Disco Derail! - TTCAL/PAL Discussion and Support!

[msarkozi]

Hearty - I am glad your friend was able to reach out to you. It makes it so much easier when you can talk to someone that has gone through the same thing as you, as we all know here. Your good news is coming soon hun! Hang in there

 

[Megg33k]

Megg, I want to shake a little sense into you right now....

YOU'VE GOTTEN PREGNANT TWICE! That means his sperm are good enough. They are getting the job done without any assistance. Now you are about to increase your chances. I'm quite sure they'll get the job done again sweets.

I just got two emails today. One from a very good friend who is divorced with a 5 year old. She never thought she'd get married again and she wants to have another baby. She's 38 so that makes it more stressful. She just got proposed to today!

The second email broke my heart. It was from a friend who I haven't seen for a while. She just had a D&C yesterday after finding out her bean at 8.5 weeks wasn't viable. It is her first loss. A mutual friend of ours had told her about my losses and she reached out to me. This is the first friend I've had in my life to go through this. I feel strong enough now to help support her. I'm so glad she reached out to me, but so sad she had to.

Strange how life works. Good and bad news. We all have it. We are all destined to have both. Me? I'm ready for my good news.

Thank you! I'm trying!

I'm glad you can be there for your friend! I'm sure she really needs you right now! Good and bad... always!

Maybe they are still able to get some info from it?? I honestly have no idea....I think those babies are coming Meg. Just don't give up on yourself and stay determined. Everything is so much easier said then done though of course.

Definitely easier said than done!!! I hope you're right!

And it was from Sunday morning at ~3am until Thursday morning at ~8am. That's a solid 4 days + 5 hours. Maybe they'd have been better at 2-3 days?

Hell yeah they would have been better at 2-3 days! Those sperm were old men by the time they were looked at. When Tim had his done, they wanted his sperm within 30 minutes of ejaculation. 30 minutes! You are going to be fine.

No, honey! The sample wasn't from Sunday. The sample got to them within 30 min. I meant that it had been since Sun @ ~3am that he had last ejaculated prior to his ejaculation this morning at ~8am!

 

[heart tree]

OH!!! I was thinking HUH??? Why would they wait that long!!!

I still think the window that he waited was long. I just looked at Tim's (yes, apparently I carry his SA results with me) and his was 3 days of abstinence.

 

[Megg33k]

OH!!! I was thinking HUH??? Why would they wait that long!!!

I still think the window that he waited was long. I just looked at Tim's (yes, apparently I carry his SA results with me) and his was 3 days of abstinence.

3 is more normal than 4.25. They say that it goes down after 3 pretty drastically. Also, the internet says improper stimulation can produce poor results... and nerves/pressure of performing can make it worse. Well, this was LOTS of improper stimulation and pressure. He said he thought it might not be great, as it didn't feel like a normal time.

 

[LucyJ]

everyone

Hearty I think thats great that you can be there for your friend and her for you. I told a friend of mine what I had been through and she confided in me that she had been through the same literaly a month before she hadn't told anyone apart from her family but wanted to tell me so I knew she understood and was there, although I hate that she went through it having her there was a great support for me. I know she is there and always will be and I hope I have been able to provide support for her aswell.

When Steve had his SA done they said there had to be at least 2 days between his sample at last time he ejaculated. We had 30 mins to get it to the hospital which isn't easy as we live about 30 mins away from it!! We never knew results of his first one (if there were any) as he had to repeat it they never said why but results of second one were ok.

 

[roonsma]

Hearty, i think your friend is lucky to have you to support her, you are so kind and have a lovely way with words. You definately deserve your good news soon hun xx

Megg, i wouldn't worry to much about your hubbys sample, as the others have said you've got pregnant twice and it doesn't sound like it was "done!" under perfect conditions. xx

 

[heart tree]

I just got a call from Member Services about the complaint I filed about the stupid lab worker who took my blood. She was HORRIFIED by the lab worker's comments. She told me that she read my complaint and had to "jump on it immediately" because my story touched her so much. She even told me she had a miscarriage herself and couldn't imagine someone saying such things. She called the worker's manager immediately and the manager will be having a word with the worker. She said the manager was equally as horrified. The manager will also call me to apologize. She was so incredibly kind and apologetic. I feel so much better. It is so nice to be validated so strongly. Yay!

 

[msarkozi]

Glad they acted on it Hearty

 

[heart tree]

Me too Mel. I just got a call from the manager as well. She couldn't believe her worker said such idiotic things. She said that what the woman said to me was the worst thing she had ever heard!

 

[heart tree]

I'm a bit of a mess right now. My FS just emailed me and said that my HSG shows that I have a gentle curve at the top of my uterine cavity, but not one that seems overly excessive. He said this was not correctable by surgery. He said it was unclear by the HSG if I had a uterine septum which is corrected by surgery. Now he wants to do an MRI to determine. Either option sounds awful to me. A mild curve could be the reason for my mcs and there is nothing they can do about it. A septum means surgery on my uterus. I can't even fathom that. Oh god, this feels like it's never going to happen for me.

 

[heart tree]

I just spoke to my FS. He is lovely. He said he can't rule anything out. It may be a heart shaped uterus, it may be a uterine septum or it may be a normal curve. Given all of my losses, he said he just wants to chase down the cause of them. He said if it is heart shaped, the best way to have a baby is to use someone else's uterus or keep getting pregnant and know that I have big chance of another mc. If it is a uterine septum, surgery is very easy apparently. If it is normal, well, then it is normal. He said there is a chance the MRI won't show results and they might have to do surgery anyway. He doesn't want to do that until we have to. I really, really, really hope my results are normal or it is a uterine septum. I'll schedule the MRI tomorrow hopefully.

 

[Jaymes]

Good luck Hearty. I hope it turns out to be very minor.

 

[Megg33k]

I hope its normal or the easy fix, Hearty!!! I truly hope its a non-factor... but I'd be happy to loan you my uterus if I ever get this figured out and you need it!

 

[Allie84]

Whew. Not a good day all around, eh? Mine sucked too, but not in comparison to anything fertility related. My car broke down in a puff of smoke on the road and I had to fork over $250 to get some pump fixed. Then I got a new cell phone, which I paid $110 for on Ebay, in the mail and excitedly took it to get switched onto my plan and the phone doesn't work! Screwed over on ebay.

Hearty, best of luck with the MRI. Your FS sounds really on top of things and really thorough. I hope it's normal or the septum, as well! I'm glad the doctor's office took your complaint seriously and validated your feelings. You were so right to complain and now the worker will be spoken to and hopefully never offend another woman in such a way again.

Megg, sorry to hear you didn't get the best results but I agree with the other ladies that since you've already been pregnant, that doesn't seem to be a problem. Also the days that lapsed sound like they really could have affected it. Try not worry as you go forward, no point stressing before the IUI. The pen doesn't look too bad.

Mel, sorry you're not feeling so well again and got a crappy night's sleep. I hope you get a better night's sleep tonight!

Cesca, bummer about the morning sickness but at least your full of symptom-ness now!

 

[msarkozi]

Good Luck Hearty...hope it's just minor!

Allie, sorry you had a crappy day.

I am heading to bed soon, but I don't think I will be seeing much sleep in my future again tonight A friend just phoned me though and told me she was talking with a lady in town, and they want me to go visit her. Apparently she is able to massage my sinuses to get them to drain and what not, so hopefully on Monday after I get back from visiting my parents. I will be leaving tomorrow afternoon for the weekend, so I won't be around until after I get home again...But I will check in before I leave

Have a good night everyone

 

[Megg33k]

Aww... That sucks about your car, hun!

The pen doesn't look too bad because you can't see the needle!!!

HERE IT IS:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4LOl7WqbF7g/S39z7s4pn_I/AAAAAAAADPs/yPyKsF7wFWc/s400/IMG_1210.JPG

That's about twice the size of the pen when I hold it up to the pic.

 

[vickyd]

Hearty hun so sorry about all this damn stress youre going through....I really hope that the MRI clears things up, im tempted to ask why they cant still diagnose after the hsg...Why do they perform this procedure if they cant read the results? Maybe you can take the hsg to someone else for a second opinion? Do you want to mail it to me and i can show it to some specialists here? Im here for you no matter what!

Megg, i agree 100% with Hearty, since youve already been preggo twice Kevin's sperm is fine. END OF STORY

Allie ive had days like that too, its best to crawl back in bed before something else happens lol!

 

[heart tree]

Thanks Vicky, I don't have the images though. They do the HSG to make sure the tubes are clear, which mine are. An HSG can also show a severe bicornuate uterus (heart shaped uterus). But mine isn't severe, so it makes it harder to diagnose. An HSG doesn't show a uterine septum usually. I've read a lot about this and it is quite common to misdiagnose a uterine septum with a bicornuate uterus. I've read that often, women are just diagnosed with the bicornuate uterus without further exploration. Turns out they actually have a uterine septum which is easy to fix with minor surgery. Sadly, they don't get further attention and end up having multiple mcs. I feel lucky that my FS is taking out all the stops and charging forward. He is determined to find a reason for my mcs. If I hadn't had 3 mcs in a row, he might not be as aggressive. But he said given my history he doesn't want to take any more risks. It also could be that the HSG is actually showing an accurate picture. Just a slight indent in the top of my uterus. In that case, he said that would be normal. An MRI will give him a clearer picture of all of those options and hopefully give us a definite answer. I hope this made sense, it is late at night and I'm about to go to bed.

I'm trying to stay positive, but it is really hard. This is all getting to be a little too much. The only good thing is when I was crying about it, Tim asked if there was any way they could just put the embryo in the right place. I told him that was what IVF did. He has been so against it in the past. I told him it was about $20,000 and we don't have insurance coverage. All of a sudden he was trying to brain storm ways to get coverage for it. I couldn't believe it! He totally changed his tune. At least I know he is willing to take that path with me. And honestly, we do have the money. We've been saving to buy a house, but I'd rather rent for the rest of my life with my child than own a house. I think Tim feels the same way. I'm no where near deciding to do IVF, but at least I know my man is on board to go to any length.

Have a wonderful Friday everyone.

xoxo

 

[vickyd]

Ok now i understand a bit more Heart....
Give Tim a big hug from me for being such a wonderful guy!!!!
Try and keep positive hun, i know its hard but hopefully soon you will get your answers....

 

[prgirl_cesca]

Hearty my mum had a heart shaped uterus, which they found when she finally had a hysterectomy in her late 40s because of her painful periods (do you get awful AF pain? As in having to stay home all the time?) and they were very surprised that she managed to carry three children to term. So it can happen hearty, please don't lose hope.

ETA: My mum's also wasn't just heart shaped, it actually had two seperate chambers!