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[lenorajoy]

cat - It's very sad. Being a mom is hard enough on its own. Unless she's literally abusing her child, no mom should be shamed for doing something differently. There are a million ways to be a mother and not a single one of them is right in every situation. Breastfeeding is by no means easy for some of us, and I have huge respect for anyone who sticks it out, but I have just as much respect for those who choose not to continue or even start out breastfeeding. Just because I want it so badly doesn't mean everyone must, just like not everyone wants children.

I'm sorry you're feeling poorly! How are opks going?


Onerth - I figured one of the purposes must have been increasing milk supply as my pediatrician recommended it and said my OB should be able to prescribe it. I'll have to look into other sources... What kind of dosing did you take?

I took 2 pills a day BUT the max dosage is: 20 mg 4 times per day. You only need to take enough to increase your supply. If 1 pill works, then stay there. Etc. You SHOULD notice a difference in a few days if you still have milk. It takes about a week+ if you have none.

Another great place to ask this would be the adoption or breastfeeding area because Adoptive moms induce lactation for their babies, some have NEVER breastfed or been pregnant.

PS- this will only increase your supply with demand. You wont magically wake up with EEE breasts overflowing with milk. You still need to nurse/pump. After the new supply is established, then you can back off the meds.

Thank you! That gives me an idea of how many I should order at least. I'm trying not to get too excited because I've been there too many times with this and been disappointed, but I'm hopeful this will finally get me where I want to be!

I was rather hoping this would be something I could take temporarily and not something I would have to take daily for the duration of breastfeeding. You should see the pile of pills I take on a daily basis! For someone not on any medication, it's a lot. So many vitamins and supplements to help with lactation! Also - I'm pretty sure I'm already past the point of EEE! Finding nursing bras is quite the problem...

Lenora on the weekends can you pump/nurse round the clock for 24 hours? I've found that to be the best help possible at increasing milk supply for me!

I always try to do that on weekends, and even try to pump after feedings if at all possible. The trouble is I seem to just run out of milk at a certain point and DD gets frustrated because she's still hungry. At least now at her age she's easily distracted and will play happily for a little while, but then she's hungry again 1-2 hours later and at that point there hasn't really been enough time between feedings to really build up much, so the flow becomes really slow even sooner. This is a vicious cycle that continues until at last I have to give in and give her a bottle sometime in the afternoon. If she's having a super hungry day this happens even sooner.

I can see this cycle when pumping at work. At a certain point (usually about 20-30 minutes into pumping, but occasionally sooner) the let downs just stop coming. If I keep pumping eventually I'll get another one, but it takes a good while and brings so little milk. I just try to pump for a good 5-10 minutes after the flow stops to see if I can get another let down. Before I was taking milk thistle/fennel the flow of milk was even slower but lasted longer, so pumping took forever... I'm glad I at least get a faster flow when I get let downs now, but the output isn't much different.

 

[lenorajoy]

Aayla, I'm sorry your body is just being confusing!

 

[OnErth&InHvn]

starting provera tonight

 

[Aayla]

Onerth: why? To induce af early?

AFM: a big load of EWCM today. I was so surprised. When i first checked I thought I finally switched to creamy but it changed later on. Have had cramps and such off and on all day as well. Here's hoping the cold just delayed O.

 

[OnErth&InHvn]

Onerth: why? To induce af early?

AFM: a big load of EWCM today. I was so surprised. When i first checked I thought I finally switched to creamy but it changed later on. Have had cramps and such off and on all day as well. Here's hoping the cold just delayed O.

Because i didnt O and need to get AF otherwise my cycle will literally drag for months.

 

[Aayla]

ah yeah. I thought that would be it. I've had to do that as well.

 

[Aayla]

and how is everyone doing? Tomorrow is Friday!! Bring on the weekend. Oh, I finally got my driver's license. We have a graduated program and I have had my learner's off and on for about 20 years. But I could never afford a car so I didn't think there was much point and we have an excellent public transit system here. But my grandpa sold me his car and on my second try I passed my driver's test. So now I am in the second phase of the program, which means I can drive on my own but I have a few restrictions. But the freedom it has brought me in just the last few days is amazing.

 

[OnErth&InHvn]

and how is everyone doing? Tomorrow is Friday!! Bring on the weekend. Oh, I finally got my driver's license. We have a graduated program and I have had my learner's off and on for about 20 years. But I could never afford a car so I didn't think there was much point and we have an excellent public transit system here. But my grandpa sold me his car and on my second try I passed my driver's test. So now I am in the second phase of the program, which means I can drive on my own but I have a few restrictions. But the freedom it has brought me in just the last few days is amazing.

Here at 15 you can get a learners permit and then at 16 get your license. If you are under 18 you have to take drivers ed classes. I waited to get my license until i was almost 20! I passed on the first try but i was nervous!

We had a manual car one time and i couldnt drive it. We lived 20+ miles from ANY store. I huffed and puffed, stalled and started but did learn!
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weekend plans: My 11yr old is going to Jewish Summer camp on Sunday for 2wks so that will be a little weird. Probably lots of swimming and parks

 

[Aayla]

When I was 16 you could get your L (learner's) and then with 20 hours of driving you could get your full license. My parents never bothered to teach me. The new program was introduced in 1998 when I was 20. But because I had my L on the old system it meant I could go for my N (new driver license) at any time (whereas new drivers have to have their L for at least a year). It took me 20 years but I did it. I failed my first road test but I apparently had developed some bad habits that I had to be more conscious of. Passed no prob the second time. Now I am part of the newer system so I have to have my N for 2 years and then I can go for my full class 5 license.

The camp sounds like fun. I went to a Pentecostal church camp as a kid once. It was fun. Made a lot of friends at the time. I still have some great memories and I was about 11 or 12 when I went I think. She's going to have a great time. Has she been away from you for an extended time before?

AFM: not much going on this weekend. Doing some cross stitching, the weather is supposed to be cloudy with possible rain so not much to do.

 

[OnErth&InHvn]

No, she's never been gone that long. Plus it's 2hrs away.

Took 1st of 5 Provera yesterday. Crampy today. Last time I was on cd100+ and did 10d, I'm hoping by being on cd30ish for 5 days, it will work.

All that sounds like they want some serious drivers Aayla!!

 

[lenorajoy]

So interesting! I'm curious, what are the restrictions for your N license?

Onerth - Fx AF won't keep you waiting this time! And I hope your daughter loves the camp!

I always went to a 4-day youth camp every summer starting in middle school. Some of the best parts of my teen years! Last year was the first year I went to a young adults camp, which was exactly like a Christian youth camp, but for those that have just left high school to probably early 30s or so. We weren't there as attendees really, but DH and I were in the band and it was so much fun! He plays bass and I sing. Hours and hours of music! There's not much that tops that for me!

 

[OnErth&InHvn]

This is a Jewish camp. We have been there for family day but never overnight or anything. I feel like shes underpacked and overpacked!! How they expect anyone to fit 2 weeks worth in 2 bags, i dont know! Everything has to be labeled on top of that too!

 

[Aayla]

I can't have any alcohol, not even the legal limit. No cell phones or even hand free devices. So no blue tooth etc. I can have 1 non family member as a passenger at a time unless I have a driver with me that is over 25 years and has a full license. Family members I can have as many as the car will seat.

 

[OnErth&InHvn]

I can't have any alcohol, not even the legal limit. No cell phones or even hand free devices. So no blue tooth etc. I can have 1 non family member as a passenger at a time unless I have a driver with me that is over 25 years and has a full license. Family members I can have as many as the car will seat.

wow! We have no texting. When you have your permit, you have to have someone with a license over 21 and then anyone else you can fit.

Interesting the rules!!

 

[Aayla]

Most new drivers are in their late teens and I can see why no hands free devices...which is never truky hands free..i can barely switch stations on the radio and drive at the same time right now lol.

 

[Aayla]

Got a temp spike this morning. Fx i see more high remps this weekend.

 

[lilmisscaviar]

Aayla your chart looks really good! Fx that you've ovulated!

 

[Aayla]

Thanks! It was nice to see another higher temp this morning.

 

[Catmumof4]

Hi all how is everyone

 

[Aayla]

FF gave me cross hairs. I'm not sure how reliable the temps are as 2 of them are days I went back to bed after getting up to pee. Although it was a solid 3 hours afterwards. I think I am just afraid to get my hopes up that this worked. I have no way of truly knowing. Just temps I suppose. I did play around and if they drop back to the .20's tomorrow FF takes away my cross hairs.