Dealing with azoospermia?

[deafgal01]

MJ- yes he's on a form of clomid.

 

[Deb111]

Suzanne - it sounds like your appt went really well and things are moving. My husband had a random biopsy on the NHS, but they woulnd't co-ordinate it with my cycle and said they woulkd freeze any they found. However, on the day, they only found 3 and got rid of them because they said they needed a minimum of 100 to freeze under NHS criteria, so just double check that they will freeze ANY that they find. I know it's a process that needs to be done and in hindsight, it at least gave us the hope to move on privately, but I wished we had been told the full facts because being overjoyed they at least found 'some' healthy, mature, motile was sperm only to be told they would destroy them, was heartbreaking at the time

 

[esuzanne]

Suzanne - it sounds like your appt went really well and things are moving. My husband had a random biopsy on the NHS, but they woulnd't co-ordinate it with my cycle and said they woulkd freeze any they found. However, on the day, they only found 3 and got rid of them because they said they needed a minimum of 100 to freeze under NHS criteria, so just double check that they will freeze ANY that they find. I know it's a process that needs to be done and in hindsight, it at least gave us the hope to move on privately, but I wished we had been told the full facts because being overjoyed they at least found 'some' healthy, mature, motile was sperm only to be told they would destroy them, was heartbreaking at the time

Thanks Deb! Unfortunately, we will have to pay for most of this out of our pocket, but it is worth every penny! I will definitely be sure to check that they will freeze ANY they find! How was your DH's recovery? Apprently according to the dr, the clinic wants us to do this and see what the options are before we do anything with my cycle. I am so ready to just do SOMETHING haha!

 

[raelynn]

My nurse is amazing and finagled some earlier dates for us! I'm starting IVF next week! I'll be on the antagonist protocol with lupron trigger since I'm a high responder. I don't know much about the protocol but I guess I'll be finding out really soon!

 

[Deb111]

He was in quite a lot of pain after the random biopsy, but it was more abdominal pain than anything - partly caused by the discomfort of the 'one size' support jockstrap they put on him (and he's def not a one size fits all guy!) The half hour journey home was very uncomfortable for him in the car too. He had it done on the Thurs and they said he'd be fine for work on the Mon - in actual fact he didn't even get out of bed apart from going to the loo until Tuesday. Plus the pain killers gave him dreadful constipation which only added to the abdominal discomfort.

HOWEVER, the other 3 men who had the same procedure at the same time, walked out of there like nothing had happened - so I think hubby was in the minority.

Now, the mTESE, which is in theory much more invasive surgery, was totally different. They gave him an injection of pain killers in surgery, but he never so much as took a paracetamol afterwards. Managed being driven a 2 and a half hour car journey home the same day with no discomfort and was up and about as normal the next day.

 

[Deb111]

My nurse is amazing and finagled some earlier dates for us! I'm starting IVF next week! I'll be on the antagonist protocol with lupron trigger since I'm a high responder. I don't know much about the protocol but I guess I'll be finding out really soon!

How exciting!!!

 

[Stinas]

raelynn - YAY!!!!

 

[wibble wobble]

yay raelynn anatagonist is the short protocol no down regging just stimms drugs egg collection,egg transfer 2ww... we may be 2wwers together

MJ going good now counting down the days til baseline scan 5 togo

 

[raelynn]

Wibble wobble - My schedule definitely seems really fast. When are you projected to be in the 2ww? It would be great to have someone to tough it out with

From what I've read so far, I'm on the antagonist protocol with lupron trigger since I'm at risk to be a high responder. I have PCOS which is already at risk for OHSS and my AFC was high so I'm actually glad to be on this protocol since I was really worried about OHSS. It is supposed to be really unlikely with the lupron trigger instead of HCG

 

[Mercury1]

Hi again! I've been watching what's happening with everyone, and it's so exciting that so many of you are seeing some action So excited for you all and praying hard it works ..... and getting impatient waiting for my turn but you've all been where I am and it'll come! Everything crossed for you all.

I am just glad that we will finally have an answer on if there are any in there at all!! I mean maybe you girls can help me, this will be the ultimate test, right? The dr also took blood for these tests...FSH, LH, Prolactin, and Testosterone.

Hi esuzanne - just wondering if genetic tests had been mentioned? Esp if you're paying for procedures out of your own pocket maybe these should be done as it may change things. I assume they've excluded a blockage with an ultrasound? Although the hormone tests he's had will point to whether its obstructive or not. It's just that a biopsy is quite a big thing if this stuff hasn't been looked into first, but at least you have a urologist who's got things moving

AFM, me and OH are in quite a good place after his angry time following the bad results. Still waiting for an appointment to schedule mTESE. He got all upset with himself for missing one day of supplements, so I'm glad he's being so proactive (if a bit oversensitive.....!!). I had my first really bad day at work with all this after delivering a baby and then wondering if it'll ever happen for me. Hope it was just a blip and I can keep personal and professional separate most of the time

Wibble wobble, silverbell, snd, raelynn, sun up, MrsC and MJ - good luck with with your treatment. Sending you all the luck in the world.

Deafgal - fingers crossed for good news with your SA

Stinas - you must be so excited! and sooooo nervous!

Canadianmaple - sorry you've still got tough decisions, but at least you're getting somewhere

I'm cheering you all on from the sidelines!! xxx

 

[esuzanne]

Deb-sorry to hear your DH had such a rough time! Ill be sure not to mention it to mine ;-) haha. I've tried looking online but I'm so confused...what exactly as far as procedure, is the difference from the microTESE & the general biopsy? Hell I kinda feel like if you're already in there lets just check it out ;-)

Mercury-we haven't done any genetic testing yet and we are still waiting for the hormone tests-hope to hear on Monday! I think the reason the dr didn't suggest an ultrasound is bc we really want to get on this and find an answer. Of course it would've been cheaper haha! I wonder how long the genetic tests would take? I know our insurance wont pay for them either. :-/

I hope we are doing the right thing?!

 

[luckdragon]

Sorry I've been AWOL girls. Just been taking a step back and not been on as much and sticking mostly to my journal.

Just want to say I think of all of you all the time.

snd - I'm so sorry this cycle was cancelled, but I'm so chuffed for you to hear that they're taking it all so seriously and making huge steps to get you pregnant next time around Come on AF!

hope your doing ok silver xxx

 

[Deb111]

Suzanne - the hormone blood tests should give a pretty good indication of whether your dh has a blockage or not. My hubby never had an ultrasound because the blood test gave them the answers they needed.

The main difference with the precedures is that the random biopsies / TESE / PESA etc either randomly aspirate fluid or take tiny biopsy samples from various places e.g.t eh epididimus (sp?) whereas with the mTESE they literall slice the testicle in half and 'read it like a book' (in the words of our urologist) with a very powerful microscope. They cannot see the sperm, but look for the tubules that look more round and full - they are the ones likely to contain sperm so they know where to aim for

 

[Stinas]

Mercury1 - It is exciting and scary at the same time. Im just hoping DH biopsy show sperm, which doc seems pretty confident he will find some. Everything came back normal and he did find the blockage, but its still scary not knowing 100% sure whats in there. I do have a good feeling though.
Dont worry....you will move along too soon! Waiting is the worst. Im fortunate enough to have found the right docs that have sped us through this process. I wish it was like that for everyone here. I never imagined it to go so fast. I feel guilty in a way because I know sooo many of you azoo ladies are still waiting.

 

[raelynn]

Stinas - That is so great that your docs have been so wonderful! Glad you're getting to move forward rather quickly. I think the waiting is the hardest part!

 

[Stinas]

raelynn - Thank you! Im shocked myself that it has gone so fast. Im still not counting my chickens until the biopsy.

Deb - If you want to change the first page to Biopsy July 9.

 

[MJ73]

Hi girls, sorry a bit tired tonight for personals (I blame the progesterone)... But we have one beautiful A grade re-expanding blastocyst on board

Our little emby looks beautiful & sends lots of love to his/her Azoo Aunts. If you want to see a pic, please check out my journal. Here's praying that s/he loves her/his new home enough to stick around for the next 9 months...

Now for the dreaded 2ww OTD 21 June.

 

[Deb111]

I've updated front page Stinas and MJ xx

 

[SunUp]

HANG ON TANG! (for 9 months!)

 

[hopefulgirl1]

Hello ladies,

I'm new to forums so a liitle about my story. I'm 26 DH is 29 we have been TTC for two years since we been married. After trying for two years thought i'd go see my doc, he sent us both for tests DH had zero sperm count on both tests.
This broke his heart, thinks he has let me down I've never seen him soo depressed ever!

Wondering if any one could give us advise and share your experiences withnus. DH has been asked to go do a chromosome yes before sending us to a FS. What are our options of having a biological baby if his SA had zero sperm count?