is/was your LO a really bad sleeper? support and advise thread!

[lisa1980]

Wow Firefly, that's great!! Before you know it he'll be running all over the place (hopefully tiring himself out and sttn ) Hopefully he'll start to feel better soon and you can get back on track.

Whybird , welcome. Glad your ideas are working so far. Keep us posted

Well, LO went down to sleep with a bottle at 8.30pm without any fuss and is still asleep now, so we'll see how it goes. I'm going to try to give him a few minutes tonight when he wakes around 2am ish before rushing in to feed him to see if he actually really wants it or if he can settle back to sleep (he's just drunk 12oz before bed, greedy guzzler). As it's Friday OH can help out too

Good luck for tonight ladies. I hope to see some woo-hoo posts tomorrow

 

[kosh]

hi everybody
been a bit down these days, will update tomorrow
haven't read all the posts but to those making progress and lots of to those who had bad nights

 

[lisa1980]

hi everybody
been a bit down these days, will update tomorrow
haven't read all the posts but to those making progress and lots of to those who had bad nights

 

[AngelUK]

Thank you ladies, I am glad I am not alone in this Whoohoo to all of you making progress and I hope for us all this night will be loads better!

kosh. I too have been a lil down lately even though I got so much sleep thanks to OH. It is a downer to dread evenings and nights and I think I am suffering more now than I did when the boys were smaller. Dunno, I should be getting used to it but I am kinda not. (Maybe this is just AF talking mind you, I kinda hope so.) But I must say I love the days with the boys more and more now that they are so much more interactive and fun. So that is something to look forward to every night.

Welcome the why bird. Sounds good what you have planned. I have actually been wondering if we should try giving Dom water at his 3 or 4 feed. He shouldn't need that anymore now. Hm I am just worried he will then wake 30- 40 mins after crying again for food. But hey he does anyway so... lol Anyway, please let us know how tonight went.
xxx

 

[flippityflop]

hi everybody
been a bit down these days, will update tomorrow
haven't read all the posts but to those making progress and lots of to those who had bad nights

 

[firefly15]

hi everybody
been a bit down these days, will update tomorrow
haven't read all the posts but to those making progress and lots of to those who had bad nights

 

[chocolala]

hi everybody
been a bit down these days, will update tomorrow
haven't read all the posts but to those making progress and lots of to those who had bad nights

We're having a shit night here. 3 hours and counting!

She didn't have an afternoon nap. Started getting her off to sleep just after 7pm, she went off quite easily, I was feeling quite smug and hoping I'd cracked the fighting for the time being, then she woke up and just will not go back to sleep, again she is trying everything to stay awake.

It is so soul destroying to put so much effort in, and for what, this to varying degrees every bloody night. The husband says I've got to accept it, yes I have, but it's easy for Him to say when it's not him trying for hours to get her to sleep or him waking up with her god knows how many times during the night.

 

[Jellysecret]

Anyone else having a rough night? Lo sleep is getting worse each night it seems tonight we've had hourly wakings and now she's just been awake over an hour

Do your Lo's cry when they're awake through the night?

Anyone had any experience of taking a dummy away, any advice on how to go about it?

We are off to the Paralympics today so I'm going to be up in just over an hour I'm so tired

 

[the why bird]

We had a rough night too. I guess my first night was a fluke after all.

Put her down at 7 as usual, she was restless and woke a few times before we went to bed. Tried to give her a dream feed at 11pm and she would only take two ounces. She woke at 12.30 and I managed to settle her for another 45 mins but then she was up every 10 -15 mins and needed 5 mins settling each time. She drank a lot of water so was obviously hungry and I felt bad. By about 3 I couldn't settle her at all. My husband managed to get her off to sleep and we decided to try and dream feed once she was settled to get a small feed in without actually 'giving in' to her crying. But she wouldn't have it. Without opening her eyes she spat the nipple out, pushed it away and rolled on her belly. Then continued her waking pattern.

At 4 I gave her two ounces of milk and she's still asleep at 7, so she clearly needed some food.

Did I do the wrong thing? I feel like all I've achieved is making her uncomfortable for a few hours. Ultimately she cried and got milk, so has it all been pointless? Anyone got any advice on what to do when she doesn't have a good late feeding, since that obviously threw her off?

 

[Hanskiz]

We had a rough night too. I guess my first night was a fluke after all.

Put her down at 7 as usual, she was restless and woke a few times before we went to bed. Tried to give her a dream feed at 11pm and she would only take two ounces. She woke at 12.30 and I managed to settle her for another 45 mins but then she was up every 10 -15 mins and needed 5 mins settling each time. She drank a lot of water so was obviously hungry and I felt bad. By about 3 I couldn't settle her at all. My husband managed to get her off to sleep and we decided to try and dream feed once she was settled to get a small feed in without actually 'giving in' to her crying. But she wouldn't have it. Without opening her eyes she spat the nipple out, pushed it away and rolled on her belly. Then continued her waking pattern.

At 4 I gave her two ounces of milk and she's still asleep at 7, so she clearly needed some food.

Did I do the wrong thing? I feel like all I've achieved is making her uncomfortable for a few hours. Ultimately she cried and got milk, so has it all been pointless? Anyone got any advice on what to do when she doesn't have a good late feeding, since that obviously threw her off?

We're also struggling similarly. We had two nights of STTN earlier in the week but we seem to have gone backwards since then... The last few nights she's been waking at 2 ish and we've been doing what you're doing... OH offering water, but taking ages to settle, then waking 40 minutes later and me feeding her.

Last night I fed her straight away at 2, she went straight back to sleep but then woke at 5.30 (she never manages more than 3 hours after a feed). I had to feed her again as she just went mental when OH went in. AND she woke up my big girl.

I'm beyond frustrated. We've been sleep training for almost 2 weeks and after initial progress we've gone backwards. and she's waking earlier and being harder to settle.

Don't know where to go from here???

 

[AngelUK]

So sorry that you guys had a rubbish night too. Ours started well. Dom stopped having to be resettled by 9:30 10ish and we went to bed at 10:30. We newly decided not to dreamfeed them at 11ish but to wait till Dom cries. That was at 00:50 which filled me with hope, even though perversely I had been unable to sleep and had maybe dozed for half an hour or so only After that he woke again at 2:30 and then hourly till he wanted feeding at 4:50. And I got them up at 7:30 as my Sebastian was awake and clearly his nappy was about to give poor lil thing.
I had thought of giving water for the middle of the night/crack of dawn feed but what you ladies report re crying again so soon after for food doesn't fill me with hope. I mean he cries an hour later anyway so I guess that is just going to continue till he gets over it

 

[Lulu1982]

Anyone else having a rough night? Lo sleep is getting worse each night it seems tonight we've had hourly wakings and now she's just been awake over an hour

Do your Lo's cry when they're awake through the night?

Anyone had any experience of taking a dummy away, any advice on how to go about it?

We are off to the Paralympics today so I'm going to be up in just over an hour I'm so tired

IMO the oly way t g about taking away the dummy is cold turkey. Threw all urs in the bin one morning and just Groton with it for naps and then night time. It took two as and she forgot all about it!

Not a very successful night here but I think it was down to teeth. She settled well ... Half an hour and a small tantrum. She woke at 12.50 and we had guests so I'd only had 45 minutes sleep. I fed her as she was wide awake trying to practice crawling. She went back down easily and then woke up every 20 minutes until 4am when she fell back asleep until 6.15 and OH got up with her.

Bit tired this morning!xx

 

[AngelUK]

Lulu how old was she when you took away the dummy? I'm a bit worried doing the same as it settles them sooo quickly. In fact even when I pick them up at night it only sends them to sleep quickly if they also have their dummy.

 

[lisa1980]

to everyone who had bad nights.

Angel - I've never tried to take away the dummy as I still find it useful to settle him quickly, especially in the car or when we're out, and I'm scared to lose it. I did find it much easier once he got to an age where he could find it and put it in himself though. Plus lately he seems to need it less and less so maybe they do eventually get rid of it when they're ready anyway...I'm waiting to see.

I feel bad to write this now in light of the cr@ppy nights everyone has had, but our night was really good.

He went down at 8.30pm and slept until 2am (as usual now it seems). This time OH went in and gave him some water from a beaker. He then put him in his cot and sat next to him shushing and patting, but after a while realised this was just keeping him awake so decided to leave the room. LO moaned for literally 10 seconds when he left and then went back to sleep

He woke again at 6.10am at which point I fed him in our bed to try to prevent him being up for the day. He wasn't actually that hungry really but he fed a bit but then took a while to fall asleep, but then slept until 7.30am when we got up. I wonder now whether if I had left him in the cot he'd have managed to get himself back to sleep easier than in the bed with us

Anyway, a MASSIVE improvement on ever before. No real night feed for the first time and he can obviously now quickly settle himself in the cot if he's left to it. I've realised now that I can easily tell when there's something wrong or something that he needs by the way he cries or moans when I put him down, which is a bit more reassuring as I feel like it's getting easier to understand his signals. I'm expecting some regression at some point but I'm hoping to stick with it as the improvements in less than a week have been significant and the last two nights he's cried for less than 10secs overall!

Seriously to everyone. Bad nights are so tough, emotionally and physically. I hope you all have better nights tonight.

Kosh - thinking of you I hope you're ok.

 

[AngelUK]

lisa that is so wonderful! And please don't feel bad! This is the stuff that gives the rest of us hope! So do please share your successes too ladies

As for the dummy, the only reason I considered taking it away is that I sometimes fear that Dom wakes cause the dummy has fallen out and he might not wake fully if he wasn't missing it. :/ But yeah there are loads of advantages to the dummies, especially with twins, so I think I'll just stick with it.

kosh

 

[Lulu1982]

Lulu how old was she when you took away the dummy? I'm a bit worried doing the same as it settles them sooo quickly. In fact even when I pick them up at night it only sends them to sleep quickly if they also have their dummy.

I took it away at 5 months as she was waking for it 2 or 3 times every hour. she still wouldnt be able to put it in her mouth herself. We only ever used it for sleep and naps but never anywhere else so she was okay about it being tkane away after the first couple of days.x

 

[Claireyb1]

Hi ladies, just wanted to drop by and see how things have been going.I'm still currently in Poland on my family trip for my brothers wedding.
To say I was apprehensive about the trip is an understatement. we had to leave the house for the airport at 6.30am. Had to wake lo at 6am and I thought she might sleep on the way in the car.......nope walked her around the terminal building but it was too noisy. she finally went to sleep on the plane and slept most of the flight so far the trip is ok and sleep hasn't been too awful,touch wood. just need to see how the wedding goes today
Will update.

 

[AngelUK]

Good luck Claireyb1

 

[kosh]

Hi ladies, just wanted to drop by and see how things have been going.I'm still currently in Poland on my family trip for my brothers wedding.
To say I was apprehensive about the trip is an understatement. we had to leave the house for the airport at 6.30am. Had to wake lo at 6am and I thought she might sleep on the way in the car.......nope walked her around the terminal building but it was too noisy. she finally went to sleep on the plane and slept most of the flight so far the trip is ok and sleep hasn't been too awful,touch wood. just need to see how the wedding goes today
Will update.

was thinking about you today!
glad the plane journey went ok
good luck and enjoy the wedding!

 

[lisa1980]

LO down at 8.30pm with bottle. He's been a bit off with his naps today so we'll see how it goes but I'm suspecting an unsettled night.

Hope everyone's evening is going calmly and that the night is sleep-filled