Dealing with azoospermia?
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Well ladies, EC went well and we got 10 eggs! Quite pleased with that, although a couple more would have been nice, i am greedy!
SSR went okay, ben feeling a bit sore but not as bad as he thought so far. Anyway against all odds they did actually find a reasonable number of sperm, however they were all pretty rubbish and not properly formed etc, she said they didn't know whether or not they would fertilise the eggs and they pretty much encouraged us to use the donor. I would have let my heart rule and tried ben's sperm, but ben was very sensible and asked them about odds etc and they said that the best chance of success would be to use the donor, so that is what he decided. He was so brave and strong, he said he wants us to get pregnant therefore that is what he felt was best. So it was all a bit shocking really as neither of us expected that they would find any - good or bad quality as they only gave a 25% chance, so we weren't actually having to expect making a decision!
So we've gone a head with the donor and we're both okay with that. And at the end of the day who knows, maybe in a few years time they would be able to do something with the dodgy sperm, by then though i'm sure it won't matter to us as i hope we will have our baby by then.
So we will find out between 8-10am in the morning how many have fertilised and whether we will be able to go to blast - either way it'll either be transfer on Saturday or Tuesday. Fingers crossed for us! xxx
SSR went okay, ben feeling a bit sore but not as bad as he thought so far. Anyway against all odds they did actually find a reasonable number of sperm, however they were all pretty rubbish and not properly formed etc, she said they didn't know whether or not they would fertilise the eggs and they pretty much encouraged us to use the donor. I would have let my heart rule and tried ben's sperm, but ben was very sensible and asked them about odds etc and they said that the best chance of success would be to use the donor, so that is what he decided. He was so brave and strong, he said he wants us to get pregnant therefore that is what he felt was best. So it was all a bit shocking really as neither of us expected that they would find any - good or bad quality as they only gave a 25% chance, so we weren't actually having to expect making a decision!
So we've gone a head with the donor and we're both okay with that. And at the end of the day who knows, maybe in a few years time they would be able to do something with the dodgy sperm, by then though i'm sure it won't matter to us as i hope we will have our baby by then.
So we will find out between 8-10am in the morning how many have fertilised and whether we will be able to go to blast - either way it'll either be transfer on Saturday or Tuesday. Fingers crossed for us! xxx
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Hey girls, we got 8 mature eggs and 6 have fertilised so the clinic are hoping for some blasts, transfer will be on Tuesday, they're gonna ring us on Sunday and update us as to how they're doing, so trying to relax now and rest up. Both still very sore today but were doing good!
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Hi ladies, we had the scan yesterday, sorry I did mention the wrong date, we have the pre-op meeting on 18th. The scan was no good really - it showed nothing at all - no probems, no blockages, everything is doing what is should everything looks normal. So it is all a mystery. I am thinking that surely if there is nothing wrong, then this is pointing to him not producing the sperm. However the doctor who did the scan said that his balls have not shrunk, which normally shows that a man is not producing sperm. So that is a little hope.
The op is booked for the 1st September, but I am thinking we are heading towards a bad result, If he is producing them then surley the would be coming out?!?!
Unfortunately he can't get his head around a donor, but I think he might change if we do get a bad result, otherwise he is asking me never to have a baby, and I can't do that! I have looked after his son for the last ten years, so - how can I find the words without sounding horrible - so this would be like him looking after a baby that was mine, but of course it wouldn't be just mine it would be ours - his, even if not biologically! But of course this isn't the dream - I want his child no anyone elses!
Anyway onwards with the waiting game!!!
How are things going with you?
The op is booked for the 1st September, but I am thinking we are heading towards a bad result, If he is producing them then surley the would be coming out?!?!
Unfortunately he can't get his head around a donor, but I think he might change if we do get a bad result, otherwise he is asking me never to have a baby, and I can't do that! I have looked after his son for the last ten years, so - how can I find the words without sounding horrible - so this would be like him looking after a baby that was mine, but of course it wouldn't be just mine it would be ours - his, even if not biologically! But of course this isn't the dream - I want his child no anyone elses!
Anyway onwards with the waiting game!!!
How are things going with you?
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It's so frustrating when nothing is showing up one way or the other. Have they checked his urine straight after he gives a semen sample? I read somewhere that there can be a problem with a valve I think and the sperm are released into the bowel instead.
I have to say I agree with you about raising your hubby's son. But the difference here would be that it was something you embarked on together. Ok it wouldn't biologically be his child, but he would be there from the minute you conceived, the scans, through the whole pregnancy, the birth, it's first smile, it's first words etc. It would grow up with both yours and your husbands values. I can't help but feel that has to be less of a challenge than someone bringing up someone else's child from part way through their lives
Sending you lots of hugs - we all know what a difficult time this is for you xx
I have to say I agree with you about raising your hubby's son. But the difference here would be that it was something you embarked on together. Ok it wouldn't biologically be his child, but he would be there from the minute you conceived, the scans, through the whole pregnancy, the birth, it's first smile, it's first words etc. It would grow up with both yours and your husbands values. I can't help but feel that has to be less of a challenge than someone bringing up someone else's child from part way through their lives
Sending you lots of hugs - we all know what a difficult time this is for you xx
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Hi Deb, thanks for your comforting words, I know - as always, think positive and hope for the best.
Yes he has done all the blood tests etc. They have not checked the urine, but I read about that, but he gets - stuff - coming out, and there is a good amout, so I don't think it applies - but thanks for the idea
Good luck to you too!
Yes he has done all the blood tests etc. They have not checked the urine, but I read about that, but he gets - stuff - coming out, and there is a good amout, so I don't think it applies - but thanks for the idea
Good luck to you too!
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Hi
Ladies just read all the back posts and although i wouldnt wish what we are going through on anybody in the world it is a comfort having people out there going through the same thing!! i know that may sound so horrible and selfish!!
Well here is my story:
Me 25 W 27 we have been TTC for 2 years now. i had bloods, scans, HCG etc and everything was coming back ok. I broached the subject with W about getting his sperm tested something which i expected to be a lot harder then it was but he just went along with. I think we both knew there was going to be an issue with him because we were doing everything so right and i was fine and OVing really regular.
I think it was in june both SA came back with 0 sperm.
we had an appointment with the urologist end of july who felt around and took some bloods. he said everything felt normal as apparently testicles can sometimes have different textures! W has a thing that his 'balls' are small. (i have read about this online and what it can mean but havent told him) but the urologist said they were normal sized! but tbh honest i kind of dont know whether to belive him or not as he said he couldnt really tell us much just referred us for a scan and then told us to go back to GP to get refferred to Queens Marys fertility clinic in Manchester.
so this is where we are at at the moment: Ultrasound scan booked for fri 3rd Sept
then back to GP for joint referral to fertility clinic.
The only thing that i am annoyed about is the blood results will of gone back to the GP by now and W keeps saying he is too busy to phone up for them!! slightly annoying but not much we can do with what they say anyway not going to push him will just wait for scan results i think!!!
W has become very worried about my safety and what people are thinking about him. He has been getting very upset about not producing any sperm and also said he isnt a real man and just wants the chance to have 1 child. he gets really upset whenever his 4 month old nephew is around and most times has to leave the room when i am holding him.
Has anyone else gone from urologist to fertility clinic? i am wondering who will do the SSR? W had 1 undecended testicle he had pulled down when he was 7 but other then that nothing no mumps. no major groin injuries etc. urologist was interested in the fact he had been on a life support machine when he was about 13 after falling off a rope swing and was in a coma for a few days. but then didnt say anything about why he was interested?!
sorry rambled on for a long time there!! i just feel like we dont really know what is going on sometimes!!
Thanks for listening!!!! hope you are all well!!
x x
Ladies just read all the back posts and although i wouldnt wish what we are going through on anybody in the world it is a comfort having people out there going through the same thing!! i know that may sound so horrible and selfish!!
Well here is my story:
Me 25 W 27 we have been TTC for 2 years now. i had bloods, scans, HCG etc and everything was coming back ok. I broached the subject with W about getting his sperm tested something which i expected to be a lot harder then it was but he just went along with. I think we both knew there was going to be an issue with him because we were doing everything so right and i was fine and OVing really regular.
I think it was in june both SA came back with 0 sperm.
we had an appointment with the urologist end of july who felt around and took some bloods. he said everything felt normal as apparently testicles can sometimes have different textures! W has a thing that his 'balls' are small. (i have read about this online and what it can mean but havent told him) but the urologist said they were normal sized! but tbh honest i kind of dont know whether to belive him or not as he said he couldnt really tell us much just referred us for a scan and then told us to go back to GP to get refferred to Queens Marys fertility clinic in Manchester.
so this is where we are at at the moment: Ultrasound scan booked for fri 3rd Sept
then back to GP for joint referral to fertility clinic.
The only thing that i am annoyed about is the blood results will of gone back to the GP by now and W keeps saying he is too busy to phone up for them!! slightly annoying but not much we can do with what they say anyway not going to push him will just wait for scan results i think!!!
W has become very worried about my safety and what people are thinking about him. He has been getting very upset about not producing any sperm and also said he isnt a real man and just wants the chance to have 1 child. he gets really upset whenever his 4 month old nephew is around and most times has to leave the room when i am holding him.
Has anyone else gone from urologist to fertility clinic? i am wondering who will do the SSR? W had 1 undecended testicle he had pulled down when he was 7 but other then that nothing no mumps. no major groin injuries etc. urologist was interested in the fact he had been on a life support machine when he was about 13 after falling off a rope swing and was in a coma for a few days. but then didnt say anything about why he was interested?!
sorry rambled on for a long time there!! i just feel like we dont really know what is going on sometimes!!
Thanks for listening!!!! hope you are all well!!
x x
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Hi there; I remember your posts from a couple of months ago; wondered how you were getting on!
It is totally frustrating not knowing, I know how you feel. We were lucky in that our urologist was a male infertility specialist & knew loads about it. DH's testicles were normal sized & he expected to get sperm, but there wasn't any. It's sertoli cell only sundrome that he has, either from birth or from the severe mumps he had.
Hope you get some answers soon, just keep phoning & pestering them; I did!!!
It is totally frustrating not knowing, I know how you feel. We were lucky in that our urologist was a male infertility specialist & knew loads about it. DH's testicles were normal sized & he expected to get sperm, but there wasn't any. It's sertoli cell only sundrome that he has, either from birth or from the severe mumps he had.
Hope you get some answers soon, just keep phoning & pestering them; I did!!!
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lol! think thats a good description of the group!!
Urologist said we wouldnt be seeing him again but was thinking thats maybe because the fertility clinic is such a big one
This is their website and it is unbeliveably helpful i am feeling full of positvity now they will be able to help us:
https://www.cmft.nhs.uk/directorates/ivf/firstreatment.asp
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Urologist said we wouldnt be seeing him again but was thinking thats maybe because the fertility clinic is such a big one
This is their website and it is unbeliveably helpful i am feeling full of positvity now they will be able to help us:
https://www.cmft.nhs.uk/directorates/ivf/firstreatment.asp
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We also saw a urologist, but to be honest although he was very nice it wasn't very useful. He checked DH's testicles and said they seemed normal and did hormone blood test and ordered U/S scan which showed nothing to note, and in the meantime our GP referred us to the fertility clinic, we saw them very quickly and then started the road towards the IVF with SSR on day of egg collection. We were lucky, it's all happened quickly for us, just waiting to poas now!
Jo - you start on the 6th Sept? That has to be a good sign for you, it'll be our 2nd wedding anniversary!
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Jo - you start on the 6th Sept? That has to be a good sign for you, it'll be our 2nd wedding anniversary!
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Really? Excellent! Plus, a pretty amazing wedding anniversary for you if you get a bfp just before it!!!
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Good luck for tomorrow Step Mummy, hope you get some good news, will be thinking of you.
Well as most of you girls know, we tested on Friday and got a BFP! Official test was yesterday, done 7 tests so far still not convinced! And got 1st scan booked for 23rd Sept, please go fast september?!
Hope everyone else okay?? xxx
Well as most of you girls know, we tested on Friday and got a BFP! Official test was yesterday, done 7 tests so far still not convinced! And got 1st scan booked for 23rd Sept, please go fast september?!
Hope everyone else okay?? xxx
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Hi Loubylou, great news, well done, I hope the tests are correct!
Thanks to you all for your best wishes, DH has gone in this morning, but they would not let me wait, so I have come in to work to try to kill some time, I cant wait to hear from the hospital to tell me he has come round, you always worry about something going wrong.
Hi waiting ginger - welcome to the club!! It sounds as though you have a similar story to me, however my DH has a 18yr old son, so we know that they were there once! But he has nothing coming out at all, the scan showed nothing up, and the specialists cannot find anything. Good luck with his scan on Friday, I hope you get told something, as we got told there was nothing at all wrong, everything was normal, I was hoping that they'd find something like a blockage so that this would indicate the sperm are there. Dont tell your DH, but my DH said that having the probe put up his bum was not very nice and a bit painful, I think they used the same internal ultrasound scanner that they use on us ladies!! but he did not like it at all and said it was quite uncomfortable (but he does have a low pain threshold!), however he was only in there for 10-15 mins, so its not too long. I know that the recovery from his op will be much much worse, poor thing. I just hope it is worth his pain. Like you my DH has taken it badly that he can't give me a baby naturally, especially when he already had one and he kept me waiting for 6 years!!!
I guess like me you have struggled to deal with not being able to get pregnant naturally now, and that the only way you will have one is through the hospital, and that is the best we can hope for. Otherwise we have to make the decision about a Donor, which for us is seeming like a very hard path, as DH is not keen on that at all.
Good luck for Friday, I hope you get some positive news - whatever that may be! I will let you all know how I get on,
XXX
Thanks to you all for your best wishes, DH has gone in this morning, but they would not let me wait, so I have come in to work to try to kill some time, I cant wait to hear from the hospital to tell me he has come round, you always worry about something going wrong.
Hi waiting ginger - welcome to the club!! It sounds as though you have a similar story to me, however my DH has a 18yr old son, so we know that they were there once! But he has nothing coming out at all, the scan showed nothing up, and the specialists cannot find anything. Good luck with his scan on Friday, I hope you get told something, as we got told there was nothing at all wrong, everything was normal, I was hoping that they'd find something like a blockage so that this would indicate the sperm are there. Dont tell your DH, but my DH said that having the probe put up his bum was not very nice and a bit painful, I think they used the same internal ultrasound scanner that they use on us ladies!! but he did not like it at all and said it was quite uncomfortable (but he does have a low pain threshold!), however he was only in there for 10-15 mins, so its not too long. I know that the recovery from his op will be much much worse, poor thing. I just hope it is worth his pain. Like you my DH has taken it badly that he can't give me a baby naturally, especially when he already had one and he kept me waiting for 6 years!!!
I guess like me you have struggled to deal with not being able to get pregnant naturally now, and that the only way you will have one is through the hospital, and that is the best we can hope for. Otherwise we have to make the decision about a Donor, which for us is seeming like a very hard path, as DH is not keen on that at all.
Good luck for Friday, I hope you get some positive news - whatever that may be! I will let you all know how I get on,
XXX
