icsi in 2011?

[Reilley]

Thanks Reilley, its good to know other people know how I feel. Have you been seen at your fertility clinic yet? Or are you still waiting to hear from them?

Sorry about my rant before, feeling a little more chilled now.

hihi we already have been seen at out fertility clinic. Actually my gyn just closed down because he has cancer and he is a good friend, I work with his wife therefore we just have the fertility cilinic now, and that sucks. I am still "shopping" around for a new gyn. We are waiting to get DH second SA done, probably at the end of feb but you know how the appointment stuff works. I want to get started so bad!

 

[Nayla82]

Hi Ladies

I have been doing alot of thinking and I cant just wait around for March till my husband does his 3rd Semen test, than wait for the Urologist to refer us to the ICSI Department (Seems like it will take forever and time will be wasted when i can be doing something now ) So I have booked myself in to see the IVF/ICSI specialist for Monday and I will ask her can I start ICSI Treatment in March if it is possible? I mean can she give me the Drugs/Injections in Feb so by the time my husbands 3rd sample comes in my body is all ready to go for ICSI...

Theres no harm in trying is there Ladies? I Just dont want to see her in March after the Urologist refers us (It isnt maybe we need ICSI its 100% Confirmed) than she may skip a month or so for the drugs and tests on me etc etc. At least this way I have come 6weeks in advance to discuss everything before the Urlogist refers us.

I spoke to my husband and surprisingly he said its a good idea for me to go now show her my cycles and ask what is needed from me?

Cant wait to hear what she says

I got an appointment 1st thing on Monday so it must not be too busy at the Clinic and like I said she might give me a list of things to do, or she might say lets wait for the 3rd sample? No harm at all in going..

Wow things are moving for many of us in here

 

[annie25]

sorry tinks i did not realise you had not got to clinic sorry if i upset you xxxx

nayla its worth a shot hun! see what they say!!!

im still absorbing this weeks appt info in shock time is finally here and im just scared and tired before it's even begun xxxx

 

[GillAwaiting]

Hey guys, it's all go on here at the mo'. You all seem to be feeling what Im feeling right now, frustrated, impatient, fed-up.. What really got hold of me today was anger. I was so angry all day. Woke up that way. Poor DH got it in the neck for making mess in the bathroom shaving his head. Hairs everywhere!! Somedays I wish we had a punching bag in the shed I could let it all out on. Don't know where it came from today. Gotta wait another 4 weeks from Tuesdays for the 2nd SA and the consult apt to make our plan. I know you guys understand that this feels like an eternity.

Is it just me or is every famous lady on the planet pregnant right now? What's in the water in Hollywood these days and for the love of all that's holy, could they please bottle it and sell it, they flog everything else .

is due today, temps been consistently dropping and no hard feeling in gut so I know she is coming. Sure I never stop hoping for a miracle. Do any of us?

Gotta tell you guys about the acupuncture. DH went on Monday night and I went on Tuesday night. DH loved it. Had fantastic experience, was on when he got back. He had freaked out a bit when she started putting the needles in but chilled out on the 2nd go. I enjoyed it the following evening. The needle things really don't hurt at all. However, the actual treatment didnt do anything more relaxing for me than a soak in the bath would have done. Maybe it's done something wonderful on the inside though, who knows. What i did find great about it was talking to the acupuncturist. She knew all the ins and outs of fertility and I was able to speak to her about vitamins and all the other stuff too. She didnt think ICSI was the way to go and recommended iVF but that makes no odds as the fertility clinic didnt give us any other option and given the choice I would rather to ICSI. DH and I will be going to acupuncturist every other week as the finances won't stretch any further. She recommended closer to the ICSI that just I go to get womb all nice and prepared.

Waiting for the call that my BF has had her baby. Any day now. So happy for them but dont know how Im going to pull off going to see her without falling apart. Seriously starting to think about getting the doc to prescribe some low dose valium or something. Only thing that's stopping me is the thought that it might be detrimental to treatment. Off to do the groceries now..on the internet. No more feeling miserable looking at babies in shopping carts! Middle name will be 'hermit' over the next month.

Thanks for listening guys. You folks seem to be the only people that really 'geddit'.

 

[Reilley]

: Seriously starting to think about getting the doc to prescribe some low dose valium or something. Only thing that's stopping me is the thought that it might be detrimental to treatment.'.

hi GillAwaiting, sounds like it is a stressfull time right now. Let me join the club! If you thing about getting something prescribed don´t go to your regular doc, yourgyn knows what will work out with fertility treatment. be careful with herbal stuff too. My DH is a psychiatrist and told me that most gyn have suggestions on what to take to cope better.
Hang in there!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Tinks85]

Hay girls

Annie No you did not upset me hun, really. I am just nad at the hospital. Its ard to keep track of everyones progress isn't it

Nayla, How exciting, really hope you get some answers tomorrow, keep us updated

Reilley, what a nightmare, hope you manage to find a new gyn soon.

I wonder why you accupunturist suggest IVF instead of ICSI. Did she not explain?? I know what you mean about a few weeks seemimg like forever, the waiting is the worst. At least when we start treatment we know we are pro activley doing something.

You might suprise yourself if you go to your BF to meet the new baby. I sucks big time and doesn't seem fare but its good most people dont have to do this. We will get there hun and this year will be a good one, try to be strong You can on here and rant afterwards

Hope everyone has had a good weekend

 

[Nayla82]

Hi Everyone

Gill I hope you feel better soon I really do believe that dealing with infertility has to be one of the most stressful thing in the world! The irony of it all is that the more we stress the more we will hinder our chances of success it really is confusing. Just went for a long walk and has done me good Hang in there Hun

Reiley- I hope you get a gyno soon Hope we all get started soon.

Annie- Bless you hun im sure I will be feeling just the same as you when it actually happens, exhausted and scared because You have waited so long to get to where you are, and its normal to be scared. Please stay strong and healthy I hate to admit it, but 'the real journey' is about to take place

Tinks i definitely agree that it does makes us stronger as a couple I hope you get dates soon, It just consumes my thoughts day in day out. Love your attitude 2011 has to be ours

I think I will go bed at 7pm so Morning gets here quicker im so so excited as its the FIRST time i will be talking to a specialist and I have a list of questions to ask her! Im a women on a mission

Also I POAS and I got 2 huge red which means im Ovulating tonight, usually I would be attacking my husband by now, but the last thing i want to do is i just dont have the strength mentally or physically to be intimate just hope its a phase.

Ok Lovlies I will update you what happens tomorrow. I hope the FS will reassure me

Hang in there everyone!! lets make it our year !! xx

 

[GillAwaiting]

Hay girls

I wonder why you accupunturist suggest IVF instead of ICSI. Did she not explain?? I know what you mean about a few weeks seemimg like forever, the waiting is the worst. At least when we start treatment we know we are pro activley doing something.

Hey Everyone,
Back to normal self today. Turns out the soy isoflavones sent me batty and gave me worst pms EVER! I did them twice and finished with them now as we want to make sure body is ready to go for ICSI. I woke up this morning with the worst cramps. It felt like m/c all over again. Still in pieces and its 5pm but feeling so much more like myself. All the rage was completely gone when I woke up. It might have been a good thing in a way because both DH and I now realise that its possible the IVF drugs might send me batty. We learned quite a bit over the last 2 days!! I had been toying with the idea of not taking so much time off work but I now realise that it's better to be at home rather than in work and going bananas on the inside.

Going up to see my pregnant friend now in an hour. We've been best buddies since we were 4. She had still born baby in Oct '09 and I had m/c in April 2010. Im really happy for her, after all she has been through. You know yourself though, just wish we could get past the first post too. I love her though and when I came back to myself this morning realised that this could be the last time we would hang out before her world changes. So I made some fairy cakes and off I go.

The acupuncturist is part of the zita west network so I found her attitude to ICSI surprising. I've read Zitas massive fertility and IVF bible and she is pro-icsi. The acupuncturist tells me that it will create genetic defects but I dont think she has enough experience or research for me to believe her. I was straight with her and said we would be doing ICSI because Id rather leave one less thing to chance. If we are going this far, then we want to throw everything at this in the hope it works. After all my sister went through, I believe in science.

On another note altogether I just thought Id mention DH. We did an at home sp. test a few months back. The results weren't very clear which gave me the first indication that something might be wrong. He has done another now and while I dont know the results yet, he tells me its looking much better. (strip thing goes all kinds of funny colours over course of an hour). Hopefully the zinc and selenium are doing something good for the last few mths. I will keep you posted on that one folks...


I got my motivation back today and tomorrow going to ring for adoption forms. It takes 2 years to get approved for that here and then at least another 9 mths after that for foreign adoption, so seeing as I can't do anything else just now, well, gonna take that as far as it will go. Even if we do get pregnant and have a baby, I wouldnt rule out adoption for another one in future.

everyone. We are going to be up and down like yo-yos. It's great to have some company.

 

[Tinks85]

Ooooh Good luck Nayla. I will come on tomorrow to check on you hun.

Gill, thats very interesting about Soy, I have been taking it for the past 2 cycles and had horrid mood swings and I have felt like I have a build up of rage, if that makes sense lol. Plus a very very short temper. I also had really bad perod pains. Didn't even think it could be them, just thought it was the stress. Mmmmm I wonder. I am doing the same as you now, not taking them again. The first cycle I was 28 days and this I will be about 53 Want my body to be detoxed for treatment

I am soooo glad you are feeling more like yourself and that you feel better about your BF baby. My BF is due to have her 2nd on 11th March and her first is just 1 year old, I am soooo jealous but not in a nasty way, cant find it in me to think bad of her. It does confuse your emotions though and it is soooooo hard.

Good luck for your DH test and good on you about the adoption forms. Very proactive

 

[annie25]

sometimes guys its hard not to be jealous but it does not make us bad people for feeling that way because we all know we would not wish our problems on anyone else and just think one day when thier babies are not babies anymore we will all have them and they will be jealous!

good luck nayla for tmrw!

xxx

 

[Tinks85]

Well put Annie

 

[Lolly1985]

Hi everyone!

Just wanted to say that everything you are feeling is what everybody out there TTC without success feels. I have absolutely beaten myself up over my feelings towards 2 friends and SIL becoming pregnant. I felt so so jealous, shut down from them and did everything I could to change the subject from babies (hard as I work in a nursery!!) Then had to struggle with the guilt about not being happy for them.

I was seeming to live my life in fear of who might be pregnant, who might be about to try, would she have a baby before me etc etc. After my failed ICSI I was at rock bottom and went to see my hospitals councillor. She is lovely and Tinks if you ever wanted to talk I would recommend her! She has been through IVF and told me not to feel guilty as everything I had told her was totally normal. She said that at one stage she had had a failed treatment and it was xmas. She said that her DH's sisters were both pregnant and that she refused to go for the big family christmas lunch because she felt like she couldn't cope. Made me think my little panicks couldn't be that bad, don't think I could face missing an xmas lunch!! Anyways she said that it was ok to feel what we feel and that it doesn't make us bad people, just human. She really helped me.

I admire you all with all your friends and especially like the way annie put it! Good on you ladies, we will have our time!!

Lolly xxxxxxxx

 

[Nayla82]

Morning Ladies :wave:

Im still shaking hope this will message will make sense! I saw my FS was the first one in the Clinic chatted with her for 1 hour and wow im still in shock!! I start my drugs in 2 weeks and ICSI will take place in March!!!! Yes March!!!

Im waiting now for my period to come in Feb either 2nd or 3rd? than she wants me to pop in for a blood test on the 2nd day of my period (The blood tests will cover everything from ALL my hormones, Rubella, HIV etc etc) I will chat to her about my Blood test results on the 3rd day of my period, That will be the day that she teaches me about the drugs and how to use them, (She told me were taking hormones off you putting hormones in you, you will be feeling very very bloated, I said thats fine!) I will be on the long protocol. She did mention about my small frame and said she will lower the dosage according to my body and my blood test results as everyone is different..

I asked her about the success rates of IVF she said its 40% worldwide. She also did an Ultrasound of my Uterus, and said 'you have a beautiful Uterus with a very thick lining' (I was thinking Ok thanks ) than as i was lying there she said Im going to give you a 60-70% success, your Uterus is ideal for ICSI we just need some good sperms Also she showed me on the screen a huge Follicle and said 'your going to Ovulate today theres a huge one ready to burst, its cd12 so shes correct as I Ovulate days 11,12,13 and I did get the DBLE red lines yesterday)

Im going under fully for ET she said its better for me to be 'in a happy sleep' and it will take no longer than 30mins...

What else did she say?? she also said she will put back 3 eggs, I said Ohhh im a litte worried about Tripplets never did i think she would mention 3 and she said its 1-2% that all 3 will stick? and she said many times they put 3 back in only 1 baby will grow and some cases twins again not very high.. but 3 very very rare... Im thinking shes the dr and she knows best, (again she said depending on the day she will see what she puts back in but 3 is her goal)

I told or i have been worried sick and I have cried for weeks and weeks. She told me she wished she saw me earlier and she will do her best. Told me anything can go wrong and she made me promise her that if it doesnt go to plan 1st time i stay strong and get ready for second ICSI.... She said its all about IMPLANTATION and that is in Gods Hands.

Ohhhh im so excited I just feel like crying!! never did i think I will be here, Annie and Fisher I guess we will all be starting in March!! I so so hope all 3 of us get our BFP!!! My Husbands 30th Birthday is on March 27th and we should know just before if ICSI was successful what a GREAT 30TH Gift I can give him!!

Im so so excited now its unreal!!! Please everyone else hang in there and you never know it will be closer than you think! Never did I think she will say to me 'come next Month we will get you on drugs and your all ready to go in March

Better ring my Husband and tell him the news!!

Have a great week every one xx

 

[annie25]

Welcome lolly - great post nice to be reminded there are councilling services out there if we need them good to not feel alone on this journey! X


Nayla I'm so so happy for you! That's fantastic news your doc told you the same as mine hinted at me however they are keen to get to blast stage transfer at 5 days rather the embryo at 3 because they have to only put one in not two as according to her due to my age there is a 30 to 40 percent chance of twins!

I think you may start before me I will be down regulating from 1st week in march so I don't think I will know a outcome until mid April but strangly I think egg collection may be on dh birthday at the end march!

Can't believe this thread is really starting to get going now and it won't be long before the rest of you join us on the icsi wagon!!

Before you know it there will be a icsi sucsess parenting thread!! X x

 

[fisher14]

Thats great news Nayla hopefully we will be getting our BFP soon

 

[Nayla82]

Thank you so so much ladies!! This is like the happiest I have been in ages! i really forgot what being 'really happy' felt like

I guess all I can do now is wait for my period which should be in 2 weeks than i will get all my medicine and everything should be good to go CD3 the Long protocol. (My period is due i think around the 2nd or 3rd Feb) I have been scratching my head for months what to get my husband for his 30th Birthday Oh this will be the best gift ever!!

Annie she also told me that things will change along the way and she can not pinpoint the days before she puts the egg or eggs back in me? she told me i have to be strong and she will do her best

I dont know why it feels like my heart is going to jump out of my chest?? its been on my mind since my early appointment! I so wish I can tell someone or confide in a friend. I made a promise to my husband that NO1 should know.. But thank god for you girls!!

 

[Tinks85]

Thats fab Nayla, wow there seems to be loads starting soon. Good luck. At least I will have loads of experienced B&B buddies to ask questions when its my turn.

Are you NHS Nayla? Sorry I cant remember. Its brill if so as its seems very quick for NHS.

Thanks Lolly, I will keep i in mind if I ever get an appointment lol.

Going out for tea tonight so that will cheer me up. Got the Monday blues

 

[Reilley]

Whoo hoo nayla....way to go! Babydust to you!

Hope I can join you guys soon: I am so exited for you!

 

[Nayla82]

Thank you so so much ladies

I hope and pray that it all goes to plan im a little nervous now that it will all be happening within two weeks I really hope I can kick start us all off with a BFP

Its weird I thought I would be much more excited?? Yesterday I was on a total high! and today i just feel like im having mini panic attacks?? hard to explain, I think once its all going I should be fine

I keep thinking if i set myself up for failure it will be easier to deal with if ICSI doesnt work?? (im such a wimp) I wish its a plain FACT when you have ICSI = 100% pregnancy I guess I will know soon enough what will be will be i guess

Also I have been reading about Acupuncture, I heard that it prepares and balances your body all ready for the treatment? Again im thinking this is added cost and at the moment I really cant afford it. Tinks we have gone private and the costs are really adding up and we have not even started the treatment

Hope everyone is doing well and we will all get there in the end!

 

[Tinks85]

No wonder you are getting such good treatment hehe. Really glad for you hun. I dont think we will ever be worry free until we are a good few weeks preggers.

Called the hopsital again this morning and the FS has received the letter from the urologist and our referral should go out be the end of the week. I was that releived to hear something possitive and from someone that sounds like the know what they are talking about that when I hung up I started crying I was sat at my desk to make it worse and there are about 50 people in my office was quite discreet though and got myself together pretty quick, bloody emotions