coping on such little sleep. how do you do it?

I havnt read the full thread but I think someone's mentioned lavender drops ?
I can highly recommend them they worked wonders for us - could have been something else but ours slept great after using this .

Coping with tiredness yourself ............caffeine x
 
I've not found anything that works either! I've not had a full nights sleep in over 4 years now! Charlie was 2 hourly till 6 months then went to 4 hourly till 1 year and since then she wakes and thinks its day time from 1am - 5am then has a nap and is up for the day at 6:30.
Tori who I thought couldn't be worse has woken every 2 hours since birth and is 19 months now, we had a month of every hour but thankfully that past.
I go to bed at about 11 and am then up at 1am with both of them, I can sometime doze if Charlie is quiet but I get from 5 till 6:30 if tori isn't due a wake up!
A usual night is now about 3/4 hours on a good night but a bad one can be none or an hour or 2!

I get ill and run down, snappy and my house looks like a explosion happened right now!

Charlie doesn't nap and tori occasionally naps for half an hour but not often. I cannot wait for the days they sleep maybe then I will remember what normal feels like lol.
Redbull helps and I make sure we get out somewhere each day or I will go insane!
 
I sympathise as my LO was a horrific sleeper for the first 18 months of his life. Up every 1-2 hours for 30 mins or so. I got 5 hours a day if I was lucky. I basically was crazy and depressed from sleep deprivation at the time.

He still wakes twice a night at two, though he's back to sleep in 10 mins or so once I've gone to lie him down again. Baby #2 coming in July and I don't know how I'll cope with two waking at night.

I notice you said something about Thomas sleeping better if physically tired. I'd really try as hard as possible to physically wear him out each day, it's worth the hassle and drama for more sleep I think.

ETA - sorry you were talking about naps!
 
I'm not sure I'd consider my daughter a 'bad sleeper' as I hate the term and I think it's normal for babies and toddlers to wake up lots. We've bed-shared either full or part-time since she was born and she's mostly always woken up several times a night, like every 1-3 hours. We did have a few months when she started to STTN maybe from around 13 months (it was weird!!). But otherwise, she's always woken multiple times. When it's a rough phase, she's back in bed with us - well, me, my husband sleeps on the floor because we don't all fit in the bed, need to get a new one! That at least helps me not wake up so completely when I do have to get up, because I have insomnia, so if I wake up fully during the night, it takes an hour or two to fall back to sleep. That means I get more sleep than I would if I had to get out of bed. You're already bedsharing, so you know that. I also make a real effort to go to bed early if it's been a particularly rough few days. I cook dinner early while my daughter is having her dinner (usually we eat after she goes to bed), so that we eat right after bedtime and go to bed ourselves. Otherwise, during the day, lots of coffee! Also, though it's easier said than done (trust me, it's a pain in the ass some days), I've found that eating as healthy as I can and squeezing in some exercise during the day helps a lot with my energy levels, even on the worst days. I squeeze in a run or a walk during my lunch break, but that's not as easy if you don't work and you're home all day because you don't have the luxury of childcare for those 30 minutes. But it does really help. Makes me not feel like I'm going to lose my mind quite so much. Oh, yeah, and coffee. Did I say that already?
 
I think I've earned my stripes to call my LO a "bad sleeper" when there have been no good phases and phases are either bad or extremely bad and STTN has happened maybe 8 times in 22 months and you have a toddler that wakes 5+ times a night and 3 hour MOTN are the norm ... I think "bad sleeper" is a pretty accurate description :haha:
 
I think I've earned my stripes to call my LO a "bad sleeper" when there have been no good phases and phases are either bad or extremely bad and STTN has happened maybe 8 times in 22 months and you have a toddler that wakes 5+ times a night and 3 hour MOTN are the norm ... I think "bad sleeper" is a pretty accurate description :haha:
We have bad and extremely bad here too! He's slept through once in his whole 2.5 of existence. Also have a 10 day old and they're playing tag team in the middle of the night!!
 
I think I've earned my stripes to call my LO a "bad sleeper" when there have been no good phases and phases are either bad or extremely bad and STTN has happened maybe 8 times in 22 months and you have a toddler that wakes 5+ times a night and 3 hour MOTN are the norm ... I think "bad sleeper" is a pretty accurate description :haha:
We have bad and extremely bad here too! He's slept through once in his whole 2.5 of existence. Also have a 10 day old and they're playing tag team in the middle of the night!!

I got chills thinking about that. You are a better person than me.

Felix we are back to motn parties here too.
 
If he were just waking several times a night but went back to sleep it would be fine. Thomas' issue is he's so hyperactive (related to his additional needs but he's also suspected adhd) that he just can't wind down. Because e of his spd we have to be very careful how we deal with him as it's very easy to over stimulate him. Once he is finally asleep he wakes regularly then decides he's had enough sleep and is awake for roughly 4-5 hours. On days where he having a really rough time I've gone 24 hours without sleep because he is so worked up.

It's very rough with him I don't know where I am with him one day to the next.

The last few days all he's done is run the length of my living room or go round in circles in fact as I'm typing this I can see on the video monitor that he's doing it in our room right now. I don't know wether to go up which will send him nuts or leave him to it but he will do it for an hour no problems (with the occasional.stumble because he must get too dizzy).

Even when I'm in bed with him I find it hard to physically restrain him. He self harms and attacks me. Honestly it is just the worst :(
 
Oh sequeena :( I wish you didn't struggle so much.

It's tough because a lot of people just say "just co sleep" but it doesn't help always and in some cases (ours) makes sleep about a million times worse.
 
I love Co sleeping and I would 100% do it again if we have another child but it's really hard with thomas now.
 
I wish co sleeping helped us, we'd be doing it no questions asked. But it means playtime and awake every half hour with 10 minutes to settle.

How would be be with a mattress next to your bed? I'm guessing no good because he doesn't just need you near by but he needs restraining? Would a weighted blanket help at all? I'm not even sure if a weighted blanket is for night time sleep? You've probably tried all these things ...
 
We've done a mattress and no it doesn't work :( we don't yet have a weighted blanket but I did discuss it with his OT and you can't use them all night :(

I think I just have to rough it out. That's ok I will do it sometimes there is just no answer. I will complain about it though :haha:
 
My kid is nowhere near as hard on me as Thomas is on you sleep-wise. I'm sorry it's so tough. Mine has never slept through properly and wakes up five or more times a night quite regularly. I've got insomnia, so I'm a shitty sleeper myself and I bet my mum thinks, secretly, that I finally got to experience what it was like for her.

I'm always tired and I find myself snapping and shouting a lot. I'm disappointed in myself because of this. I work full time and sometimes I'm so exhausted I can't talk coherently. My depression is driving me crazy and I'm worried that my kid will pick up on it.

I don't have any good coping strategies really. At work, I drag myself through the day any whichever way. I live for the time I spend with my family. I'm very soppy about my kid and love to watch her sleep, which helps a bit.
 
I think I've earned my stripes to call my LO a "bad sleeper" when there have been no good phases and phases are either bad or extremely bad and STTN has happened maybe 8 times in 22 months and you have a toddler that wakes 5+ times a night and 3 hour MOTN are the norm ... I think "bad sleeper" is a pretty accurate description :haha:
We have bad and extremely bad here too! He's slept through once in his whole 2.5 of existence. Also have a 10 day old and they're playing tag team in the middle of the night!!

I got chills thinking about that. You are a better person than me.

Felix we are back to motn parties here too.

I got chills too - I love 'em but I'm bloody knackered!!
 
I definitely think coming to terms with the fact that you aren't going to get a good nights sleep helps. If you say to yourself hopefully I'll get one hours sleep tonight and you get two then it feels better!

Also I would say eat as healthier as you can. I always feel like eating loads of cake, sweets and sugary things but i really do have more energy if I have a green smoothie (avocado, peanut butter, banana, spinach, yoghurt and orange juice is a fave!) instead.

Don't try to do too much when they are sleeping too. I'm so bad for whiz zing round the house tidying when Sophie goes down for a nap rather than just resting!

Also take some downtime and read a book before bed and get to bed early.

These are just things that help for me. It's so hard and I really hope things get better for you soon as is such a long time for you now :hugs:
 
Also don't be too hard on yourself if you snap at people as I think it's totally normal.

I've been snapping quite a lot at Sophie recently as she's just so wild at the moment and I keep feeling really guilty about it all but I think how little sleep I have had then I think no wonder I snap!
 
Wow, some other people going through bad nights!

I have a 9 year old, 4 year old and an almost 2 year old. The 9 year old is just about sorted sleep wise now. The 4 year old is the biggest problem (in the nicest possible way!!) and does sometimes sleep through BUT when she doesn't she's awake half of the night, we have just stopped melatonin after a trial period as it made her worse! We are waiting to see a geneticist to diagnose a genetic condition which causes all sorts of problems so hoping we'll get some help soon. The youngest is up and down a lot but there's usually an attributable reason - the hardest thing is when you know sleep is precious you'll do almost anything to get one of them back to sleep so as not to disturb the others!

It's all good fun!
 
Thanks everyone x I was speaking about this and other issues yesterday with my cousin. She told me that I have to let her and my family take Thomas more often. I'm not good with asking for help and she said I open up a bit then I shut everyone out :blush:

My OH is home tonight so hopefully I will get more sleep!
 
its so hard! you expect to not sleep with a baby, but tbh my toddler is worse than she was as an infant.

I always look destroyed! have aged so much in the past 2 years. recently ive started to get migraine headaches ontop of it all :(

as for coping - coffee, tho I have to limit to 2 a day. lots of protein in my diet. I gotta stay away from a lot of sugar (tho that's all I want when im tired!!) as I crash horribly after it. i find yoga helpful as it doesn't take a lot out of me to do it. taking her places like softplay and the pool where i don't have to do too much and she expends mass energy is key as well.


sequeena, is there any way your oh can put in for a day shift and get off nights?
 

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