miracle drug but now I have pretty much lost faith in it.

What cd are you? Will you be testing soon? I'm on cd20.

 

[kayley2704]

Yup iv lost all faith I'm on cd28 at the moment ifs it's anything like last month I went up to 43days! X

 

[lizard148]

hey im the same i dont ovulate iv been on clomid go knnows how many months and metformin iv had lap and dye and nothing is working! i also suffer from pcos hope things work out for u hun add me on facebook kayley aspey xx

Welcome to our group Kayley! Sometimes it is just nice to know we are not alone in this. It has really helped me to talk to all of you on here!

So I had my first ultrasound today (day 14). I had one good follicle!! That is good, but I haven't had a positive OPK yet. Should I continue to test? My doctor says we should start our timed intercourse today, because of the follicle. I think I will continue with the OPK and see if I get a positive test. I will have my progesterone test on day 21 to confirm ovulation.

 

[kayley2704]

Opk are so expensive to find nothing comes up on them I don't bother buying them now but if u feel like and can notice any sign of ovulation I would why can't we get them on prescription would be so much cheaper! X

 

[Mommyagain]

hey im the same i dont ovulate iv been on clomid go knnows how many months and metformin iv had lap and dye and nothing is working! i also suffer from pcos hope things work out for u hun add me on facebook kayley aspey xx

Welcome to our group Kayley! Sometimes it is just nice to know we are not alone in this. It has really helped me to talk to all of you on here!

So I had my first ultrasound today (day 14). I had one good follicle!! That is good, but I haven't had a positive OPK yet. Should I continue to test? My doctor says we should start our timed intercourse today, because of the follicle. I think I will continue with the OPK and see if I get a positive test. I will have my progesterone test on day 21 to confirm ovulation.

If it was affordable I would test. I did this cycle to try and keep me sane.

 

[lizard148]

Thanks for the advice, Mommyagain. Today I am on day 16, and I have been doing OPK since day 12. I haven't had a positive one yet, even though I had a follicle in my ultrasound. Does anyone know what OPK actually test? Is it if the egg has been released from the ovary or if the egg is mature?

 

[kayley2704]

i think its if the egg has been released as you let off more hormoan then not 100% tho xx

 

[redberry]

Thanks for the advice, Mommyagain. Today I am on day 16, and I have been doing OPK since day 12. I haven't had a positive one yet, even though I had a follicle in my ultrasound. Does anyone know what OPK actually test? Is it if the egg has been released from the ovary or if the egg is mature?

OPKs test for a surge of luteinising hormone, which happens when the follicle has matured. The LH surge triggers ovulation, so it's not telling you that an egg has already been released. It also triggers the conversion of the remaining follicle into the corpus luteum, once the egg has been released.

OPKs are not really much help in telling you whether you ovulate or not. They can actually make you miss ovulation if you stop testing after the first LH surge, as sometimes you won't ovulate until after a second (or even third) surge, though that's more common if you have PCOS.

I think no LH surge probably just means that your follicle isn't mature yet. Fingers crossed it'll come along soon!

 

[Mommyagain]

I'm on cd23 and still don't have a +++ opk. This mornings was pretty close though. I only have 2 tests left.