EDL nonsense.

[Abigailly]

I clearly stated the fact it was copy and paste as I can't be bothered to argue about religion!

Just because you have the "likes" and support from a cliquey group of women, doesn't make anyone right. Anyone who has a different point of viewing here, wow!! God forbid!!

Well, you eat what you like then. I do not want to be buying halal meat, nor do I want to be unwillingly sold it in the supermarket and restaurants thank you, and I think people who don't want to have a right to be upset. You should research into Zakat and how buying halal indirectly supports and funds terrorism. Not to mention marginalising the work place as only MUSLIMS can carry out the slaughter in halal accredited houses. Only 4.8% of the UK is Muslim, so this is creating division and is unfair. What happens to all the non Muslims jobs? What happened to freedom of choice? Tax and VAT are issues too, it's a whole can of worms, not just people bashing Islam and Muslims. There are hugely valid points, and I would love for you to come and air your views and opinions on sites and with people I know x

What in His name are you talking about?! What 'likes'?! I hardly go back through my comments to see who 'has my back'. I'm perfectly comfortable in my own opinion to not need to check on that kind of thing.

You copied and pasted a huge comment on my religion with, what I'd consider to be, some fairly false assumptions. Why would I not defend it in a debate I was already involved in?

I've noticed your 'don't pick on me attitude' several times. If you don't like people expressing their opinions, don't enter the debate section.

 

[Paloma123]

I clearly stated the fact it was copy and paste as I can't be bothered to argue about religion!

Just because you have the "likes" and support from a cliquey group of women, doesn't make anyone right. Anyone who has a different point of viewing here, wow!! God forbid!!

Well, you eat what you like then. I do not want to be buying halal meat, nor do I want to be unwillingly sold it in the supermarket and restaurants thank you, and I think people who don't want to have a right to be upset. You should research into Zakat and how buying halal indirectly supports and funds terrorism. Not to mention marginalising the work place as only MUSLIMS can carry out the slaughter in halal accredited houses. Only 4.8% of the UK is Muslim, so this is creating division and is unfair. What happens to all the non Muslims jobs? What happened to freedom of choice? Tax and VAT are issues too, it's a whole can of worms, not just people bashing Islam and Muslims. There are hugely valid points, and I would love for you to come and air your views and opinions on sites and with people I know x

What in His name are you talking about?! What 'likes'?! I hardly go back through my comments to see who 'has my back'. I'm perfectly comfortable in my own opinion to not need to check on that kind of thing.

You copied and pasted a huge comment on my religion with, what I'd consider to be, some fairly false assumptions. Why would I not defend it in a debate I was already involved in?

I've noticed your 'don't pick on me attitude' several times. If you don't like people expressing their opinions, don't enter the debate section.

Why aren't you differing with emyandpotato then who says he's not an idol? It's like your choosing your battles here to suit. I didn't come here for a debate and to have an argument on theology actually, I came to point across a point that there's more to it than people saying it's all to do with "Islamaphobia" and racism.

 

[Noodlebear]

Just because you have the "likes" and support from a cliquey group of women, doesn't make anyone right. Anyone who has a different point of viewing here, wow!! God forbid!!

People are disagreeing with the points you make fairly as it is their opinion and this is a debate. If you can't cope with being debated with don't participate. Just don't be childish and rude about the ladies here because not everyone agrees with you.

 

[Paloma123]

Just because you have the "likes" and support from a cliquey group of women, doesn't make anyone right. Anyone who has a different point of viewing here, wow!! God forbid!!

People are disagreeing with the points you make fairly as it is their opinion and this is a debate. If you can't cope with being debated with don't participate. Just don't be childish and rude about the ladies here because not everyone agrees with you.

You're missing the points though, skimming past them and clinging onto religion here.

 

[emyandpotato]

They use a recoverable stun (if one IS used) as opposed to a captive bolt stun.. Aside from all the other issues involved (bear with me) and just focusing on animal welfare for a sec, I think unless you're a hardcore vegan and have literally NO dealing with anything animal derived (milk, honey, silk clothes, leather shoes and car seats/sofas, angora, feathers, cashmere, god knows what else!) then really nobody can say they advovate animal welfare and care about the animals. I do think for a lot of people it's the other issues too, such as the tax and VAT exemptions that come with Halal accreditation through some charity loophole, profits indirectly going to Zatak which in turn funds terrorism and just the simple issue of the meat not being labelled as Halal. It's infiltrated the mainstream without anyone being told, and has taken away a simple basic right of freedom of choice purely to serve a minority (less than 5%). It's just pushed upon you, and for hardcore Christians it's actually against THEIR religion to eat meat which has been sacrificed/killed in the name of a false idol (in this case, Allah). If people are all in favour of halal meat which is a Sharia Law, then in turn you're also agreeing with the Sharia law for crime and offence and having limbs amputated. Where does it end?! Anyway, rant over x

I don't agree with the bit about meat eaters but I see you've sort of retracted that in a later comment so I won't go into that lol. I think the bit in bold was a daft thing to say though. Even people who practice the religion and actively support halal meat don't have to agree with every aspect of Sharia law. That's like saying that all Christians are homophobic or all Christians think that women on their periods are dirty etc. I don't think you could find a single religion that doesn't have some sort of out of date teaching that not everyone these days will necessarily agree with. Times change. You can be religious and still have your own opinion on things within the religion. You can also support aspects of it without being religious.

Exactly! People follow the material dimension of religion, which includes diet, not just because it's the will of God, or whatever, but for so many other reasons. For one thing it is a sense of identity to keep with historic religious traditions, and following the practical aspects of a religion keeps followers focused and connected to their religious goal and focused on morals etc., amongst so many other reasons. So no, because someone eats halal does not mean they agree with all sharia punishments. Like Noddlebear said, it's like suggesting all Christians are homophobic, or, similarly to your comment about sharia, that all Christians believe in the dumb historical punishments set out in the bible, just because they accept the bible's general teachings. Anyway, sharia law is NOT how our media portrays it. There are a few punishments retained from when it was written but actually if you look at them they are much less harsh and exaggerated than how extremists/the media voices them nowadays. Anyway, sharia law isn't pure religion it is politicised religion and therefore not all Muslims accept it as necessary/right by any means.

And Allah is the same god as the Christian god, so hardly a false idol. And the meat isn't really sacrificed, it's just killed in a respectful manner that honours the gift of the food. It's not an offering.

I completely agree with your first paragraph, particularly on Sharia Law. A lot of Muslims do not accept it for it's few barbaric punishments and a lot follow the modernly adapted version of it. As they should, and as everything needs to Sharia Law has moved forward with the times and when you see a woman being stoned for her affair with a married man etc, this isn't the norm and most Muslims don't agree with it. It's just the 'OMG did you see that' version portrayed by the media.

The thing is, the stoning thing isn't even the original law. The original stoning thing was from when execution was what happened to criminals, because this was like the 16th century, but it was a case of a huge boulder being dropped on the head, for a clean execution. It wasn't the barbaric small pebble throwing thing it's portrayed as now. There are a billion other examples too.

Paloma, to the same god thing... Well I'm not religious so obviously don't have beliefs to add to my judgement on it but from my objective view it's the same god, just Muslims interpret the teachings differently. Muslims will actually tell you it's the same God, they just don't accept Jesus as his son. But fair enough if you find that to be idolatry. I can accept that view. The sacrifice thing still stands, though, and everything you said about sharia is absolutely wrong to the point of it being offensive.

 

[Paloma123]

They use a recoverable stun (if one IS used) as opposed to a captive bolt stun.. Aside from all the other issues involved (bear with me) and just focusing on animal welfare for a sec, I think unless you're a hardcore vegan and have literally NO dealing with anything animal derived (milk, honey, silk clothes, leather shoes and car seats/sofas, angora, feathers, cashmere, god knows what else!) then really nobody can say they advovate animal welfare and care about the animals. I do think for a lot of people it's the other issues too, such as the tax and VAT exemptions that come with Halal accreditation through some charity loophole, profits indirectly going to Zatak which in turn funds terrorism and just the simple issue of the meat not being labelled as Halal. It's infiltrated the mainstream without anyone being told, and has taken away a simple basic right of freedom of choice purely to serve a minority (less than 5%). It's just pushed upon you, and for hardcore Christians it's actually against THEIR religion to eat meat which has been sacrificed/killed in the name of a false idol (in this case, Allah). If people are all in favour of halal meat which is a Sharia Law, then in turn you're also agreeing with the Sharia law for crime and offence and having limbs amputated. Where does it end?! Anyway, rant over x

I don't agree with the bit about meat eaters but I see you've sort of retracted that in a later comment so I won't go into that lol. I think the bit in bold was a daft thing to say though. Even people who practice the religion and actively support halal meat don't have to agree with every aspect of Sharia law. That's like saying that all Christians are homophobic or all Christians think that women on their periods are dirty etc. I don't think you could find a single religion that doesn't have some sort of out of date teaching that not everyone these days will necessarily agree with. Times change. You can be religious and still have your own opinion on things within the religion. You can also support aspects of it without being religious.

Exactly! People follow the material dimension of religion, which includes diet, not just because it's the will of God, or whatever, but for so many other reasons. For one thing it is a sense of identity to keep with historic religious traditions, and following the practical aspects of a religion keeps followers focused and connected to their religious goal and focused on morals etc., amongst so many other reasons. So no, because someone eats halal does not mean they agree with all sharia punishments. Like Noddlebear said, it's like suggesting all Christians are homophobic, or, similarly to your comment about sharia, that all Christians believe in the dumb historical punishments set out in the bible, just because they accept the bible's general teachings. Anyway, sharia law is NOT how our media portrays it. There are a few punishments retained from when it was written but actually if you look at them they are much less harsh and exaggerated than how extremists/the media voices them nowadays. Anyway, sharia law isn't pure religion it is politicised religion and therefore not all Muslims accept it as necessary/right by any means.

And Allah is the same god as the Christian god, so hardly a false idol. And the meat isn't really sacrificed, it's just killed in a respectful manner that honours the gift of the food. It's not an offering.

I completely agree with your first paragraph, particularly on Sharia Law. A lot of Muslims do not accept it for it's few barbaric punishments and a lot follow the modernly adapted version of it. As they should, and as everything needs to Sharia Law has moved forward with the times and when you see a woman being stoned for her affair with a married man etc, this isn't the norm and most Muslims don't agree with it. It's just the 'OMG did you see that' version portrayed by the media.

The thing is, the stoning thing isn't even the original law. The original stoning thing was from when execution was what happened to criminals, because this was like the 16th century, but it was a case of a huge boulder being dropped on the head, for a clean execution. It wasn't the barbaric small pebble throwing thing it's portrayed as now. There are a billion other examples too.

Paloma, to the same god thing... Well I'm not religious so obviously don't have beliefs to add to my judgement on it but from my objective view it's the same god, just Muslims interpret the teachings differently. Muslims will actually tell you it's the same God, they just don't accept Jesus as his son. But fair enough if you find that to be idolatry. Whatever. The sacrifice thing still stands, though, and everything you said about sharia is absolutely wrong to the point of it being offensive.

Wtf?! When did I mention stoning ?!

 

[Abigailly]

I clearly stated the fact it was copy and paste as I can't be bothered to argue about religion!

Just because you have the "likes" and support from a cliquey group of women, doesn't make anyone right. Anyone who has a different point of viewing here, wow!! God forbid!!

Well, you eat what you like then. I do not want to be buying halal meat, nor do I want to be unwillingly sold it in the supermarket and restaurants thank you, and I think people who don't want to have a right to be upset. You should research into Zakat and how buying halal indirectly supports and funds terrorism. Not to mention marginalising the work place as only MUSLIMS can carry out the slaughter in halal accredited houses. Only 4.8% of the UK is Muslim, so this is creating division and is unfair. What happens to all the non Muslims jobs? What happened to freedom of choice? Tax and VAT are issues too, it's a whole can of worms, not just people bashing Islam and Muslims. There are hugely valid points, and I would love for you to come and air your views and opinions on sites and with people I know x

What in His name are you talking about?! What 'likes'?! I hardly go back through my comments to see who 'has my back'. I'm perfectly comfortable in my own opinion to not need to check on that kind of thing.

You copied and pasted a huge comment on my religion with, what I'd consider to be, some fairly false assumptions. Why would I not defend it in a debate I was already involved in?

I've noticed your 'don't pick on me attitude' several times. If you don't like people expressing their opinions, don't enter the debate section.

Why aren't you differing with emyandpotato then who says he's not an idol? It's like your choosing your battles here to suit. I didn't come here for a debate and to have an argument on theology actually, I came to point across a point that there's more to it than people saying it's all to do with "Islamaphobia" and racism.

I removed that part from my comment shortly after I'd written it as I decided to not get into that side of the debate as it's something I could get fairly heated about. So knowing my own strengths I picked up on your long comment just to straighten out a few points. I did not choose any battle. I picked up on a comment. Not a person.

As you copied and pasted a comment on Theology. Expect a debate on it. Or don't start what you can't be bothered to finish.

But this is primary school stuff. If you have any more issues with how I choose to comment on a forum please feel free to PM me, rather than spoiling a good debate with lots of interesting points.

 

[emyandpotato]

You didn't, but you mentioned sharia law and one example used continually in our media depicting sharia punishments is stoning, so I used it as an example of a misinterpretation.

 

[Noodlebear]

Just because you have the "likes" and support from a cliquey group of women, doesn't make anyone right. Anyone who has a different point of viewing here, wow!! God forbid!!

People are disagreeing with the points you make fairly as it is their opinion and this is a debate. If you can't cope with being debated with don't participate. Just don't be childish and rude about the ladies here because not everyone agrees with you.

You're missing the points though, skimming past them and clinging onto religion here.

Of course that makes it ok to throw your toys out the pram and start making nasty comments. I thought it was one of your comments that actually brought religion into it?

 

[Paloma123]

I clearly stated the fact it was copy and paste as I can't be bothered to argue about religion!

Just because you have the "likes" and support from a cliquey group of women, doesn't make anyone right. Anyone who has a different point of viewing here, wow!! God forbid!!

Well, you eat what you like then. I do not want to be buying halal meat, nor do I want to be unwillingly sold it in the supermarket and restaurants thank you, and I think people who don't want to have a right to be upset. You should research into Zakat and how buying halal indirectly supports and funds terrorism. Not to mention marginalising the work place as only MUSLIMS can carry out the slaughter in halal accredited houses. Only 4.8% of the UK is Muslim, so this is creating division and is unfair. What happens to all the non Muslims jobs? What happened to freedom of choice? Tax and VAT are issues too, it's a whole can of worms, not just people bashing Islam and Muslims. There are hugely valid points, and I would love for you to come and air your views and opinions on sites and with people I know x

What in His name are you talking about?! What 'likes'?! I hardly go back through my comments to see who 'has my back'. I'm perfectly comfortable in my own opinion to not need to check on that kind of thing.

You copied and pasted a huge comment on my religion with, what I'd consider to be, some fairly false assumptions. Why would I not defend it in a debate I was already involved in?

I've noticed your 'don't pick on me attitude' several times. If you don't like people expressing their opinions, don't enter the debate section.

Why aren't you differing with emyandpotato then who says he's not an idol? It's like your choosing your battles here to suit. I didn't come here for a debate and to have an argument on theology actually, I came to point across a point that there's more to it than people saying it's all to do with "Islamaphobia" and racism.

I removed that part from my comment shortly after I'd written it as I decided to not get into that side of the debate as it's something I could get fairly heated about. So knowing my own strengths I picked up on your long comment just to straighten out a few points. I did not choose any battle. I picked up on a comment. Not a person.

As you copied and pasted a comment on Theology. Expect a debate on it. Or don't start what you can't be bothered to finish.

But this is primary school stuff. If you have any more issues with how I choose to comment on a forum please feel free to PM me, rather than spoiling a good debate with lots of interesting points.

If you read it, there's more to it than Theology but nobody has even noticed that.

 

[Paloma123]

Just because you have the "likes" and support from a cliquey group of women, doesn't make anyone right. Anyone who has a different point of viewing here, wow!! God forbid!!

People are disagreeing with the points you make fairly as it is their opinion and this is a debate. If you can't cope with being debated with don't participate. Just don't be childish and rude about the ladies here because not everyone agrees with you.

You're missing the points though, skimming past them and clinging onto religion here.

Of course that makes it ok to throw your toys out the pram and start making nasty comments. I thought it was one of your comments that actually brought religion into it?

I don't think I've been nasty at all actually, where the hell do you get off saying that?!

 

[Abigailly]

They use a recoverable stun (if one IS used) as opposed to a captive bolt stun.. Aside from all the other issues involved (bear with me) and just focusing on animal welfare for a sec, I think unless you're a hardcore vegan and have literally NO dealing with anything animal derived (milk, honey, silk clothes, leather shoes and car seats/sofas, angora, feathers, cashmere, god knows what else!) then really nobody can say they advovate animal welfare and care about the animals. I do think for a lot of people it's the other issues too, such as the tax and VAT exemptions that come with Halal accreditation through some charity loophole, profits indirectly going to Zatak which in turn funds terrorism and just the simple issue of the meat not being labelled as Halal. It's infiltrated the mainstream without anyone being told, and has taken away a simple basic right of freedom of choice purely to serve a minority (less than 5%). It's just pushed upon you, and for hardcore Christians it's actually against THEIR religion to eat meat which has been sacrificed/killed in the name of a false idol (in this case, Allah). If people are all in favour of halal meat which is a Sharia Law, then in turn you're also agreeing with the Sharia law for crime and offence and having limbs amputated. Where does it end?! Anyway, rant over x

I don't agree with the bit about meat eaters but I see you've sort of retracted that in a later comment so I won't go into that lol. I think the bit in bold was a daft thing to say though. Even people who practice the religion and actively support halal meat don't have to agree with every aspect of Sharia law. That's like saying that all Christians are homophobic or all Christians think that women on their periods are dirty etc. I don't think you could find a single religion that doesn't have some sort of out of date teaching that not everyone these days will necessarily agree with. Times change. You can be religious and still have your own opinion on things within the religion. You can also support aspects of it without being religious.

Exactly! People follow the material dimension of religion, which includes diet, not just because it's the will of God, or whatever, but for so many other reasons. For one thing it is a sense of identity to keep with historic religious traditions, and following the practical aspects of a religion keeps followers focused and connected to their religious goal and focused on morals etc., amongst so many other reasons. So no, because someone eats halal does not mean they agree with all sharia punishments. Like Noddlebear said, it's like suggesting all Christians are homophobic, or, similarly to your comment about sharia, that all Christians believe in the dumb historical punishments set out in the bible, just because they accept the bible's general teachings. Anyway, sharia law is NOT how our media portrays it. There are a few punishments retained from when it was written but actually if you look at them they are much less harsh and exaggerated than how extremists/the media voices them nowadays. Anyway, sharia law isn't pure religion it is politicised religion and therefore not all Muslims accept it as necessary/right by any means.

And Allah is the same god as the Christian god, so hardly a false idol. And the meat isn't really sacrificed, it's just killed in a respectful manner that honours the gift of the food. It's not an offering.

I completely agree with your first paragraph, particularly on Sharia Law. A lot of Muslims do not accept it for it's few barbaric punishments and a lot follow the modernly adapted version of it. As they should, and as everything needs to Sharia Law has moved forward with the times and when you see a woman being stoned for her affair with a married man etc, this isn't the norm and most Muslims don't agree with it. It's just the 'OMG did you see that' version portrayed by the media.

The thing is, the stoning thing isn't even the original law. The original stoning thing was from when execution was what happened to criminals, because this was like the 16th century, but it was a case of a huge boulder being dropped on the head, for a clean execution. It wasn't the barbaric small pebble throwing thing it's portrayed as now. There are a billion other examples too.

.

I didn't know that. Ignorance on my behalf.

 

[emyandpotato]

I fail to see what we're all refusing to acknowledge here? We've discussed with you the issue of idolatry, we've talked about animal cruelty, discussed the consequences of it being halal, and now we're on theology because you mentioned it being offensive to Christians. Please feel free to give a bullet point list of all the things we're missing here and we can discuss them objectively


ETA: Okay that was rude, sorry, but really I don't get what we're all ignoring/why we're all pissing you off so much??

 

[emyandpotato]

They use a recoverable stun (if one IS used) as opposed to a captive bolt stun.. Aside from all the other issues involved (bear with me) and just focusing on animal welfare for a sec, I think unless you're a hardcore vegan and have literally NO dealing with anything animal derived (milk, honey, silk clothes, leather shoes and car seats/sofas, angora, feathers, cashmere, god knows what else!) then really nobody can say they advovate animal welfare and care about the animals. I do think for a lot of people it's the other issues too, such as the tax and VAT exemptions that come with Halal accreditation through some charity loophole, profits indirectly going to Zatak which in turn funds terrorism and just the simple issue of the meat not being labelled as Halal. It's infiltrated the mainstream without anyone being told, and has taken away a simple basic right of freedom of choice purely to serve a minority (less than 5%). It's just pushed upon you, and for hardcore Christians it's actually against THEIR religion to eat meat which has been sacrificed/killed in the name of a false idol (in this case, Allah). If people are all in favour of halal meat which is a Sharia Law, then in turn you're also agreeing with the Sharia law for crime and offence and having limbs amputated. Where does it end?! Anyway, rant over x

I don't agree with the bit about meat eaters but I see you've sort of retracted that in a later comment so I won't go into that lol. I think the bit in bold was a daft thing to say though. Even people who practice the religion and actively support halal meat don't have to agree with every aspect of Sharia law. That's like saying that all Christians are homophobic or all Christians think that women on their periods are dirty etc. I don't think you could find a single religion that doesn't have some sort of out of date teaching that not everyone these days will necessarily agree with. Times change. You can be religious and still have your own opinion on things within the religion. You can also support aspects of it without being religious.

Exactly! People follow the material dimension of religion, which includes diet, not just because it's the will of God, or whatever, but for so many other reasons. For one thing it is a sense of identity to keep with historic religious traditions, and following the practical aspects of a religion keeps followers focused and connected to their religious goal and focused on morals etc., amongst so many other reasons. So no, because someone eats halal does not mean they agree with all sharia punishments. Like Noddlebear said, it's like suggesting all Christians are homophobic, or, similarly to your comment about sharia, that all Christians believe in the dumb historical punishments set out in the bible, just because they accept the bible's general teachings. Anyway, sharia law is NOT how our media portrays it. There are a few punishments retained from when it was written but actually if you look at them they are much less harsh and exaggerated than how extremists/the media voices them nowadays. Anyway, sharia law isn't pure religion it is politicised religion and therefore not all Muslims accept it as necessary/right by any means.

And Allah is the same god as the Christian god, so hardly a false idol. And the meat isn't really sacrificed, it's just killed in a respectful manner that honours the gift of the food. It's not an offering.

I completely agree with your first paragraph, particularly on Sharia Law. A lot of Muslims do not accept it for it's few barbaric punishments and a lot follow the modernly adapted version of it. As they should, and as everything needs to Sharia Law has moved forward with the times and when you see a woman being stoned for her affair with a married man etc, this isn't the norm and most Muslims don't agree with it. It's just the 'OMG did you see that' version portrayed by the media.

The thing is, the stoning thing isn't even the original law. The original stoning thing was from when execution was what happened to criminals, because this was like the 16th century, but it was a case of a huge boulder being dropped on the head, for a clean execution. It wasn't the barbaric small pebble throwing thing it's portrayed as now. There are a billion other examples too.

.

I didn't know that. Ignorance on my behalf.

Don't worry, I didn't know either til recently, and I'm doing a degree in Religious Studies so that's how I found out! Also, the sharia counsel in the UK that the EDL likes to emphasise the existence of.... It's primarily for dealing with Muslim marriage difficulties and divorce

 

[Abigailly]

I clearly stated the fact it was copy and paste as I can't be bothered to argue about religion!

Just because you have the "likes" and support from a cliquey group of women, doesn't make anyone right. Anyone who has a different point of viewing here, wow!! God forbid!!

Well, you eat what you like then. I do not want to be buying halal meat, nor do I want to be unwillingly sold it in the supermarket and restaurants thank you, and I think people who don't want to have a right to be upset. You should research into Zakat and how buying halal indirectly supports and funds terrorism. Not to mention marginalising the work place as only MUSLIMS can carry out the slaughter in halal accredited houses. Only 4.8% of the UK is Muslim, so this is creating division and is unfair. What happens to all the non Muslims jobs? What happened to freedom of choice? Tax and VAT are issues too, it's a whole can of worms, not just people bashing Islam and Muslims. There are hugely valid points, and I would love for you to come and air your views and opinions on sites and with people I know x

What in His name are you talking about?! What 'likes'?! I hardly go back through my comments to see who 'has my back'. I'm perfectly comfortable in my own opinion to not need to check on that kind of thing.

You copied and pasted a huge comment on my religion with, what I'd consider to be, some fairly false assumptions. Why would I not defend it in a debate I was already involved in?

I've noticed your 'don't pick on me attitude' several times. If you don't like people expressing their opinions, don't enter the debate section.

Why aren't you differing with emyandpotato then who says he's not an idol? It's like your choosing your battles here to suit. I didn't come here for a debate and to have an argument on theology actually, I came to point across a point that there's more to it than people saying it's all to do with "Islamaphobia" and racism.

I removed that part from my comment shortly after I'd written it as I decided to not get into that side of the debate as it's something I could get fairly heated about. So knowing my own strengths I picked up on your long comment just to straighten out a few points. I did not choose any battle. I picked up on a comment. Not a person.

As you copied and pasted a comment on Theology. Expect a debate on it. Or don't start what you can't be bothered to finish.

But this is primary school stuff. If you have any more issues with how I choose to comment on a forum please feel free to PM me, rather than spoiling a good debate with lots of interesting points.

If you read it, there's more to it than Theology but nobody has even noticed that.

I noticed you talking abut other religious beliefs. I don't know about them. Therefore it would be an uneducated and ignorant answer I gave. So I replied to the parts I could give a balanced argument to in the hope someone else would pick up on any other points.

 

[Abigailly]

I never knew that Muslims, Christians and Jews all believed in the same god but different follow ups.... Confusing! Definitely another debate, but who's right and who's wrong!?

Some Christians, Muslims and Jews may disagree with me!

Really, as with all Religion, there is no right or wrong. However we all believe we are right and everyone else is wrong or misinformed.

 

[Noodlebear]

Just because you have the "likes" and support from a cliquey group of women, doesn't make anyone right. Anyone who has a different point of viewing here, wow!! God forbid!!

People are disagreeing with the points you make fairly as it is their opinion and this is a debate. If you can't cope with being debated with don't participate. Just don't be childish and rude about the ladies here because not everyone agrees with you.

You're missing the points though, skimming past them and clinging onto religion here.

Of course that makes it ok to throw your toys out the pram and start making nasty comments. I thought it was one of your comments that actually brought religion into it?

I don't think I've been nasty at all actually, where the hell do you get off saying that?!

Uh....I thought you said we were a cliquey group of women. Followed by your 'god forbid' comment about anyone with a different opinion. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and, here in the section dedicated to having debates, people will discuss and disagree. Again, if you don't like it don't comment. I take your comments on board but nothing irritates me more than someone deciding to be juvenile and rude.

 

[Paloma123]

Just because you have the "likes" and support from a cliquey group of women, doesn't make anyone right. Anyone who has a different point of viewing here, wow!! God forbid!!

People are disagreeing with the points you make fairly as it is their opinion and this is a debate. If you can't cope with being debated with don't participate. Just don't be childish and rude about the ladies here because not everyone agrees with you.

You're missing the points though, skimming past them and clinging onto religion here.

Of course that makes it ok to throw your toys out the pram and start making nasty comments. I thought it was one of your comments that actually brought religion into it?

I don't think I've been nasty at all actually, where the hell do you get off saying that?!

Uh....I thought you said we were a cliquey group of women. Followed by your 'god forbid' comment about anyone with a different opinion. Everyne is entitled to an opinion, and here in the section dedicated to having debates, people will discuss and disagree. Again, if you don't like it don't comment. I take your comments on board but nothing irritates me more than someone deciding to be juvenile and rude.

I still stand by the fact it can be very cliquey. Surely we have all witnessed that... Maybe not but know plenty that have and feel the same... Nothing irritates me more than pompous arrogance.

 

[ttc_lolly]

I never knew that Muslims, Christians and Jews all believed in the same god but different follow ups.... Confusing! Definitely another debate, but who's right and who's wrong!?

Some Christians, Muslims and Jews may disagree with me!

Really, as with all Religion, there is no right or wrong. However we all believe we are right and everyone else is wrong or misinformed.

And so is the world we live in this is why I will never get my head around organised religion!

 

[emyandpotato]

Paloma I'm sorry that you feel it is cliquey but really we're all just putting our opinions, we're not ganging up on your views or trying to rally against you! I don't know any of the other posters well so hardly a clique, and I'm pretty sure that on other topics we have all disagreed with each other too!