Dealing with azoospermia?

[AuCa]

Fingers crossed for some good results!!

 

[Stinas]

keziah23 - Good luck!!!!


As for me....we should be getting DH's SA results tom! I am scared! I hope the surgery worked!

 

[awifey]

DH's surgery is tomorrow morning! I need to get to bed early since we have to be at the surgery center at 5:30am!

Best of luck!

 

[Deb111]

Best of luck sting and keziah x x

 

[MrsG30]

Hi Girls.....
I hope you don't mind me jumping in but i'm not sure where to turn.
A bit about me, i'm 30 married coming up 2 years and have pcos. Not Massively but its there and i'm currently on metformin. This i can deal with, got a bit of weight to lose but i WILL do that.
on Tuesday my hubby had the worst possible news from his SA. Nothing there! he is away from home with work so i yet to see him and hes (and me) are heartbroken. The Dr thinks its adult mumps related???
We have got an appointment in less than 2 weeks time which im thankful its sooooo soon with fertility specialists at the centre for life in Newcastle.
Ive been reading everything possible online but i'm just no sure what is next? how long this process takes and really what my expectations should be?
I've some of your success stories which have stopped the tears but i must say i feel like my world is crumbling on round me.
Hope ive posted in the right place.

ps ladies- your all very brave and its so nice to have found a little hope in what ive read so far

Dannii

 

[keziah23]

We're home, surgery went well. Surgeon came out and said she looked under microscope and thinks its either hypospermatogenesis or maturation arrest but will have to wait for pathology, which can take 2 weeks, to know for sure.
I got sooo pissed off. They brought me out the testis sample from the TESE and I rushed to get to the RE lab. Got over to the RE lab to drop off the tissue sample and the door was locked! I had to wait 10 minutes in a hallway trying to keep a human tissue sample at body temperature! Then the doctor there didn't know where the form I needed to sign was. Had to wait for office person who told me I was early!! I almost lost it.
Anyway, hubby is not in too much pain right now, he's lying down with an ice pack on and has only taken Tylenol so far. I'm going to go have a rest too.

 

[Deb111]

Glad hubby is ok keziah

MrsG - I'm so sorry but you have definitely come to the right place - this is a fab group and has grown so much more than i ever expected when i started it. That makes me very sad on one hand but very pleased that people have somewhere to go for support.

Fab news that you have an appt so soon. There is a list of questions in a spoiler on the front page for appts. You will go through every emotion possible in the next few weeks and months. Don't give up hope, but stay realistic too. I hope hubby is home with you soon x

 

[AuCa]

There is a list of questions in a spoiler on the front page for appts. You will go through every emotion possible in the next few weeks and months. Don't give up hope, but stay realistic too. I hope hubby is home with you soon x

Oh great, thanks for pointing that out (I totally missed that )! Since we're having our appt on Sunday, I think this will be very useful.

keziah - glad your DH is well Very annoying that the door was locked though. Seems like the place is not too organized.

MrsG30 - I'm new to the "azoo experience" as well, and I feel your pain Great that you got an appointment so soon! Here it is usually a forever wait (the clinic we got referred to currently has a wait time for about 4 months; since I was not willing to wait that long we set up a private consultation with another clinic out of province).
Since we are also just at the beginning of the journey I can't be of much help re how long this will take/where it will lead us. I guess it all just depends on what they find (what caused the azoo, can sperm be retrieved through TESE etc).

 

[Deb111]

Glad hubby is ok keziah

MrsG - I'm so sorry but you have definitely come to the right place - this is a fab group and has grown so much more than i ever expected when i started it. That makes me very sad on one hand but very pleased that people have somewhere to go for support.

Fab news that you have an appt so soon. There is a list of questions in a spoiler on the front page for appts. You will go through every emotion possible in the next few weeks and months. Don't give up hope, but stay realistic too. I hope hubby is home with you soon x

 

[MrsG30]

Glad hubby is ok keziah

MrsG - I'm so sorry but you have definitely come to the right place - this is a fab group and has grown so much more than i ever expected when i started it. That makes me very sad on one hand but very pleased that people have somewhere to go for support.

Fab news that you have an appt so soon. There is a list of questions in a spoiler on the front page for appts. You will go through every emotion possible in the next few weeks and months. Don't give up hope, but stay realistic too. I hope hubby is home with you soon x

Hi Hun
thanks for the reply- ok ill go have a look, i was so sure he would be ok as after his mumps he was told its so rare for it to damage you to this extent or especilly in both testes!!
Im currently sitting trying to pull myself together for when he get home in the next few hours!!!

im a bit confused why in the UK we would need to pay for things? i see its costing 1000's to our overseas buddies
is it because of waiting times? xxx

There is a list of questions in a spoiler on the front page for appts. You will go through every emotion possible in the next few weeks and months. Don't give up hope, but stay realistic too. I hope hubby is home with you soon x

Oh great, thanks for pointing that out (I totally missed that )! Since we're having our appt on Sunday, I think this will be very useful.

keziah - glad your DH is well Very annoying that the door was locked though. Seems like the place is not too organized.

MrsG30 - I'm new to the "azoo experience" as well, and I feel your pain Great that you got an appointment so soon! Here it is usually a forever wait (the clinic we got referred to currently has a wait time for about 4 months; since I was not willing to wait that long we set up a private consultation with another clinic out of province).
Since we are also just at the beginning of the journey I can't be of much help re how long this will take/where it will lead us. I guess it all just depends on what they find (what caused the azoo, can sperm be retrieved through TESE etc).

Auca- it nice (but awful for you) that you understand- i finding hard to come to term with, my mum keeps saying just wit until your appointment and you will feel more positive but i just cant help feeling like this, i dont want my hubby to think its him thats making me so sad, so im trying my best.

its such a mess xxx

 

[Deb111]

MrsG - we could have had one round of ivf on the nhs but they were so useless and told us adopting or donor were our only options. We found our own private urologist as we weren't prepared to give up. The urologist could have put us through on the nhs but a gynacologist would have done hubbys op?!?!?! And egg collection would have had to have been done on a given day of the week?!?

 

[AuCa]

Auca- it nice (but awful for you) that you understand- i finding hard to come to term with, my mum keeps saying just wit until your appointment and you will feel more positive but i just cant help feeling like this, i dont want my hubby to think its him thats making me so sad, so im trying my best.

its such a mess xxx

I think it's important to acknowledge that you have a right to feel the way you feel right now. People will always give advice (my mom is also great at that - keeps telling me that I shouldn't turn into "one of those crazy women"), but in reality they have never been in this situation and really have no right whatsoever to tell us how we should feel or shouldn't.
This is hard, and you have every right to be sad, angry, frustrated, confused, or whatever else, about it!

I'm sure your hubby feels very similar, he probably just doesn't show it the same way. My DH was devastated, still is. He first went into some sort of obsessive behavior, testing his sperm samples at home every day (that was back in December). At some time point he accepted that nothing changed, and he became sad, and also very insecure. I think he's still doubting if I'll stay with him, although I told him many times that it doesn't make a difference to me.

If things get really bad I'm also determined to drag DH to counseling. This is hard, but it shouldn't destroy our lives/relationships.

Anyway, just come here to vent, and be as emotional as you like I find forums very helpful since it's a topic you can't really discuss with many ppl in "real life".

 

[keziah23]

SOOOOO! The lab called. ANOTHER screw up!!!! They didn't order all the proper STD blood work in order to be able to put our vials in the 'clean' tank. First is was irritated, then when it sunk in what he was saying I asked "does that mean that you found some" and he said "I can't go into details until the doctor releases the report but yes, we found some" WOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO
So hubby has to get more blood work tomorrow.
There is still the freeze/thaw test to pass but this is the first good news we've had lately!

 

[Stinas]

keziah23 - YAY for finding sperm!!! woohooo

As for me...surgery didnt "Fix" DH! SA results came back the same today. We have an apt with the urologist on monday to see where we are going.....probably going to do another round of IVF with whatever frozen sperm we have left.

 

[AuCa]

Keziah - that's exciting!! I'm very happy for you guys!

Stinas - oh no Very sorry to hear that.

 

[MrsG30]

MrsG - we could have had one round of ivf on the nhs but they were so useless and told us adopting or donor were our only options. We found our own private urologist as we weren't prepared to give up. The urologist could have put us through on the nhs but a gynacologist would have done hubbys op?!?!?! And egg collection would have had to have been done on a given day of the week?!?

Deb, whats the reason for DH azoo? were yet to find out but pretty sure it due to mumps, spoke to his parents tonight who said money is no object if we need it.
Hubby seems more positive now he is home nd we've chatted- said we will do everything possible to get what we want, i hope after our first appointment we feel the same way. i'm going to try an keep the tears at bay for now.
can i ask how much it cost? and i presume your hubby had some sperms in there which they managed to use for ivf?

my hubby tonight said although he isnt keen on the donor idea he would be prepared for it, he even suggested his brothers?? is that odd? who we have to pay fot this?
sorry for all the questions xx

 

[MrsG30]

Auca- it nice (but awful for you) that you understand- i finding hard to come to term with, my mum keeps saying just wit until your appointment and you will feel more positive but i just cant help feeling like this, i dont want my hubby to think its him thats making me so sad, so im trying my best.

its such a mess xxx

I think it's important to acknowledge that you have a right to feel the way you feel right now. People will always give advice (my mom is also great at that - keeps telling me that I shouldn't turn into "one of those crazy women"), but in reality they have never been in this situation and really have no right whatsoever to tell us how we should feel or shouldn't.
This is hard, and you have every right to be sad, angry, frustrated, confused, or whatever else, about it!

I'm sure your hubby feels very similar, he probably just doesn't show it the same way. My DH was devastated, still is. He first went into some sort of obsessive behavior, testing his sperm samples at home every day (that was back in December). At some time point he accepted that nothing changed, and he became sad, and also very insecure. I think he's still doubting if I'll stay with him, although I told him many times that it doesn't make a difference to me.

If things get really bad I'm also determined to drag DH to counseling. This is hard, but it shouldn't destroy our lives/relationships.

Anyway, just come here to vent, and be as emotional as you like I find forums very helpful since it's a topic you can't really discuss with many ppl in "real life".

ah thanks for this.

hubby does seem positive Tonight, think we really needed to be together (he was away with work) and needed to talk.
app is on th 21st i hope we feel positive after seeing the specialist?!?!?
obviously i hope we can get some sperm fro y hubby if not we know donor is an option, he even suggested his brothers tonight????? is that odd?


i know even know what will happen at our 1st appointment, lt alone what tests will follow?!?!?!?!?

im sure u feel like me, im keeping the tears at bay for now
xxx

 

[AuCa]

Glad that you feel a bit better MrsG30!
I think it really entirely depends on what you guys are comfortable with. I've seen a few ppl (online) using donor sperm provided by immediate family (such as brothers). Personally, I'm not sure how I'd feel about that, but it's completely personal (I would also be fine with adopting for example). It's just very personal, and every couple needs to find their own solution I think

 

[raelynn]

MrsG - When we were first going down the donor route, we briefly considered hubby's brother too. We decided it wouldn't work for us though since his brother and sister-in-law are trying to have a baby too (with female infertility) and it might just be weird if we had a baby using his brother's sperm before they did. Completely a personal choice though. I can see how having a blood relative would be nice to 'keep it in the family' so to speak but I like having an anonymous donor since I feel we can completely separate ourselves from the donor and this is 100% our baby. I feel like we might always be reminded of the baby not being biologically ours if the donor was a family member. But again, I see the positives and negatives of both sides and it is a completely personal decision.

 

[MrsG30]

Glad that you feel a bit better MrsG30!
I think it really entirely depends on what you guys are comfortable with. I've seen a few ppl (online) using donor sperm provided by immediate family (such as brothers). Personally, I'm not sure how I'd feel about that, but it's completely personal (I would also be fine with adopting for example). It's just very personal, and every couple needs to find their own solution I think

MrsG - When we were first going down the donor route, we briefly considered hubby's brother too. We decided it wouldn't work for us though since his brother and sister-in-law are trying to have a baby too (with female infertility) and it might just be weird if we had a baby using his brother's sperm before they did. Completely a personal choice though. I can see how having a blood relative would be nice to 'keep it in the family' so to speak but I like having an anonymous donor since I feel we can completely separate ourselves from the donor and this is 100% our baby. I feel like we might always be reminded of the baby not being biologically ours if the donor was a family member. But again, I see the positives and negatives of both sides and it is a completely personal decision.

ah ladies thanks for this. to be honest its my hubby who has suggested the idea as he has this whole "it wont even look like me" thing going on!!!
it something to think about as im sure it will bee a while before it comes to that.
does either of you know what the process is at our 1st appointment?

and raelynn- how long has it taken since azoo confirmed to getting where you are now?

too you both xxx