Dealing with azoospermia?

[deafgal01]

Hopeful

 

[Rainbow123]

Hey ladies unfortunately after all the excitement and happiness of finding sperm in hubby and getting 2 embryos transferred it seems my first ivf cycle is a bust. Got af yesterday and a bfn on a hpt have blood test on saturday to conFirm. So i guess its down to our 2 frozen embryos and then another mtese if they fail too. Im feeling so disheartened.

So sorry to hear that Hopeful, but there is still hope! When do you get to try again? I've read that acupuncture can really increase the chances of IVF success. It might be rubbish, but similarly it might not! I'm sure you'll get pregnant next cycle, but that probably doesn't help how you're feeling now. Big hugs from me and I'm sure that in the very near future I will be reading BFP from you on here! Lots of love XXXXXXXX

 

[arzoo]

Hi, Just thought of checking in to see how you ladies are . I have another 10 days of agonising wait before we see the specialise. I know it is not as long as some of you had to wait. But I am so impatient that I am hating this limbo state before knowing answers to the question .... is there hope of every having our biological child.

 

[tulip11]

Hi my hubby previous blood tests results which was ordered by GP shows almost normal FSH he said that its a lil bit higher than normal range so according to him thats not so serious to take it....but now we ill get results of blood tests as ordered by urologist ...so my question is that is a lil difference of FSH shows something ? What I know that hubby has NOA as there is no blockage, normal flow of blood.

 

[arzoo]

Hi Tulip, sorry dont know if a little difference is an indication of anything, all I have read is , if FSH normal then azoo is cause of blockage and if FSH high then it indicates failure of the testis. You are best asking this question to the urologist. and if you dont mind , do share what you find out.

 

[tulip11]

Hi Tulip, sorry dont know if a little difference is an indication of anything, all I have read is , if FSH normal then azoo is cause of blockage and if FSH high then it indicates failure of the testis. You are best asking this question to the urologist. and if you dont mind , do share what you find out.

Yes dear we ill be having next appointment on 31st july huh I hate waiting...yes that made me confused because ultrasound shown no blockage, normal blood flow so that means its NOA. we ill get our urine, blood, two SA results in our next appointment.

 

[tulip11]

Hi Tulip, sorry dont know if a little difference is an indication of anything, all I have read is , if FSH normal then azoo is cause of blockage and if FSH high then it indicates failure of the testis. You are best asking this question to the urologist. and if you dont mind , do share what you find out.

Yes dear we ill be having next appointment on 31st july huh I hate waiting..yes definitly i ill share with you guys...yes that made me confused because ultrasound shown no blockage, normal blood flow so that means its NOA. we ill get our urine, blood, two SA results in our next appointment.

 

[AuCa]

Hi Tulip, sorry dont know if a little difference is an indication of anything, all I have read is , if FSH normal then azoo is cause of blockage and if FSH high then it indicates failure of the testis. You are best asking this question to the urologist. and if you dont mind , do share what you find out.

Not necessarily. And there is also quite a range for what is "normal FSH". My DH doesn't have high FSH (it's in the reference range of what is officially considered "normal"), but he also has no blockages. We had every test done there is, and no cause for his condition found (he's not 100% azoospermic, but has a count of max. 300 or so, so extremely low).

The frustrating thing is - in most cases they never figure out what causes the azoospermia.

 

[Rainbow123]

Hi, Just thought of checking in to see how you ladies are . I have another 10 days of agonising wait before we see the specialise. I know it is not as long as some of you had to wait. But I am so impatient that I am hating this limbo state before knowing answers to the question .... is there hope of every having our biological child.

We've just found out our urologist appointment is on the 15th July! So glad it's only 2 and a half weeks away, thought it was going to be longer. It is awful having to wait when all you want to do is ask questions and get the ball rolling. My DH has slightly elevated FSH levels, and has been told it's NOA, ultrasound last Monday showed up calcification in one of his testicles which is what shows up if you've had mumps, apparently. He doesn't remember having mumps, but who knows! It's definitely testicular failure anyway. Back to what you were saying about biological child, you won't really know until they get in there and have a look I'm afraid. Dr Ramsay will probably be able to tell you the likelihood, but from what I've read there is no way of being able to know until you do the mTESE. I'm a bit nervous about our urologist appointment at Leeds, as we only got it so that we could discuss mTESE because I pushed. Our FS didn't even give it as an option, she'd said they only way we could go was to go straight for donor sperm. I'm so glad that I'd found this site and been able to absorb all the information, so that I could quite confidently say that I knew mTESEs were an option. She's referred us to see whether they will agree to do one, so this is not necessarily going to be an appointment to schedule a mTESE, rather to see whether it's worth doing (?). I think it's all rather strange.. we'll have to see!
Anyhoo, hope you can find some way of distracting yourself Arzoo! Just try to schedule in some fun time with your hubby and friends and keep busy!
Lots of love to one and all XXXXXXXXXXXXX

 

[AuCa]

. My DH has slightly elevated FSH levels, and has been told it's NOA, ultrasound last Monday showed up calcification in one of his testicles which is what shows up if you've had mumps, apparently. He doesn't remember having mumps, but who knows! It's definitely testicular failure anyway.

Same for mine (forgot about that). There was some kind of "heterogeneity" showing up on the ultrasound which could be an indication of mumps or some other childhood infection. But we went back to check his vaccination records, and DH was vaccinated against mumps as a baby, so very unlikely that that was the reason.

Haven't been around here much lately, but I just wanted to say to everybody - it WILL get better. We're about to start IVF #1, and even with the stress of IVF I feel a million times better compared to how I felt during the entire testing stages, when we had no idea what was going on, or if we could even do IVF with ICSI etc.

 

[Rainbow123]

Good luck with the IVF AuCa! Glad you're feeling less stressed now things are in motion. XXX

 

[SunUp]

Just thought I'd pop in and say baby sunup is here, check my journal for more info! He is amazing! Stay strong ladies this page was a huge support for me, I hope my story can give some inspiration! Xo

 

[Rainbow123]

Just thought I'd pop in and say baby sunup is here, check my journal for more info! He is amazing! Stay strong ladies this page was a huge support for me, I hope my story can give some inspiration! Xo

Congratulation SunUp, that's fantastic news! Thank you for sharing and wishing you every happiness with your new family! XXXXX

 

[rdleela]

Yes dear we ill be having next appointment on 31st july huh I hate waiting..yes definitly i ill share with you guys...yes that made me confused because ultrasound shown no blockage, normal blood flow so that means its NOA. we ill get our urine, blood, two SA results in our next appointment.

My DH had a blockage, and it did not show up on a trans-rectal u/s nor a testicular u/s. My DH's blockage consisted of scar tissue that had built up and "squeezed off" any sperm from coming out - excuse my non-medical term! lol (scarring was from 2 surgeries he had down there as a child)

All my DH's bloodwork came back normal, like I said u/s all normal, biopsy came back with finding sperm, it wasn't until he had his surgery to repair the blockage that they really got in there and found all the scarring. And they were able to repair him, and now we have increasing counts of sperm!

 

[MoBaby]

my DH has a repeat SA wednesday after being on hcg and clomid for 6-7 weeks to see if any improvement. Not being too hopeful but hopefully whats there will be better to use if for some reason our upcoming FET fails. If they do find anything more than what he had been producing we are going to request they freeze the sample.

 

[MrsG30]

Auca- Good Luck honey.
Sunup-congrats flower, bet he's gorg.

AFM: our donor had his first app last week and goes this Friday to give us 1st sample for testing. so at least were moving forward.
We got Tuesday to see whats next and hopefully get a treatment plan/timescale.

Feel happier its coming together, although I know we have a long way to go.

How is everyone? Love to all xxx

 

[AuCa]

My DH had a blockage, and it did not show up on a trans-rectal u/s nor a testicular u/s. My DH's blockage consisted of scar tissue that had built up and "squeezed off" any sperm from coming out - excuse my non-medical term! lol (scarring was from 2 surgeries he had down there as a child)

Interesting. Did he have a low ejaculate volume? We were always told that if there was a blockage they would likely see a low-ish volume of ejaculate, but I always wondered if that's true.

 

[arzoo]

Auca that is an interesting point you make about the volume. My DH has considerably low volume but his FSH is high which indicates tesicular failure over blockage. We are in the limbo state still waiting to see the specialist. I will post a note if I get to know something from the specialist.
Also, has anyone come across any connection between Azoo and size of the testicles?

 

[MadCatLady]

Hi all. Well we found out this morning that DH has Klinefelter's syndrome (XXY). Glad we had an idea that this might be coming - although we only had an inkling by doing our own research. Arzoo, this syndrome has a connection between size of testicles and Azoo, men with Klinefelter's tend to have small testicles. I wouldn't know about any other conditions that have a connection though I'm afraid.

DH is upset understandably, obviously because of the infertility but also I think it is because the diagnosis of other specialists to look at hormones and GP want to keep an eye on his heart and have increased risk of osteoporosis etc. He doesn't like anything to do with health issues/hospitals at the best of times! Least we have this knowledge before we see fertility clinic in two weeks time I guess. just not too sure what this means for us IVF / assisted conception wise.

 

[rdleela]

My DH had a blockage, and it did not show up on a trans-rectal u/s nor a testicular u/s. My DH's blockage consisted of scar tissue that had built up and "squeezed off" any sperm from coming out - excuse my non-medical term! lol (scarring was from 2 surgeries he had down there as a child)

Interesting. Did he have a low ejaculate volume? We were always told that if there was a blockage they would likely see a low-ish volume of ejaculate, but I always wondered if that's true.

Yes, his volume was considered on the low side, and that's because the only thing that was ejaculating was stuff produced by the prostate, and of course, nothing from the testis.

His volume is actually still on the low side, even though we now have sperm.
Maybe because he's actually only producing from one testicle? (total guess) his other one never formed properly due to all the scarring from those surgeries as a child.